Gts 470 vs hd 6870

so what truly is better?

gtx 470
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more power , heat, money
stronger graphics card
cuda
physics
superior tesselation


hd 6870
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costs less , use way less power , less heat
weaker of the two(from what i know)


Gtx 470 (non-reference) Gigabyte S.O.C edition
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way quiter, very cool, cost only 285$
strongest gtx 470 card

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so in your opinion what would you go with and why?
if you can provide back up or reviews then please do

dont flame me im just asking what you would go with and why?
im curious of others views on the gtx 470 and the hd 6870
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  1. I would go with a 6870 mainly due to the fact that i would expect it to improve for driver updates and the 470 should be where it is by now pretty much, the 6870 is better than the 470 already in some games.

    Mactronix :)
  2. I would have to agree with mactronix here, also, tesselation was greatly improved on the 6xxx series cards from what i understand.
  3. 6870. if it's any weaker than the 470, it's only by a little, and like others have said that difference should be closed by driver updates. but they're so close together that it really doesn't matter. if a 6870 isn't powerful enough to play something, the 470 won't be either. in real life, 5 fps won't make a noticeable practical difference.
  4. The 6870 is going to be a reference type model. The Gigabyte GTX470 Superoverclock is a very special model with customized components and a Windforce II cooler. Comparing the two, and being that the Gigabyte is factory overclocked, the Gigabyte will pull even farther ahead in performance and have much more headroom for overclocking. The Gigabyte's cooler will also be quieter than the 6870.

    In terms of power consumption, the Gigabyte SOC will cost you ~17 Euros more per year to operate with heavy gaming. That equals about $23 per year, gaming 5 days a week 4 hours per day.

    Tesselation was improved for the 6870, but still lags significantly behind the GTX470, making the GTX470 a better choice for future DirectX 11 games. And finally, the GTX470 has PhysX and the 6870 does not. Say what you will about it, but playing games that feature gpu enabled PhysX adds a lot more to the experience.
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-470-soc-review/1
  5. 6870 for power saving reasons
  6. 17seconds said:
    The 6870 is going to be a reference type model. The Gigabyte GTX470 Superoverclock is a very special model with customized components and a Windforce II cooler. Comparing the two, and being that the Gigabyte is factory overclocked, the Gigabyte will pull even farther ahead in performance and have much more headroom for overclocking. The Gigabyte's cooler will also be quieter than the 6870.

    In terms of power consumption, the Gigabyte SOC will cost you ~17 Euros more per year to operate with heavy gaming. That equals about $23 per year, gaming 5 days a week 4 hours per day.

    Tesselation was improved for the 6870, but still lags significantly behind the GTX470, making the GTX470 a better choice for future DirectX 11 games. And finally, the GTX470 has PhysX and the 6870 does not. Say what you will about it, but playing games that feature gpu enabled PhysX adds a lot more to the experience.
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-470-soc-review/1


    All totally irrelevant.

    Mactronix :)
  7. What case do you have? The SOC requires at least 11.5 inches of length.
  8. this isnt me looking for advice just a discussion
  9. Ah, I see. I didn't notice you already had the 470 SOC.
  10. no problem im just curious im starting the the the 470 soc was a bad purchase.
  11. I think it was a fine purchase, as the SOC is clocked at 700MHz (not 607 like the 470s you see in most reviews) yet due to its much cooler operating temperatures and better components, consumes less power than a stock 470. If it would have fit in my case, I would have gotten one too (though MSI's TFII is a close second).
  12. 17seconds said:
    The 6870 is going to be a reference type model. The Gigabyte GTX470 Superoverclock is a very special model with customized components and a Windforce II cooler. Comparing the two, and being that the Gigabyte is factory overclocked, the Gigabyte will pull even farther ahead in performance and have much more headroom for overclocking. The Gigabyte's cooler will also be quieter than the 6870.

    In terms of power consumption, the Gigabyte SOC will cost you ~17 Euros more per year to operate with heavy gaming. That equals about $23 per year, gaming 5 days a week 4 hours per day.

    Tesselation was improved for the 6870, but still lags significantly behind the GTX470, making the GTX470 a better choice for future DirectX 11 games. And finally, the GTX470 has PhysX and the 6870 does not. Say what you will about it, but playing games that feature gpu enabled PhysX adds a lot more to the experience.
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-470-soc-review/1


    Every game they tested with DX11 with maxed out graphics settings, the 6870 outperforms the 470, using the charts from guru3d, which I guess you seem to like, because you use them as a reference. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-crossfirex-review/ They also use a LOT less power. Save you money there too. I wonder where everyone is getting the information that the 470 is doing better than the 6870, because I dont see it.
  13. chumly said:
    Every game they tested with DX11 with maxed out graphics settings, the 6870 outperforms the 470, using the charts from guru3d, which I guess you seem to like, because you use them as a reference. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-crossfirex-review/ They also use a LOT less power. Save you money there too. I wonder where everyone is getting the information that the 470 is doing better than the 6870, because I dont see it.

    I do tend to stick with my good old dependable Guru3d for references, the original home of Rivatuner. It's easier to know where to look when I just refer to one site. I like that all of their reviews are done on the same test setup, so you can compare different articles. They also do a good job with overclocking cards and lately have been going for full overvolted clocks, which they then run through a benchmark.

    The one problem, however, is what you aluded to... they are about the only site that had the 6870 beating the GTX470 consistently. Most other sites had it going back and forth, but overall favoring the 470.

    For the Gigabyte 470 SOC, you can pull up that article and the 6870 article and compare the benchmarks from game to game on the same test setup.

    CODMW2
    SOC: 132 fps
    6870: 117 fps

    BFBC2
    SOC: 50 fps
    6870: 46 fps

    DIRT2
    SOC: 71 fps
    6870: 70 fps

    Far Cry2
    SOC: 79 fps
    6870: 69 fps

    Metro 2033
    SOC: 23 fps
    6870: 22 fps

    3D Mark Vantage GPU score
    SOC: 16,919
    6970: 16,043

    Noise Level Load
    SOC: 39 dB
    6870: 41 dB

    Cost per year to operate 5 days/week, 4 hours/day
    SOC: 50.23 Euros
    6870: 33.73 Euros
    Yep, you will save just over 1 Euro or about $1.50 per month with the 6870.

    Overclocking CODMW2 benchmark
    SOC @ 800mhz: 148 fps (+16 fps)
    6870 @ 954mhz: 122 fps (+5 fps)
  14. I'm going to go against the grain here...

    If you intend to do some serious overclocking, then get the GTX 470.

    A GTX 470 can easily gobble up 200 MHz, if not more if your lucky or have a good non-reference card.

    A 6870 will struggle to get 150MHz, and is very limited by temps (Forget a 150 MHz if the card hits 75c+ apparently.)

    In this instance, the GTX 470 will handily outperform it.

    If you don't overclock much, or at all, then get the 6870 for its lower power consumption and temps, and pretty equal performance stock.
  15. 470 for $230. GG.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500157&cm_re=gtx_470-_-14-500-157-_-Product

    I would totally go for it if I was going with intel...

    Problem is, with an AMD, you're looking at using the Asus nforce 980a.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131636&cm_re=asus_nforce_980a-_-13-131-636-_-Product

    vs.

    The Asrock 870 if you go with a 6870.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157198&cm_re=asrock_870-_-13-157-198-_-Product

    There's another $55 you drop. Plus another $30 or so for the psu. And with the asrock you get usb 3.0 + sata iii which aren't available on any of the 980a's.

    I like that they are making the prices extremely competitive. I don't like that the peripherals to accent the GPU are more expensive all around.
  16. chumly said:
    470 for $230. GG.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500157&cm_re=gtx_470-_-14-500-157-_-Product

    I would totally go for it if I was going with intel...

    Problem is, with an AMD, you're looking at using the Asus nforce 980a.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131636&cm_re=asus_nforce_980a-_-13-131-636-_-Product

    vs.

    The Asrock 870 if you go with a 6870.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157198&cm_re=asrock_870-_-13-157-198-_-Product

    There's another $55 you drop. Plus another $30 or so for the psu. And with the asrock you get usb 3.0 + sata iii which aren't available on any of the 980a's.

    I like that they are making the prices extremely competitive. I don't like that the peripherals to accent the GPU are more expensive all around.

    Unfortunately, this is not a "which video card should I buy" thread. The OP already owns a Gigabyte Superoverclock. They were just looking, I think, for assurance that they made a good choice.
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