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January 9, 2011 2:15:47 AM

Ok, my ancient velocity micro edge pc has died on me, i was told motherboard failure, and while I'm building a new rig i would love to get this back up while saving as many parts as possible. Mainly ill be needing a micro atx main board and cpu and crossfire and sli need not apply as this will rarely play anything other than plants vs. zombies. I would like to get the most for my money but i would like to keep it as cheap as possible. I can salvage the case, psu, 9800gtx card, and the dvd drive and thats most likely it as I have my doubts that the hard drive is still good. Thank you for any and all suggestions.
January 9, 2011 3:24:24 AM

Need a little mo info bro. What model is your micro edge system? I saw 5 different models right off the top with a google search.

Tell us the model and we can suggest the replacement parts...
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January 9, 2011 3:39:24 AM

I'm so sorry for that but i can't find it on this thing anywhere, it's truly a bizarre system. The mainboard is mounted on the left side of the case upside down. I was really just looking to save the case, gpu and psu and replace the rest and was looking for opinions on a good budget micro atx amd board and processor to go with it.
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January 9, 2011 4:01:34 AM

Hmm, I can make suggestions but without knowing what ram and power supply you are using, I could suggest a mobo that requires new ram not compatible with what you have. If thats a low end psu that came in your system, that could be what took out your system in the first place. Who knows.

Look on the back of the case to see if you can find stickers with a service or model #. If not, then take the side door off and search for a model number on the motherboard.

Whats the top end of your budget? I will try not to go to the max but I will also try to get the most performance for your money. I can recommend a low cost as possible option and a higher end option based on your budget so you can choose what you want between the 2 options...

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January 9, 2011 4:22:29 AM

I do know the psu is a 650 watt thermaltake as the original one was knocked out in a storm. Also I have the ram out of it and it says corsair xms3 ddr3, the pc isn't all that old. The mainboard says abit. So i guess if you know of a good matx board that will work with the ddr3 xms ram and which processor would be best for the money? As far as a my top budget I can spend whatever it takes to fix it but I would hate to drop a whole lot of money on it, I just really love the case and I would love to have it in working condition. I apologize again for posting without having any details to go on (total blond moment) and thank you for your patience.
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January 9, 2011 4:40:36 AM

No problem at all.

The thermaltake psu is a mediocre quality unit but it should power the 9800GT no problem and a nice quad core cpu.

I'd go with this:

Motherboard 99.99 + 2.99 shipping ( 79.99 after mail-in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU 99.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can stay with the stock cooler if you don't want to overclock. But, overclocking will be easy on that rig and you can ask people on the forums here to help you when you are ready.

If thats something you are interested in, I would get this cooler so you can go ahead and set it up so when its time to oc, you wont have to take your rig back apart to prep it to oc:

CPU cooler 34.99 + 2.99 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermal paste 9.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So to sum it up, 182.99 after the rebate and no aftermarket cpu cooler or 230.96 after rebate with the aftermarket cooler.

You can go lower in the price if you want by getting a lower grade motherboard with less features and a dual or triple core cpu.

If you want a lower priced option, let me know and I will see what I can do...
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January 9, 2011 4:45:03 AM

The case you are using on that pc may be the only problem with the aftermarket cpu cooler I suggested. If you can, measure from the motherboard to a point where it would appear to be the closest to the removable door but low enough not to touch.

I have one of these coolers and it measures 6" from the motherboard to the top of the cooler so if you don't have at least that much clearance we will need to look for another cooler...
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January 9, 2011 4:55:26 AM

This will save 28.00 on the cost of the motherboard (after the 10.00 rebate):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This will save 20.00 on the cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This will come to 129.99 for the upgrade without the cpu cooler and 177.96 with it.

Hope that helps to give you a wide array of choices based on your needs...
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January 9, 2011 12:31:13 PM

kittysox said:
I'm so sorry for that but i can't find it on this thing anywhere, it's truly a bizarre system. The mainboard is mounted on the left side of the case upside down. I was really just looking to save the case, gpu and psu and replace the rest and was looking for opinions on a good budget micro atx amd board and processor to go with it.

Sounds like a BTX case. You may not be able to reuse the case.

Suggestion if you are building a system with a lot of reused parts - breadboard the system before you install it in the case.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/262730-31-breadboardi...
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January 19, 2011 2:49:03 PM

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January 19, 2011 3:27:41 PM

englandr753 said:

CPU 99.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm curious about the choice of the Athlon II X4 640 vs. the Phenom II X4 820 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... at the same price. The Phenom is OEM and does not include a heat sink so if plans were to use the factory heat sink, it would cost more. OTOH, it has a slightly higher PassMark score at a lower clock frequency. It seems like either provides pretty good bang for the buck.
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January 20, 2011 10:42:22 AM

The main difference is the L3 cache. The Deneb cpus have L3 and the propus cpus don't. The reviews I have read is if you are playing games or doing heavy cpu intensive tasks such as video encoding the L3 cache is a better choice. But from what I have seen its about a 5~10% difference in performance so its not going to be real noticeable.

The 820 is an attractive choice if it fits in your budget to spend more for the cpu cooler. If so, then get the one I suggested above.

I suggested that cpu cooler if oerclocking your cpu is a future plan or maybe a plan to do right from the start. The stock cpu cooler can handle a slight overclock fine but I would prefer an aftermarket solution.

If you don't have an interest in overclocking then ignore my cpu cooler suggestion. I was only bringing that to your attention now as it will be the easiest time to change the cpu cooler while you have it out of your case.


Otherwise, the 640 with the stock heatsink will be the better fit for your budget and will perform nicely...
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January 20, 2011 11:39:25 AM

englandr753 said:
The main difference is the L3 cache. ... Otherwise, the 640 with the stock heatsink will be the better fit for your budget and will perform nicely...

Thanks for the reply.
I did not realize that the 820 did not include the heatsink until after I had ordered it. Since I plan a mild OC, I was already going to get an aftermarket HSF (Cooler Master 212) so the upshot for me is that I don't spend money for an OE HSF that I won't use. Aside from more mundane usage, I do plan to use the system for ripping my DVD collection and S/W development.

thanks,
hank
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