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Hello, Im building a new system for my mum and would appreciate some advice on the parts i have chosen. This will not be used for gaming but for general purposes. With a very small amount of hd video editing. Here are the parts.

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition, Callisto, Dual Core, S AM3, 3.2GHz,

Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H AMD 880G (Socket AM3) microATX DDR3 Motherboard

4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic, DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333)

Samsung SH-S223L/BEBE 22x DVD±R, 8x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, x12 RAM SATA L/scribe

CIT MTX001B, Black, mini-ITX Case with 300W PSU

1TB Samsung HD103SI EcoGreen F2, SATA 3Gb/s, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ

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The only suggestion I would make is to change the hard drive. Any Green label drive does not have good performance. They are ok as secondary drive. Get a drive that has 7200rpm., preferably WD Black.

Another suggestion is to partition the drive. A small partition (100-150GB) for OS and apps, and the rest for personal stuff (doc, photos, videos). That way if windows crap out and need reinstall, the personal files are safe. Better yet is to have 2 hard drives: a small one and a big one.

Also don't forget to create an image of the system after OS, apps, and drivers are installed. If OS fails all you need to do is to restore the image and don't need to reinstall apps and drivers.

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Ok thanks. I have never done the stuff you suggested at the end but i guess i will learn. I will change hard drive to.

What do think of the small case with its own psu, is this a good idea or will i need a better psu.

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you going with the on-board video or thinking of gfx card.?

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I was thinking of onboard gfx. With the possibilty to drop something basic in if required. The system will be an upgrade from a old laptop thats so slow. Im hoping this will be a vastly superior system for day to day stuff. Will onboard be enough to edit tiny amounts of family hd video.

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didn't I help you with a Dell upgrade sometime back.?

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Reply to malmental

the on-board in that gigabyte motherboard is a HD4250, it's not bad for on-board.
i think the best right now or was the best that I am aware of is the HD4290.
so it seems that's close.

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ok thanks, what you think of the case that comes with its own psu 300 watt?

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Just read your second to last post, yes it was you that helped me. Im very grateful the dell is running lovely. Much appreciated.

Reply to dan2222

I usually do not like psu that come with, they seem to be just a throw in and I can't trust that.
is this what your talking about:
http://www.aone.co.uk/ProdInfo.ASP?ProductID=2640

 

if not going with a dedicated gfx then why not try it out but if going to get a gfx then I'd at least verify how good that psu is..

 

and no problem I'm glad the Dell is running good.


Message edited by malmental on 01-09-2011 at 09:51:44 PM
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Reply to malmental

PS.
you never did go back and close that thread did you.?
select best answer and then moderator will close it.
thanx
i think someone else posted on it and I got the notification and was thinking that this needs to be closed.

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Ok cool. As for the thread i didnt realise you have to close them. i will do now.

I am also doing my own build which i told you about a few months ago, which i put off to see what sandy bridge was about. I feel quite glad i waited. Im gonna go with the 2500k, what do you think.

Reply to dan2222

i'm almost finished with an i5-760 build, I didn't want to wait for SB. and when SB does come out I'm not going to jump on it for a while, AMD/Bulldozer either.
I got good pricing and I can make them hit almost as hard..
check it out:

 

build project:
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield (2.8GHz)
EVGA P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
8GB kit (2x4GB) CORSAIR Vengeance DDR3 1600
BFG Technologies BFG GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 (physX)
EVGA 01G-P3-1380-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) SSC+ 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
OCZ Technology 60 GB Vertex 2 Series SATA II
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB 7200 RPM
SAMSUNG BLU-RAY COMBO 8X BLACK BD ROM/DVD WRITER
COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 - 3 x 120mm fans
3.5in card reader / NZXT Sentry-2 5.25in Touch Screen fan controller
Rosewill RV2-600 600-Watt SLI
Windows 7 Ult. x64


Message edited by malmental on 01-09-2011 at 10:26:51 PM
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That looks a very solid build. Im gonna go SB, i can get the unlocked 2500k for 170£ and a decent mobo for 100£ roughly the same price as the 1090t build i was going to do. And from what i have read it will blow that away. The reviews say 5ghz on air is attainable. plus i can then use the card i seem to have become obsessed with. The 460 plus i can add another later.

Reply to dan2222

^
+1
that's sound logic..

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Yeah well thats the plan i hope it works lol. Im not usually one for getting the tech as it comes out. But i come help to feel this is affordable and very good. It seems the only way for me to go but maybe im missing something.

Also i highly rate your advice, so was hoping you could help me with monitor choice. I want 23 - 24 inch 1080p and have seen a few. Should i worry to much about response times. I want a samsung and some are 8 5 or 2 ms im not sure how much i should worry about this.

Reply to dan2222

I wouldn't worry about it..
what's your budget for monitors.?

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im not sure whether to get 120hz or not. Im going into a shop to try out 3d vision this week. If its a 120 hz monitor then i will spend 300£ if just a normal 1080p will spend up to 200£

Reply to dan2222

again that's logical.
3D will get you hooked.!

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Lol thats what im hoping, i think 3d is something to have. Even though i have not experienced it.

Reply to dan2222

have you ever gamed using a phys-x set-up.?
the extra detail in the graphics is sick....
if I had 3D i might not ever venture outside again.

 

back to the thread for a moment.
does your mum really need a 880G motherboard that's kinda high powered for basic computer usage.?
and get rid of the eco drive HDD crap.
get a good Samsung Spinpoint F3 instead.
i can see a good board for the video editing part however..


Message edited by malmental on 01-10-2011 at 01:34:35 AM
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Reply to malmental

For video editing more cores will pay off. I'd look at a 4 core Athlon over the 2 core Phenom. Probably the same price too.

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No never used any good gaming rig, only gamed on xbox 360 and this old dell with far cry 1. So im expecting alot. No my mum dont really need a good board i just dont know what else to get. And i will change hard drive. And im looking forward to 3d, i used to pay 30£ for sega master system games, oh how time has moved on.

Reply to dan2222

dan2222 - I realized the better processor for mum is an athlon II x3 440 (3.0GHz)..
with that chip you will have a little future proofing and multi-tasking abilities..


Message edited by malmental on 01-10-2011 at 01:40:31 AM
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Its a Phenom x2.

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Oh sorry i just see what you mean, get the x3 instead.

Reply to dan2222

yes.. and it probably is the same price if not cheaper..

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Wow very hard to find, but found one for 70£ will try to get this if you say is better. Thanks.

Reply to dan2222

no problem, I honestly think that it will be better than the 2-core phenom ii.
who cares about the L3 cache if not gaming and the phenom ii x2 is nothing but a gaming only chip.
that third core will come in handy when video editing and multi-tasking.

 

just like the Dell, I swear that it would work and I was adamant about it.. LOL


Message edited by malmental on 01-10-2011 at 01:52:59 AM
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Lol, that you was and you was right so i trust your expertise.

Reply to dan2222

and that HD4250 chipset is cool to start out on, that might save a couple of dollars for you.
does that case require low-profile or standard height gfx cards.?

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That im not sure, i just picked it cause it looks cute and will take up minimal space. I had to convince her to stop buying a new laptop for 400£ every two years. So im trying to make it as unintrusive as possible.

Reply to dan2222

a small modern case but big enough for full size hardware, I know the feeling..
what's the budget for the case.?
I have a few in mind becuase like I said, I've been there.

 

http://www.silverstonetek.com/prod [...] 3&area=usa
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/sil [...] se-w-o-psu
http://skinflint.co.uk/a303891.html


Message edited by malmental on 01-10-2011 at 02:20:16 AM
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Thats a bit too expensive, Thats 80£ the other is 28£. I need as cheap as poss.

Reply to dan2222

understood.

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Ok i just realised that the cpu is a athlon and not a phenom. If thats the case i could afford a AMD Athlon II X4 640, Propus, Quad Core, S AM3, 3GHz, 2MB Total Cache, HT 2000MHz, 95W, Retail, What do you think. 78£. Only 8£ pounds more.

Reply to dan2222

well, that would be future proofing... lol
and the athlon ii x3 7/10 times could unlock to the quad core - FYI.
but for only a few bucks more huh.?
that's actually tough for me, I just don't see the need for a quad but it would be nice to have... damn. i just don't know.
if mum was a gamer then I'd without a doubt say yes..

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Message edited by malmental on 01-10-2011 at 02:37:15 AM
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Lol, then for 8£ pounds more i get the quad, as long as you say the athlon x4 is better than the phenom x2 for her needs.

Reply to dan2222

yes I do agree with more than the dual core, I'll give you that.
so if you want the quad for a few more pounds then go for it..

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Cool thats decided, thanks for help once again. Now im gonna get some sleep, its 2am here. Will speak to you soon i hope. Take care and thanks.

Reply to dan2222

9pm here FL-US an I have to go walk the dogs at least .5 miles before I can rest.
cheers..


Message edited by malmental on 01-10-2011 at 02:49:51 AM
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Lol good old dogs. Speak soon.

Reply to dan2222

malmental wrote :

well, that would be future proofing... lol
and the athlon ii x3 7/10 times could unlock to the quad core - FYI.
but for only a few bucks more huh.?
that's actually tough for me, I just don't see the need for a quad but it would be nice to have... damn. i just don't know.
if mum was a gamer then I'd without a doubt say yes..



"With a very small amount of hd video
editing"

The extra core will help mum with hd video editing.

------------------------------ i5-2500k / H70 / MSI P67-GD80 / Antec 1200 / 8 GB DD3-1600 C9 / 2x40 GB Intel SSDs / 2.25 Misc TB HDDs / amBX Professional Lighting and Sound / Seasonic X750 80+ Gold / Diamond 5970 + Sapphire 5870 2GB DDR5 Eyefinity6 5760x1080
Reply to cmcghee358

already been decided..

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Hello how are you. I need to ask for your wisdom once again. As i told you im building a 2500k rig. problem is i dont knw how to choose a motherboard or memory. Can you advise me hoe i should choose.

Reply to dan2222

a motherboard and memory for an i5-2500K.?
i can help with that.
questions:
going to run dual gfx cards if not then in future.?
what size mATX or ATX.?
price range.?

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Will run one gigabyte 460 soc for now and another at some point. Not sure about matx or atx as i dont know the difference, is it size. If so i will buy whats the best if it gives an advantage. As for budget i dont want to save money at the expense of performance but dont want to pay loads extra just for minimal gain. If that makes sense.

Reply to dan2222

understand that...

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Reply to malmental

for this i5-SB build, what all do you need, case too or just motherboard and RAM.?

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