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January 10, 2011 1:39:43 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: This month


Budget Range: $900


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming


Parts Not Required: Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard, Speakers, Case


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.ca (or any other N.A. or Canadian websites)


Country of Origin: Canada


Parts Preferences: not to sure but I've heard good things about NVIDIA video cards and Intel CPU's but I'm not set in stone ability to upgrade in future is nice


Overclocking: Maybe(uses?)


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe(what exactly is this?)

Additional Comments: I want to be able to run new games on high settings and games coming out in at least the next couple years with room to upgrade in the future.

I currently have a computer probably about 5 or 6 years old now but I'm willing to take parts such as dvd burner/writer and disc drives and whatever I can from it

Also I have never built a computer before so I'm pretty new to all of this

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January 10, 2011 2:12:56 AM

What's your resolution (monitor) ?

Here's a decent single card set up that won't break the bank. One good card for now, and when it becomes obsolete...ebay it and pick up something bigger and badder.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $59.99
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $69.99
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $29.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $5.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $229.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $129.99
MSI P67A-C43 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $54.99
16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $19.99
LG Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $53.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $154.99 $30.00 USD mail-in rebate
ZOTAC ZT-40404-10P SYNERGY GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $109.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total: $919.89 CDN *not including shipping, taxes...etc..
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January 10, 2011 2:54:57 AM

Hey thanks alot for the speedy reply :)  just a couple questions I have a case and I forgot to mention I won't be needing an OS and I'm hoping to use maybe the HDD and dvd burner form my current computer.

So with those changes should I add the extra money to a more powerful video card like the Radeon HD 6950 or the GeForce GTX 570 or are those two overkill with the type of system im looking for?

Will the 550W power supply be sufficient I found the corsair 750W one for 109.99 worth the upgrade not worth it?

and for the processor is the i5-2500 going to be suitable for the next bit is the i7-950 much better or will performance stay pretty much the same between the two?

sorry for the added questions this is just my first real computer buy on my own so I'm just trying to be as thorough with everything as possible before I jump back into the gaming seat

oh and I keep hearing about SSD not sure what this is exactly (new more improved form of a HDD?) are these necessary/useful
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January 10, 2011 3:35:33 AM

Ankh16 said:
Hey thanks alot for the speedy reply :)  just a couple questions I have a case and I forgot to mention I won't be needing an OS and I'm hoping to use maybe the HDD and dvd burner form my current computer.

So with those changes should I add the extra money to a more powerful video card like the Radeon HD 6950 or the GeForce GTX 570 or are those two overkill with the type of system im looking for?

Will the 550W power supply be sufficient I found the corsair 750W one for 109.99 worth the upgrade not worth it?

and for the processor is the i5-2500 going to be suitable for the next bit is the i7-950 much better or will performance stay pretty much the same between the two?

sorry for the added questions this is just my first real computer buy on my own so I'm just trying to be as thorough with everything as possible before I jump back into the gaming seat

oh and I keep hearing about SSD not sure what this is exactly (new more improved form of a HDD?) are these necessary/useful


What brand and model # is your current 550w psu ? Can you post a link to it please. That way I can give you an honest answer. The 2500k is more than enough, and as far as SSD's go... they are great if you want to load up your o/s in half the time as a standard h/d...otherwise they aren't a big deal. I mean what's a few seconds when it comes to waiting for Windows to load up ? Iv'e never felt the need for one myself.

Last but not least.... What's your screen (monitor) resolution ?
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January 10, 2011 3:51:23 AM

Sorry I don't know what my current PSU supply is I was just referencing the 550W $69 one you mentioned in your post and asking if that would be enough power especially if I reroute the added funds from the case and OS to a more powerful graphics card or if I should go for the one I posted

would one of those graphics cards be a good place to put my additional money or should it go someplace else?

currently my resolution is 1280 X 1024

Ya I definitely have no need for the SSD then thanks
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January 10, 2011 4:09:57 AM

Ankh16 said:
Sorry I don't know what my current PSU supply is I was just referencing the 550W $69 one you mentioned in your post and asking if that would be enough power especially if I reroute the added funds from the case and OS to a more powerful graphics card or if I should go for the one I posted

would one of those graphics cards be a good place to put my additional money or should it go someplace else?

currently my resolution is 1280 X 1024

Ya I definitely have no need for the SSD then thanks


With your resolution...that vid card I posted will run any game on high settings. When you get a chance...check out your psu and if it's good enough to run a high end card, you can forgo getting another one and put that into getting something like a gtx 460 1gb. But as it is, that build is pretty solid imo.
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January 10, 2011 5:01:48 AM

Ok thank you again for all the help just a couple more questions (sorry its my biggest purchase in a while I just want to get everything right)

Since I already have a DVD burner, Case, and OS I can knock about $200 off of that overall price I was just wondering what parts should be upgraded with that extra $200?

I will probably end up getting a new PSU anyways so either the one you mentioned or I was looking at this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

is the extra power needed for higher videocards?

with the extra $200 I was looking at upgrading the video card to:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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or should I use your suggested GPU and go with a different kind of upgrade maybe 2 x 4gbs of ram instead of 2 x 2gbs? or an i7-950 or an ASUS motherboard ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )? any suggestions on where the extra money should go would be really helpful thanks :D 

oh and will that motherboard be able to run two video cards (if I later on need a second)
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January 10, 2011 8:04:37 AM

anyone have any ideas/input on that last message?
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January 10, 2011 8:08:04 AM

Ankh16 said:
Ok thank you again for all the help just a couple more questions (sorry its my biggest purchase in a while I just want to get everything right)

Since I already have a DVD burner, Case, and OS I can knock about $200 off of that overall price I was just wondering what parts should be upgraded with that extra $200?

I will probably end up getting a new PSU anyways so either the one you mentioned or I was looking at this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

is the extra power needed for higher videocards?

with the extra $200 I was looking at upgrading the video card to:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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or should I use your suggested GPU and go with a different kind of upgrade maybe 2 x 4gbs of ram instead of 2 x 2gbs? or an i7-950 or an ASUS motherboard ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )? any suggestions on where the extra money should go would be really helpful thanks :D 

oh and will that motherboard be able to run two video cards (if I later on need a second)


4 gigs of RAM is plenty. The MSI mobo I posted is a single card board. If you want to run dual vid cards at a later date, then you want a 1155 board that runs dual cards at 8x & 8x. This AsRock down below does that...so does the Asus board you posted.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $159.99
ASRock P67 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... Combo Discount: -$29.99 Combo Price: $439.99 (Before $20.00
USD Mail-In Rebate )
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

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January 10, 2011 8:18:21 AM

If you are wanting to play games at high quality, I would strongly suggest using the extra funds to get a 22-24 inch monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution, it is HD res and makes thigns much pretier - seems a shame to buy a powerful machine and settle for a lower res. A GTX460 can handle many games on 1920 x 1080 at high settings, but if you do have spare funds after buying a monitor to upgrade to something more (GTX560, or Radeon 6870) then treat yourself to that too. At your current resolution even the GTX460 is overkill, so paying for a better card instead is redundant

I personally also tend to stick with a 650W PSU at least to provide power for any upgrades I may make, or even reuse in a new buildin the future
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January 10, 2011 8:36:47 AM

Thanks again I think I have enough info to put this together now I appreciate all the help why_me and I think I'll go for the motherboard you suggest that can run dual just in case it becomes necessary in in future upgrades

asteldian I do have an nice 26 inch insignia HD tv which can be used as a monitor which I will probably be hooking up once I have this new computer up and running so I will probably go for the slightly upgraded video card and hopefully be putting all the parts to good use :D 

I'll probably post all the parts just to get a final check and then I'm sure you'll see me around the forums trying to figure out how to put everything together Thanks again!
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January 10, 2011 5:25:18 PM

Be aware that if you are planning to use your current OS as installed on your current HD, that it probably won't work without a fresh install. As your OS is currently installed, it is NOT configured for a new motherboard and CPU, and so would probably not boot up.
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January 11, 2011 3:33:07 AM

Thanks clarkjd ya I plan to wipe this HD and start completely fresh on my new computer and reinstall the OS so I think I pretty much have everything I want figured out I'm hopefully going to order within the next week and start assembly I just have a few last minute questions and was hoping you guys wouldn't mind looking over the parts I'm using to make sure its all going to work properly and nothing is to overkilled or underdone

I plan to switch my monitor to a 26 inch insignia flat screen tv that I have in my bedroom with 720p HD(I believe thats what it is) to increase my resolution and take advantage of the videocard

I'll be using my current fan, case, HD and cd drive unless there is a good reason to upgrade them (do newer cd drives make games run faster or do newer HD's have improvments in computer speed I should be aware of? mine are about 5 or 6 years old probably any advice would be appreciated)

and then these are the parts I will be getting are they all compatible any revisions I should make?

MOBO - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CPU - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

PSU - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAM - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

GPU I would like to get either

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

or

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

I've heard that the geforce 570 is more powerful or better yet the radeon 6950 has 2GB memory

I went for one of those video cards because I will be increasing my resolution and I don't want to be held back in the future because I opted for a lesser video card now and then have to by a new video card just to increase resolution and I am hoping to be able to run games like crysis 2 and other future games on high graphics settings

however if the consensus is still that these cards are a large overkill I may downsize to the recomended GTX 560

thoughts, opinions, on the graphics cards older HDD how well this will run games? any and all feedback is appreciated thanks again to everyone for helping me out
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January 11, 2011 5:22:53 AM

anybody out there? any thoughts maybe im being to impatient I'm just eager to get this build finalized so I can get onto the all important job of shirking my life duties and gaming ridiculous amounts
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January 11, 2011 7:52:13 AM

At 5 or 6 years old it may be best to get a new HDD, if getting a new one I would go with the Samsung Spinpoint F3 - $54.99 + shipping
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

You may find it available elsewhere without the large shipping cost. It is one of the best performance/price HDDs out there. It is not essential but you may find loading times in games are slowed by your current HDD
I probably would not worry about a new DVD drive, though they are only about $20 if you do want one.

At 1920 x 1080 I would not say your card choices are overkill, they are powerful and will handle most things for a good long while. Only at a lower res would I consider them unnecessary. I use a 5850 at 1920 x 1080 and it handles most of what I do very well, but if I could afford more power I would have it.

Between the two cards you are choosing from, it comes down to preference, despite having an AMD 5850, I have always been partial to Nvidia, in general I feel they tend to perform better in more games overall (this is not based on any hard evidence, merely my own personal view) and so I would actually prefer the GTX 570, on the other hand, it is $50 more, so depending on how much extra performance it does offer, the 6950 may well be a better choice for value - I am more of a price/performance man than a Nvidia or AMD fan. I wouldn't worry too much about the difference in card memory, you won't notice much benefit of 2gb over 1gb unless multi screen set up I think
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January 11, 2011 9:39:37 PM

thanks asteldian thats pretty much all I needed to know I think I'll probably go for the GTX 570 I've read fairly good things about it it seems to run a bit cooler and quieter to which is nice since I'm reusing my old fan I don't want my system running to hot I actually got paid a bit more then expected so I should have the extra 50 for the HDD upgrade so I'll probably be going with that to

nothingman that does actually look like a really nice first time build but I think I will be sticking with mine just because I don't really need a couple of the items on there and this way I can get a more powerful machine

thank you all for the comments its been a major help I would probably still be lost as to what I was getting if not for your assistance
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January 11, 2011 9:40:39 PM

Best answer selected by Ankh16.
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