thanx Maziar for the info. this laptop is only 699us at 3 retailers and circuit city does not exist in my state (Texas) so i wont have to pay any tax. ebay is selling the 1920X1200 version with the gtx 260m for 300 to 400 more. is the extra cost really worth that? also considering the warranty coverage. new vs used seems like a no brainer. is there any other systems i should consider that may be a better purchase for me. the last time i purchased a laptop new was 2005 from best buy and it had ati 64mb video memory which allowed oblivion to be played at low medium settings. want to play games like crysis and dawn of war 2 starcraft 2 call of duty black ops GRAW 2 and 1 halo 2 and World of warcraft to name a few. any suggestions?