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January 11, 2011 1:28:44 AM

Hi, I'm planning on buying parts and building a new system in the next month or so and I was just trying to get some input for the parts I've chosen. This is my very first build.

Approximate Purchase Date: Mid-February (I hope)

Budget Range:$1000-$1200

System Usage from Most to Least Important:This will be a family computer but I will be using it predominantly for gaming (Starcraft 2, SWTOR, etc.), while my wife will be browsing the internet.

Parts Not Required: I'm just going to pick up a keyboard and speakers from a local store. However, I am looking to invest in a headset so if you could suggest a reliable and reasonably priced one.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I've been going between Newegg and TigerDirect but Newegg seems to generally have more selection and better pricing.

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: No preference

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution:1920x1080

Additional Comments: I'll put in supplemental notes as to my thought process as I list the parts. Here they are so far...

Processor: Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz =$209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

*Note-as I stated I will not be overclocking so I decided to forgo the 2500K to save a few bucks

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67=$159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB Video Card=$159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

*Note-The Motherboard and GPU are a combo deal so I save $20.

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)=$54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

*Note-I just saw this set tonight so I decided to go with it despite the lack of reviews since I was going to go with the regular Ripjaws anyway.

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive=$39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply=$69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

*Note-I chose this one since it was inexpensive and modular. I have read numerous horror stories and such about PSUs from this site and others so I have been hesitant in this category. However I have seen a few benchmarking sites use this PSU or its 700W big brother so I thought it would be reliable.

CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler=$52.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

*Note-Since I'm not going to be overclocking do I really need an after market heatsink or will the generic Intel one suffice? If I could forgo this one I could redistribute the funds toward the 1GB GTX 460, a larger hard drive, or that headset I mentioned. I will also need a socket adapter which is an additional $4.99 if I get this heatsink.

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Scout=$89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM=$19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total price w/shipping=$1,112.30 (price of OS is included)
Less Rebates=$1,067.30

Well that's it, I apologize for the exhaustive detail but that's just a personal foible. Thank you in advance for your advice.

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January 12, 2011 8:03:49 PM

OK it all looks fine. I would recommend the 1GB version of the video card for your rez. I would also not buy the cpu cooler if your not going to OC. If you were still wanting a cpu cooler I would look at the CM Hyper 212. It is less expensive and very close in performance to the more expensive one you were looking at. I would also consider the Samsung version F3 HDD in place of the WD, or the WD 640 black. Finally, I personally hated the storm scout case. A lot of people like it, but I actually pulled my rig apart and sold it on CL for half of what I paid. It was a series of things, one being the case was so narrow that my aftermarket (CM Hyper 212) cooler almost touched the plexi glass side panel and prevented me from installing a fan in the top position of that panel. Second, I was not able to install a filter on the fan I installed on the lower position of the panel because of the curve of the plexi glass. Third, I found the front intake fan filter difficult to remove and clean. Finally, I broke a tab on the expansion card holder. Have you looked at Antec 300, CM 690II, basic or advance, or the CM HAF series, 912 or 922. 932 is a full tower and very large.
Otherwise, good build, seems like cpu and MB go together, RAM is enough, although with prices so low, maybe 3X2gigs would be a good investment??
Samsung drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
WD Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cases
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

January 12, 2011 8:38:17 PM

since you aren't overclocking, stick with the included intel cooler. It will do the job quite adequately.

the 1 GB 460 is a great card, just get the real 460 and not the 460 SE (which is really a 455)
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January 12, 2011 9:15:21 PM

Nononnnonooooo.
Don't listen to this '1 GB GTX 460' nonsense - i was looking at this card (both versions) for over a month (during my exams) and the real difference is 1-4% across all resolutions - around 2.5% on 1080P. So, basically 33 fps instead of 34, for around $50 more... the fact is $50 more on a $140 card for 2-3% more performance (on all benchmarks really) is terrible price/performance. 1 more frame per ~40 frames!

I'd also recommend a smaller PSU for the GTX 460 768mb and a worse mobo as you aren't ocing/sliing...
I understand you have combo but... theres a 768mb GTX 460 for $125 AR with a bigger factory overclock (since u arent ocing, its better idea huh).

BTW, also dont recommend tri channel ram .. i dont THINK SB supports it hmmm?
January 12, 2011 10:39:22 PM

I still recommend the 1GB version for your res. Good call out tho on the ram, I guess. I didnt know SB didnt support tri channel so thanks for that info, I will check it out.
January 12, 2011 10:44:40 PM

Yep, The SB does not currently support tri channel. Good call out Vibhas.
January 12, 2011 10:59:05 PM

Great, thanks for all the input! I guess since I'll be scrapping the CPU cooler I will invest in the 1GB 460. The performance increase may be minimal but the extra memory will undoubtedly help in the future.
I was planning on the HAF 932 initially but when I saw it in a store it was just too big and a little too expensive. I will check out the HAF 922 though, I didn't notice that one earlier. Is there any particular reason you recommend Samsung over WD, g048989h?
January 13, 2011 12:51:38 AM

samsung is a little faster. But right now, I'd suggest the Seagate 7200.12, which is $5 cheaper right now ($64.99 vs $69.99)
January 13, 2011 1:52:11 PM

Okay, and would speed still hold true if I went to a bigger capacity, 750GB or 1TB?
January 13, 2011 9:31:45 PM

Happy to hear youre going with 1GB. I don't know all the details the other guy was saying to be exactly right. It seems like in the benchmarks the 1GB pulls away as the rez goes up. I could be overstating the improvement between 768 and 1GB, but I doubt you'll regret getting more Vram. Good luck and happy building
January 13, 2011 11:08:52 PM

Yeah more memory never hurt anybody, especially for the prices now. I just saw that deal on the 1TB, I'm definitely going to jump on that right now. Thanks for all of your great help everyone!
January 14, 2011 5:13:51 AM

Vasai said:
Great, thanks for all the input! I guess since I'll be scrapping the CPU cooler I will invest in the 1GB 460. The performance increase may be minimal but the extra memory will undoubtedly help in the future.
I was planning on the HAF 932 initially but when I saw it in a store it was just too big and a little too expensive. I will check out the HAF 922 though, I didn't notice that one earlier. Is there any particular reason you recommend Samsung over WD, g048989h?


http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

It certainly will not sir!
I've looked at very recent games such as Metro 2033 and seriously, 1-5% is rather silly for $40+ more IMHO.

Its your cash, but honestly, you could get 2 smaller versions for just $80 more than a single 1 GB. That would increase your performance by 90% more than a single GTX 460 1GB over ALL resolutions.

Sum of fps @ 1200P (Where vid ram counts even more) for all games tomshardware benchmarks -

Best GTX 460 - 1gb gives 662.80FPS, best GTX 460 - 768mb gives 626.2

Thats, what 5.5% difference at that resolution - from toms.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2010-gaming-graphics...

Other sites give lower difference (As quoted above) but well, 5.5% is the difference from toms point of view, at a resolution above and beyond what you are using - as in it makes even less difference that that.
January 14, 2011 10:59:42 PM

5.5% may not seem like much but it can mean the difference between playable and unplayable. Plus you also get an increase in memory bandwidth as well. Trust me, I've had this argument with myself many times. It may be in vain if my budget projections fall short, in which case I will indeed go with the 768mb version. Thanks for your input!
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