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From GTX260 216 cores to HD6870 YES???

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November 11, 2010 3:20:06 PM

Hi all!

I would like to change because the GTX260 graphics card is running out at high resolutions and AA enabled but i don't know if it is good time to change or if it is really worth. Thanks! ;) 
a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 3:24:05 PM

If you can wait, the 69xx series is supposed to come out at the end of this, hopefully. Wait until than and you'll have more options and it might push some other prices down too.
a c 169 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 4:01:14 PM

Waiting is up to you but if you want to wait,you can't buy anything,because there is always something new around the corner.
Anyway,HD 6870 is significantly faster than GTX 260,so yes its a worthy upgrade.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 4:06:56 PM

The HD6870 is roughly 50% faster than your current card.
a c 646 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 4:39:03 PM

The 6900 series has been delayed until mid-December, and would cost significantly more than a 6870. If you play any games that feature PhysX, you would lose that functionality by switching from Nvidia to AMD.
November 11, 2010 6:10:33 PM

Ok thanks all!

I don't wanna wait, cause the caymans gonna cost much more and i can't spend more than 300$.

But another doubt is the HD6870-GTX470 Versus, i like the GTX470, cause nvidia always have better drivers, and the performance is slighty better but the heat and noise is terrible... what do u think?
November 11, 2010 6:14:35 PM

another thing i that i had always heard that the ATI drivers have always problems is that true?
a c 273 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 6:16:05 PM

samplerico said:
another thing i that i had always heard that the ATI drivers have always problems is that true?

That depends on who you ask.
November 11, 2010 6:21:18 PM

someone had problems with ati drivers? cause i dont like the heat, noise and power consumption of the GTX470 but his drivers and Physx support is a plus point for she
a c 646 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 6:23:35 PM

samplerico said:
Ok thanks all!

I don't wanna wait, cause the caymans gonna cost much more and i can't spend more than 300$.

But another doubt is the HD6870-GTX470 Versus, i like the GTX470, cause nvidia always have better drivers, and the performance is slighty better but the heat and noise is terrible... what do u think?

There are several models of the GTX470 that use custom cooling to reduce the noise and heat significantly. You should check out the Gigabyte Superoverclock that comes with the nearly silent Arctic Cooling Acelero Extreme cooler or the MSI Twin Frozr II.
November 11, 2010 6:27:34 PM

I had an EVGA GTX260 216 SC and sold it so I could get an Asus 6850. Couldn't be happy with my decision. O/c'ed to 950/1100(room for more if needed) easily with Afterburner and I'm right there with a 6870. Temps with that o/c are alot cooler with the 6850 as well. Idle at 35*C with the 6850 and with the GTX260 I idled at 45*C. IMO I'd go with a 6850 and just oc it
a c 646 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 6:29:34 PM


Pics???
a c 646 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 6:47:03 PM

Not the kind of pics I meant mywifehas36dd ;) 
November 11, 2010 6:48:16 PM

LOL...She'd kick my sack from here to China if I did that... she said so
a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 6:49:59 PM

Mousemonkey said:
That depends on who you ask.



ROFL :na: 
a c 646 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 6:54:35 PM

jonpaul37 said:
ROFL :na: 

Someone else gets MM's subtle, sardonic humor (humour?).
a c 273 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 7:01:47 PM

17seconds said:
Someone else gets MM's subtle, sardonic humor (humour?).

;) 
November 11, 2010 7:56:36 PM

thanks mywife, but i think buying a HD6850 is not suficient worth compared to the GTX260 i need something more powerful for 1920x1080 at 8xAA, i think im gonna buy a GTX470 but the heat is terrible in this card....i dont see clearly between HD6870 GTX470 the two cards have same prices at same frames, (perhaps GTX470 a little more) but the noise, the power consumption, and the heat scares me, and in the other hand the poor driver support from ATI scares me too...opinions pleassee
November 11, 2010 7:57:40 PM

What is better in this high-end level: ATI or NVIDIA
a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 8:02:33 PM

If it were me, i would personally go with the 6870.
a c 169 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 8:03:56 PM

The driver support isn't bad for ATI.Both Nvidia and ATI make good/bad drivers.
Well,if you can tolerate the noise and temperature of GTX 470,then go for it.But make sure you have a good case(with adequate air flow),otherwise, although 6870 is slower,its a great card
November 11, 2010 8:04:18 PM

Why exactly?
a c 646 U Graphics card
November 11, 2010 8:19:40 PM

"The HD 6850 really was not the noise producing card even at full song. That honor goes to the HD 6870. Without specialized equipment I can only use my ears as a reference and the noise signature is worse than the HD 5870 and really any AMD reference cooler I have used. This one thing more than any other puts a crimp in the want for additional performance usually gained with a fan speed increase."

The chart has load temps on the GTX470 at 85c and the three 6870's at 83c, 84c, and 75c.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_6800series/...

"Radeon HD 6870 - We measured a 41 dBA when the GPU is massively under stress. This means that under normal circumstances, you can slightly hear the product over the regular PC noise."
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-revie...

For the Gigabyte GTX470 Superoverclock:
"We measure an excellent 39 DBa when the GPU is massively under stress. Under normal circumstances this means you cannot hear the cooler. We were shocked to find out how silent this card really is, truly amazing."
http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-470-...

"Gigabyte balanced and fine tuned this product to acceptable heat levels hovering at roughly 80 degrees C under full stress, yet managed to create a near inaudible noise level, and that's just what the doctor ordered!"
November 11, 2010 9:07:58 PM

samplerico said:
thanks mywife, but i think buying a HD6850 is not suficient worth compared to the GTX260 i need something more powerful for 1920x1080 at 8xAA, i think im gonna buy a GTX470 but the heat is terrible in this card....i dont see clearly between HD6870 GTX470 the two cards have same prices at same frames, (perhaps GTX470 a little more) but the noise, the power consumption, and the heat scares me, and in the other hand the poor driver support from ATI scares me too...opinions pleassee

No problem man. Nothing wrong with either of them cards. Both were very tempting when I was going through my decision making process a few weeks ago. Prior to buying my 6850, Nvidia was all I've had. With the advice here at Tom's I decided to finally try AMD and I'm very happy with that choice. I even bought a 2nd card yesterday for Crossfire and just in case one goes bad I will have a backup. Now I just have to wait for Uncle Sam to pay me so I can get a monitor that will fully show the potential of my 6850's. Good luck with your card search you'll be happy either way.
November 11, 2010 10:54:40 PM

Wait for the GTX 560 to come out. It'll be designed to be faster than the 6870 and at least you won't have some cartoonish-looking monstrousity in your machine.
a b U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 1:16:01 PM

sgt bombulous said:
Wait for the GTX 560 to come out. It'll be designed to be faster than the 6870 and at least you won't have some cartoonish-looking monstrousity in your machine.



Absolutely no way the 560 will be more powerful or even close to the 6870 in performance, maybe the 6850 but certainly not the 6870...
a c 376 U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 6:23:24 PM

jonpaul37 said:
Absolutely no way the 560 will be more powerful or even close to the 6870 in performance, maybe the 6850 but certainly not the 6870...

I don't think beating HD6870 is an unrealistic goal for the GTX 560. A high OC on the GTX 460 already has it matching an HD6870 and the GTX 560 should be a tweaked and full(+48 stream processors) gf104 processor with a significantly higher reference speed. I kind of expect the GTX 570 to match or slightly beat the GTX 480 and the GTX 560 to match or slightly beat the GTX 470.
a b U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 7:41:38 PM

Maybe i'm wrong, i was under the impression that the 6870 was basically on par with a 5870, maybe a little less capable...
a c 646 U Graphics card
November 12, 2010 8:19:57 PM

a b U Graphics card
November 14, 2010 11:13:56 AM

Guess i under estimated the 460 1GB...
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