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January 13, 2011 11:59:05 AM

Okay, I have been in and out of these forums for years now. I can say with certainty that I'm still just as lost when choosing components as I was then.
I'm finally at a point in my personal and educational life where I can no longer put off a new PC. If some of you could hold my hand I think it might not be so scary lol. To sum up my spending habits I would rather blow a hundred bucks more on the pair of boots that will last forever, or until some asshole steals them!(Can ya feel that real hostility lol)

Approximate Purchase Date: I would love to have everything up and Running in under a month. Starting purchase in 2 weeks



Budget Range: $1,300 give, but preferably take a little. =)


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Movies, Gaming, Recording Game play, Editing Videos, Editing Music. Web surfing and Child stalking

Parts Not Required: Computer case, I got a 400w Cool Master PSU<not sure if that is salvageable >
A DVD RW.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg and any other safe reliable websites.

Country of Origin:

USA


Parts Preferences: I am open to AMD or Intel, at this point I want the Intel i5 core, but doubt my need for it.

SLI or Crossfire: More then likely no, unless someone can lay out in
retard why and how lol =P.


Monitor Resolution: This one I am unsure of. I am wanting this computer
to be used for HD Movie streaming and also
have an Xbox 360 hooked up to the monitor which needs to be no less then 24inch, preferably 27 inch+. I know big screen wise I would never opt for the 1080p on a screen so small if that tells ya anything. But as of now
the monitor is my biggest concern.


Additional Comments: Okay I'm not going to be using this for
intense gaming I will be hooking my 360 up to the monitor.
I will be playing Starcraft 2 Diablo 3 high setting not required.
I am a video/music editing hobbyist so nothing to extreme there.
I am honestly more focused in the computers compatible life and building
something that is and will be upgradable for at least a few years. Ya know a home multimedia center =).

So I guess to sum up what I am looking for is two things.
Although I have 1,300 to spend I would rather not.
After OS, Speakers and all the misc things how much roughly would I be able to save VS the prebuilt equivalent. Since I am unsure what my actual needs are or even what all the processor jargon that's used now is I can't calculate how much I get screwed by dell in the long run lol.

Constructive information about computer monitors and reliable hardware brands is important since I will be stuck with this setup for at least 2-3 years. I prefer reliability > all. Please help!
(I will be able to afford upgrades overtime)


More about : prebuilt build misc questions talk

January 13, 2011 12:31:41 PM

I tend to be better at gaming PC design, however, I will recommend the parts I think will be of great use to you in all things.
Firstly, the new Intel is a good choice - the i5 2500k is a reasonable price and a far better choice than buying the previous generation. Meanwhile, for things not related to gaming I prefer to stick with Intel over AMD, so Intel it is.

CPU: Intel i5 2500k - $225
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - Asus P8P67 LE (if you do not plan on using two cards then no need to get a mroe expensive board) - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G Skill/Mushkin or Corsair 1600mhz - $40 for 4gb Corsair at the moment
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair 650W - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $70 ($55 if order by next week with discount code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS Windows 7 - $80

Case - Antec 300, HAF 912 are good choices - ~$50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooler (optional if not OCing): Hyper 212+ - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - Depending on how intensive your gaming goes beyond current intention, a 6850 or 6870 will do, or if you want to spend more the GTX 560 comes out 25th Jan which may be a great option. Or more high end is the 6950
I will go with a 6870 as the assumption for now as it is a decent card and a fair price - $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have left out monitors and speakers and soundcard because someone else is likely much better than I am at advising you - I just game so use onboard sound and pretty cheap speakers, when it comes to monitors 1920 x 1080 at 24 inch is all that matters to me.

Total: $925/$910 (using code for HDD)
Total without new case if yours is sufficient: $875/$860

This is without combos, as they may change when you buy, but certainly at the moment there are combos with CPU and PSUs to save money. (you won't want to reuse your 400W PSU)

This PC may even be overkill depending on how intense your hobbying will be, but it will handle anything you throw at it for quite some time and easily last 3+ years, more if you Overclock it. (with the exception of gaming, in which the GPU will likely need an upgrade if you start to become more hardcore with games)
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January 13, 2011 12:41:06 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB: $120 ($60 each) -> put that in a RAID 0 for a fast (great for video editing / scratch drive + games) 1TB hard drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Vertex 2 60GB: $130 -> for your OS and all the rest of the apps (minus most games)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W: $90 ($70 after mir) -> you'll want a new quality PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3P P67 SATA6 USB3.0: $160 -> that's a great looking motherboard for the case you have

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core i5-2500K: $225

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600: $110

TOTAL: $1245 (1225 after mir)

if you need an OS... add $100 for the Windows 7 Home Premium


*edit - whoops - i forgot the video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6950 2GB: $300

(total is the same: $1245)
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January 13, 2011 12:52:58 PM

asteldian said:
I tend to be better at gaming PC design, however, I will recommend the parts I think will be of great use to you in all things.
Firstly, the new Intel is a good choice - the i5 2500k is a reasonable price and a far better choice than buying the previous generation. Meanwhile, for things not related to gaming I prefer to stick with Intel over AMD, so Intel it is.

CPU: Intel i5 2500k - $225
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - Asus P8P67 LE (if you do not plan on using two cards then no need to get a mroe expensive board) - $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G Skill/Mushkin or Corsair 1600mhz - $40 for 4gb Corsair at the moment
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair 650W - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $70 ($55 if order by next week with discount code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS Windows 7 - $80

GPU - Depending on how intensive your gaming goes beyond current intention, a 6850 or 6870 will do, or if you want to spend more the GTX 560 comes out 25th Jan which may be a great option. Or more high end is the 6950
I will go with a 6870 as the assumption for now as it is a decent card and a fair price - $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have left out monitors and speakers and soundcard because someone else is likely much better than I am at advising you - I just game so use onboard sound and pretty cheap speakers, when it comes to monitors 1920 x 1080 at 24 inch is all that matters to me.

Total: $925/$910 (using code for HDD)
Total without new case if yours is sufficient: $875/$860

This is without combos, as they may change when you buy, but certainly at the moment there are combos with CPU and PSUs to save money. (you won't want to reuse your 400W PSU)

This PC may even be overkill depending on how intense your hobbying will be, but it will handle anything you throw at it for quite some time and easily last 3+ years, more if you Overclock it. (with the exception of gaming, in which the GPU will likely need an upgrade if you start to become more hardcore with games)


Okay, now is it possible to shave any expense off with graphics card. I only ask because I am on a P4 with a 128 mb Geforce card, and as I said my gaming needs are very little, at this point if the card can push anything with more then min settings I would be happy lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I found this monitor any thoughts from anyone?
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January 13, 2011 1:16:15 PM

Ah, didn't realise your gaming requirements were that low. A GTX 460 768mb card will probably suffice for you. I ordinarily would not suggest a card for gaming at 1920 x 1080, but then most people are wanting near max settings.
GTX 460 - $140 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Anything lower than that is not worth the savings vs performance loss in my opinion
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