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9600gt 1GB or HD4650 512mb on my system?

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November 14, 2010 2:16:49 PM

Hello guys i am pretty new to upgrading pc components. i was just wondering if my system would be

able to handle a 9600gt 1gb video card? currently i have a 9500gt 512mb ddr2 card. I've also

heard a lot of positive stuff about the HD4650 so i am also thinking of buying it instead. I am

not really a heavy gamer, all i got here is Dota, Gta San Andreas and Sims 3 and Silent Hill 2.

Dota runs fine, Gta san andreas works fine except for some major cut scene issues and when

details are set to very high the game becomes a bit laggy, the real problem is sims 3 which has

the most lag. So which card should i pick? My budget is 3000 pesos or 50-60 dollars?


My specs:

ECS A740GM-M V. 8.0 Motherboard
PCI-E x16 slot

Forgot FSB but i think its around 800-1000Mhz..

AMD Sempron 140 Processor @ 2.69 Ghz

Kingston 1gb ddr2 ram (i plan on buying another stick for a total of 2gb)

PowerLogic ATX 550Watt PSU

OS is windows xp 32-bit





Also:

1. Does the 9600gt require external power cables? cos i don't think my PSU provides them? All it

has are 2 power cables for IDE devices and 2 power cables for SATA i think..

2. I read somewhere around here that on a 32-bit system, the max amount of memory you can have is

4gb? I plan on buying another 1gb stick (my mobo only has 2 slots for ram) making a total of 2GB

ddr2 system memory? My understanding of that topic was even though cards have their own large

memory(1GB), it wouldn't do any good if it was installed on a system with low memory like

mine(1GB also)?
They also mentioned that the clockspeed of your GPU shouldn't go over what your FSB speed is?
Can u guys please clarify this?

What cards that are better than the 9500gt could you recommend for me? Thanks a lot and sorry if

my post is messed up :p 
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November 14, 2010 4:23:50 PM

The 9600GT is more powerful the the HD 4670 and is therefore more powerful than the HD 4650.

Yes, the 9600GT does require an external 6-pin connection. It usually ships with the card so check the list of contents. You can buy it separately and is probably listed under video card accessories or cables.

There is a "green" version of the 9600GT that does not need external power, but is less powerful than the regular 9600GT.
November 14, 2010 9:14:23 PM

Like jaguarskx mentioned, 9600GT is the better choice. My old 9500GT was better than my friends 4670 so 9600GT would obviously out do the 4650. Most cards that require a 6pin PCI-E connection come with an adapter for Molex.

2. Video memory does not relate to system memory.
3. Any clock speed on a GPU has nothing to do with your Front Side Bus speed. Most FSB don't go over 200 and all clock speeds on any GPU are over 600 anyways.
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November 15, 2010 1:08:14 PM

AG Renagade said:
Like jaguarskx mentioned, 9600GT is the better choice. My old 9500GT was better than my friends 4670 so 9600GT would obviously out do the 4650. Most cards that require a 6pin PCI-E connection come with an adapter for Molex.

2. Video memory does not relate to system memory.
3. Any clock speed on a GPU has nothing to do with your Front Side Bus speed. Most FSB don't go over 200 and all clock speeds on any GPU are over 600 anyways.



The question the OP asked about video memory and RAM on a system with a 32 OS is valid.
If you install a video card with 2 gig of memory on system with a 32 bit OS, you will end up with about 1.5gig of RAM left for use. It is a fact.
The 4 gig barrier does include the memory on your video card and it will be assigned address space first, in simple terms.

Anything over 512 meg of memory on cards at this level is simple a marketing gimmick to sell video cards. The cards don't have enough raw power to make use of anything over 512meg.

To the OP, going from a 9500 GT to a 9600GT is a very small step. If you are only expecting slight improvement, and you are getting the card for very cheap, it may be okay, otherwise don't expect too much.
November 16, 2010 8:25:25 AM

thanks for clearing up things guys. i've decided on the 9600gt. so based on my specs, would my system be able to handle a 9600GT? The only concern i have right now is my PSU, Is 550 watts enough? not sure where to connect the external power cables that come with the 9600gt.
November 16, 2010 8:51:11 AM

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Anything over 512 meg of memory on cards at this level is simple a marketing gimmick to sell video cards. The cards don't have enough raw power to make use of anything over 512meg.


Wow i never knew about this? Thanks for mentioning that, but still looking forward to the 9600 GT though..


Quote:
To the OP, going from a 9500 GT to a 9600GT is a very small step. If you are only expecting slight improvement, and you are getting the card for very cheap, it may be okay, otherwise don't expect too much.


Well i did see a a 9600GT by Sparkle and it was considerably cheaper than other brands. May i ask why is that? I've also done some reading around and i found this: http://www.pcx.com.ph/index.php/inno3d-gt240-512ddr3-12.... It's a GT240 my friend says it is slightly better than the 9600gt. Also considering what you stated about 1gb being a marketing gimmick on cards, well this one has 512mb ddr3 in it. Would this be a good alternative?
November 17, 2010 1:41:36 AM

550W will be enough.
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