Well as SB arrived here at Israel please help me pick between 950orSB

cyberthug

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Approximate Purchase Date: This month


Budget Range: 2000$ +-


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, medium photo editing and graphics.


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, SSD.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: buying in Israel, checking parts in Newegg


Country of Origin: Israel


Parts Preferences: Intel with Radeon graphics, can accept nVidia if you think will be better


Overclocking: yes


SLI or Crossfire: Yes in the future


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200
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COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black RC-932-KWN3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Side window
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119230

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185

Dell UltraSharp U2410 (464-7346) Black 24" 6ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824260020

SAPPHIRE 100312SR Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102914

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006

G.SKILL PI 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL6T-6GBPI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231352

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115211

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128423

Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835608018


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COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black RC-932-KWN3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Side window
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119230

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185

Dell UltraSharp U2410 (464-7346) Black 24" 6ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824260020

SAPPHIRE 100312SR Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102914

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231401

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128465

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835608018

Please help me pick between those two systems :)


 

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the 750w should be good even if you plan to run CF, but it doesn't hurt to play it safe with 850w for capacitor aging and the like...especially if you plan to oc the gpus or leave the computer on 24/7.

The advantage of the UD7 over the UD5 is for crossfire. if the UD7 really doe have the capability to run two cards at x16, that will help down the road. my concern though is that being an ATX form factor, there may not be enough room for two double width cards to fit those slots.

that said, I'd probably save a little cash and get the UD5. aside from that you're just getting a few more USB 3.0 ports in place of USB 2.0. I don't think it's wort the extra money since the UD5 has 4 USB ports on the rear I/O and can give you 4 more via the header. So no, I don't think you'll get much more out of the UD7.
 

niloklives

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you will, but it has 4 slots and looking at how cramped that board is, I don't think you'll be able to fit MORE than two cards. If they were single width, yes, but that 6970 along with just about any other performance card out there will be double width. Additionally, the way they usually design the boards, the two x16s would be the ones at the top(closest to the cpu), meaning you'd be forced to put the second card in a x8 slot because of how close the slots are.

The space issue I'm almost certain of, the actual bandwidth allocation, you might want to double check, but that's usually how it is.
 

niloklives

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you'll want to check gigabyte's web site for that. I'm not familiar with the UD7. I can tell you the best you can expect from the UD5 in CF mode is x8/x8 and I can tell you that I don't believe the current GPUs can fully utilize all 16 lanes. if you want to spend the extra money, go for it, it certainly won't hurt you, but I doubt even once you start using CF, you'd really see much difference. TBH I have my doubts about the UD7 performing that far out of spec to begin with.
 

niloklives

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Really can't go wrong with a HAF. as long as you're happy with a full tower, by all means, get it. if you haven't owned a full tower before, just remember those things are huge.

I'm unfortunately not familiar with the 6950, as I tend to lean more towards nVidia so i can't say anything about it. the HD 6000 series GPUs are all pretty good though, and sapphire is a good company, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it. one thing I do like about ATI/AMD GPUs is CF lets you use any two cards that support CF rather than having to have twin cards like in SLI, so when an HD 7000 series comes out, your 6950 will pair up with it.

By the way I looked into it and the UD7, they have the x16 slots staggered so you can use both of the x16s for CF or SLI. That said, you may as well spend the extra money if you want to keep your options open.with maximum versatility. This is my first time looking at the UD7 series, which made me go back and look at asus' maximum series. anyway it was a small learning experience for me in this case..

looks like a killer rig, though.
 

cyberthug

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hmm, didn't know you can use different cards with xfire, I think it's a major win.

So you say you cant use 2 x16s on ud5?
ohh yea you wrote it in a previous post :p
 

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You're completely wrong. AMD/ATI (rip) cards can pair up in their own family, but in no way can they pair up between generations. A 5850 and a 5870 can crossfire. A 6870 and a 6850 can crossfire. A 6950 and 6970 can crossfire. You get the point.

A 6950 and a 7xxx can NOT CROSSFIRE. Just as my old x1300 pro won't go trifire with my dual 5850's.

/End Rant
 

niloklives

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Not completely wrong. I was right about them not having to match.

My mistake though, lol I thought I already said I didn't know much about AMD/ATI xD guess I proved it. Thanks for the correction