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SB 2500k Partial Rebuild

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January 15, 2011 2:14:39 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 2-3 weeks from now


Budget Range: Well, none in particular, but don't want to be wasting money on stuff I don't need.


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming > browsing the net > MS office


Parts Not Required: Many, see below


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: I'm partial to ASUS mobos and Corsair ram. Other than that, no.


Overclocking: Yes


SLI or Crossfire: No, at least not for awhile


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


Additional Comments: Feel free to recommend anymore parts that I'm carrying over that I should ditch. I am planning on eventually getting a SSD and windows 7 later on, but I don't see that as particularly urgent.

Parts I am carrying over from my current build:

EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case- Antec 900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- Corsair 750w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD- Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3500320NS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD burner – Samsung Sata
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS – Vista home prem. 64bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

New parts:

$224.99 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$184.99 - ASUS P8P67 PRO LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

****I am unsure if I should get this or the Evo; the only features I care about on the evo would be the better heat dissipation, but I have no clue if that's worth $15. I don't care about the dual Lan or power/restart switches.

$114.99 - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$29.99 – COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$7 - Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$5.99 - Rosewill 1.64 ft. eSATA Black Flat Cable Support 6 Gbps, 3 Gbps, and 1.5 Gbps transfer rate Model RC-1.64-eSATA-MM-BK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $568

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January 15, 2011 6:42:27 PM

Care to elaborate? You posted all of that just to ask about the RAM? Corsair makes quality RAM.
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January 15, 2011 7:32:03 PM

DXRick said:
Care to elaborate? You posted all of that just to ask about the RAM? Corsair makes quality RAM.


Nope, I just forgot to specify that question about ram in the OP. My concerns are 1) Is the ASUS p67 evo worth $15 over the pro (I honestly have no clue how beneficial the added heat array and other upgrades are, but know I don't need the dual Lan) 2) [ram] and 3) If there is anything else I'm carrying over that I'd be better off replacing. As for the ram...

Here's the list of 2x4G options from Corsair.

I eyed out 9-9-9-24 1600hz ram for $114. There are 9-10-9-27 2000hz options for $180 (standard XMS) and $240 (dominator GT.) Was just wondering if anyone thought that either of those would be worth the cost.
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January 15, 2011 7:54:45 PM

jason11 said:
Nope, I just forgot to specify that question about ram in the OP. My concerns are 1) Is the ASUS p67 evo worth $15 over the pro (I honestly have no clue how beneficial the added heat array and other upgrades are, but know I don't need the dual Lan) 2) [ram] and 3) If there is anything else I'm carrying over that I'd be better off replacing. As for the ram...

Here's the list of 2x4G options from Corsair.

I eyed out 9-9-9-24 1600hz ram for $114. There are 9-10-9-27 2000hz options for $180 (standard XMS) and $240 (dominator GT.) Was just wondering if anyone thought that either of those would be worth the cost.

The $180 Dominator is an un-needed cost imo.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... <-- Combo to save some $
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January 16, 2011 2:19:19 PM

1. SATA cables come with the MoBo

2. What are you dumping to get this stuff ?

3. With a build of this quality, why a bargain cooler ? The 212 is great for peeps on a low budget, but an investment of this magnitude I think warrants a Top 10 cooler. Given recent competition, the 212 has dropped outta the top 20. If money is a concern the No.2 ranked cooler is $10 more

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

4. The Tuniq TX-3 is a 5th place finisher; Shin Etsu is No. 1 in an 80 way test
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. If considering a 2nd 570 later on in SLI you may be concerned that the Pro can only do x8 x8 on the PCI-E lanes .... The revolution does x16 x 16 w/ its NF200 chipset

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6. Corsair TX750 is underpowered and under-quality for twin GFX and OC'ing. If stuck on Corsair, you'd want the HX850 . I'd suggest the $110 XFX Black Edition which is of equal quality to the HX850. F or $10, seems a no brainer to be prepared for the eventuality of a 2nd GFX card and get better, stable voltages from the get go.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7. If not going for the Revolution, and sticking w/ the P67 Pro, consider these combos:

$495 ASUS P8P67 PRO w/ i5-2600k & Civilization V Game .... saves $60 which gets you more than half of that $105 price difference between that and the 2500 for free

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$390 ASUS P8P67 PRO w/ i5-2600k & Civilization V Game ... saves $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

8. What's wrong w/ the old RAM ? ... is it not DDR3 ?

If ya thinking the heatsinks provide some benefit, other than "looking cool" they really provide no benefit .... just a carryover from "ole days" when they such cooling for RAM helped in OC'ing. I have used a lot of these recently

($109) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 16, 2011 3:28:13 PM

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3. With a build of this quality, why a bargain cooler ? The 212 is great for peeps on a low budget, but an investment of this magnitude I think warrants a Top 10 cooler.


That's b/c he's spamming this build on multiple threads without reading the OP's... It's pretty obvious
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January 16, 2011 4:24:20 PM

Thanks for all of the replies and tips.

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1. SATA cables come with the MoBo


That's an eSata cable, that I want to use with my external HDD. I'm 99% sure the Asus p67 pro doesn't come with a eSata cable.

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2. What are you dumping to get this stuff ?

8. What's wrong w/ the old RAM ? ... is it not DDR3 ?


Asus p45 p5q pro, e8500, Xigmatek LGA 775 cooler, corsair DDR2 ram.

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5. If considering a 2nd 570 later on in SLI you may be concerned that the Pro can only do x8 x8 on the PCI-E lanes .... The revolution does x16 x 16 w/ its NF200 chipset

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I don't plan on getting SLI anytime soon. I bought the GTX 570 largely because of crossfire-related headaches with my current card, 4850x2... as opposed to, say, getting 2x GTX 460s or ATI 6870s.

I currently am using x8 x8 crossfire @ 1920x1080 on a p45, and most of the benchmarks from Q1 2009 said at high resolutions (eg 1920x1080), x8/x8 crossfire is a ~5% performance drop in game FPS from x16/x16.

Is it basically the same story now?
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January 16, 2011 5:10:58 PM

jasonh8806 said:
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3. With a build of this quality, why a bargain cooler ? The 212 is great for peeps on a low budget, but an investment of this magnitude I think warrants a Top 10 cooler.


That's b/c he's spamming this build on multiple threads without reading the OP's... It's pretty obvious

Actually if you read the reviews on the SB's, they run as cool as an ice cube. The spendy coolers aren't needed with this cpu, neither is fast timing RAM seeing how the RAM doesn't affect how these cpu's o/c. It a new age with these SB's.
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January 17, 2011 5:24:47 AM

Why_Me said:
Actually if you read the reviews on the SB's, they run as cool as an ice cube. The spendy coolers aren't needed with this cpu, neither is fast timing RAM seeing how the RAM doesn't affect how these cpu's o/c. It a new age with these SB's.


That may be unless you're doing big overclocks in which case the NH-D14 would be the best choice but I was just responding to the question of why he suggested a lower end cooler. (That reason being spamming the same build all over the forum)
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January 23, 2011 3:09:44 PM

Ok, so I'm now ready to make my purchase, and the Asus P67 pro is out of stock. And the Evo has a price increase on newegg, to $210, which is more than I'm willing to spend on it.

I put Asus as my preference simply because I know the most about their boards and their P67 lineup.

What are some decent $150-$190 range non-Asus p67s?


There is an ASrock p67 (extreme4) with decent reviews on newegg, and is only $152:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And the Gigabyte p67 UD4 has decent reviews, but is a tad expensive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Are these decent choices? Any other recommendations?



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January 23, 2011 5:14:20 PM

jason11 said:
Ok, so I'm now ready to make my purchase, and the Asus P67 pro is out of stock. And the Evo has a price increase on newegg, to $210, which is more than I'm willing to spend on it.

I put Asus as my preference simply because I know the most about their boards and their P67 lineup.

What are some decent $150-$190 range non-Asus p67s?


There is an ASrock p67 (extreme4) with decent reviews on newegg, and is only $152:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And the Gigabyte p67 UD4 has decent reviews, but is a tad expensive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Are these decent choices? Any other recommendations?


That AsRock board is a steal at that price.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-motherboard-rou... <--- ASRock P67 Extreme4 Review
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January 27, 2011 2:22:55 PM

Ok, so I got my stuff, and was planning on putting it in today.

And this is perhaps a dumb question, but this is the first time I've changed a motherboard on an existing system and I'm getting incredibly contradictory information via random stuff from google results. Anyways....

Info: I have Vista x64 sp1 OEM edition.

What should I do to get vista working? Can I use my same copy (or even the same installation) of vista on this rebuild?

Any help specific to my situation would be appreciated. I had a plan on what I wanted to do (just reinstall drivers w/o uninstalling anything), but I have no clue if that will work, or if it's the best idea.
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January 27, 2011 3:15:44 PM

In other words, given my situation, would MS let me reactivate vista after putting this stuff in?
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