Will the Ati 6970 outperform the Nvidia GTX 580?
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Xanthous
November 19, 2010 4:11:45 AM
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Metroidman
November 19, 2010 7:51:59 AM
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The HD6970 is not aimed at the GTX580 price point and therefore will not perform to the same levels. We are fairly certain that it will be a stunning value for money solution however.Source.
That's was said a week ago and I have yet to see anything to the contrary so AMD might just be keeping their cards close to their chest or prepare for disappointment as the 69xx cards don't turn out to be as fast as you think they're going to be.
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November 19, 2010 12:45:37 PM
Mousemonkey said:
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The HD6970 is not aimed at the GTX580 price point and therefore will not perform to the same levels. We are fairly certain that it will be a stunning value for money solution however.Source.
That's was said a week ago and I have yet to see anything to the contrary so AMD might just be keeping their cards close to their chest or prepare for disappointment as the 69xx cards don't turn out to be as fast as you think they're going to be.
man, remember when the x2 3870 was introduce it was
them they realise the 4890 witch is near or faster, later on x2 4870
and as well all now the 5870 its near it in perfomance
so appears the x2 5970 dont u think its clear to think that HD6970
will be Single GPU and Faster than gtx580?
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Current 6850 and 6870 should have been 6750 and 6770 and so on.Yeah I sort of see what you mean but I think it may a case of the 6xxx series is being looked at as being a bit of "room to manoeuvre", it's all to do with the fact that a node has been lost (IMO) so they have to experiment on a 40nm process what they would have preferred to to do on a 32nm process but some things won't transfer well and will just have to be run for the first time as and when they are run on a 28nm process whilst other bits can be "tried out" as it where.
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November 19, 2010 4:44:41 PM
g00fysmiley said:
wtb 6700 series out esp if the rumors of them being the first 28nm cards turns out to be true
maybe it'll pull good numebrs as a single slot gpu without needing outside power other than the pci-e slot ... a guy can dreamas for 6970 being faster than 580 who knows... we'll find out in a few weeks
Im Sure 6970 will end being faster than 580 i know... u`ll find out in a few weeks
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well the 6970 is basically the replacment for the 5870, now the successor to the 5970 , the 5990 will most assuradly be faster
nobody knows about the 6970 vs 580 except probably people who work at amd and if you do i'm sure you're breaking all kinds of company policy right now ... so i reiterate WE'll have to wait and see
nobody knows about the 6970 vs 580 except probably people who work at amd and if you do i'm sure you're breaking all kinds of company policy right now ... so i reiterate WE'll have to wait and see
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November 19, 2010 5:18:52 PM
g00fysmiley said:
well the 6970 is basically the replacment for the 5870, now the successor to the 5970 , the 5990 will most assuradly be faster nobody knows about the 6970 vs 580 except probably people who work at amd and if you do i'm sure you're breaking all kinds of company policy right now ... so i reiterate WE'll have to wait and see
dude,
x2 3870 when 4870 come out was even or better in performance + less power consumtion.
x2 4870 when the 5870 come out was even or better in performance + less power consumtion
x2 5970 im Sure when 6970 get out it will be even or faster than x2 5970 so it means will be even or faster than 580
what im trying to say is that ATI and Nvidia always does dual Card but their Next top line card alwasy end being even or faster of the old Dual card
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i'd agree with you there but its speculation. just because that has been the case does not mean that will be the case in the future. now do i think and hope the 6970 will be faster than a 5970 ... heck yea single chip and faster drawing less power, yes please... but i'm not gonna say it will be a sure thing and poitn out nobody in the know is gonna post it before official releases.
you're using a gambler's technique here its landed red 3 times so it has to land red the 4th time... its a great way to lose money on a roulette wheel
(granted the odds are better than chance here given past performance, but there is still no way to be 100% sure as i said its educated speculation but still speculation)
you're using a gambler's technique here its landed red 3 times so it has to land red the 4th time... its a great way to lose money on a roulette wheel
(granted the odds are better than chance here given past performance, but there is still no way to be 100% sure as i said its educated speculation but still speculation)
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The delay in the release date of the 6900's must be due to either; scarcity of components, or a need to retool the performance in light of the GTX580, or a combination of both. Given the extra time, I would assume that AMD would release something at least comparable to the GTX580. After all, they are forcing people to wait while they also missing out on a LOT of holiday sales, so it better be worth it.
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November 19, 2010 6:27:15 PM
17seconds said:
The delay in the release date of the 6900's must be due to either; scarcity of components, or a need to retool the performance in light of the GTX580, or a combination of both. Given the extra time, I would assume that AMD would release something at least comparable to the GTX580. After all, they are forcing people to wait while they also missing out on a LOT of holiday sales, so it better be worth it.as i see u dont like ati nor amd at all lol
u have a gtx480 when u can buy x2 5970
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that doens't mean he doesn't like ati, just to him it made sense to buy nvidia. perhaps a title he wanted to play used physix or mayeb he wanted a single gpu card. his motives are his own but it doesn't show a prefrance for one brand simply that when he bought his card to him the 480 gtx was the better choice
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g00fysmiley said:
that doens't mean he doesn't like ati, just to him it made sense to buy nvidia. perhaps a title he wanted to play used physix or mayeb he wanted a single gpu card. his motives are his own but it doesn't show a prefrance for one brand simply that when he bought his card to him the 480 gtx was the better choiceOr didn't want to spend the extra $200...
I'm still trying to figure out what about my post would cause an AMD fan to get upset. I basically said that I think the 6970 would be as good or better than the GTX580 because they are taking their time to get it right.
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17seconds said:
Or didn't want to spend the extra $200...I'm still trying to figure out what about my post would cause an AMD fan to get upset. I basically said that I think the 6970 would be as good or better than the GTX580 because they are taking their time to get it right.
Ever consider that they're taking their time because they ran into a snag and it didn't perform quite as well as they had originally expected? Just sayin... We won't know till the benchies arrive...
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jonpaul37 said:
Ever consider that they're taking their time because they ran into a snag and it didn't perform quite as well as they had originally expected? Just sayin... We won't know till the benchies arrive...Yeah, that's basically what I said originally also:
"The delay in the release date of the 6900's must be due to either; scarcity of components, or a need to retool the performance in light of the GTX580"
Actually, part of the deal is that Texas Instruments makes a DrMOS component that is shared by both the 6800 series and the 6900 series. These parts are running short on supply, and this is why the 6900 series has been delayed and the 6800 series is getting hard to find.
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as i see u dont like ati nor amd at all lolu have a gtx480 when u can buy x2 5970
lol. while it is true 5970 is faster but 480 is fastest single gpu card back then and will not have scaling issue in games. and like some other point it out when both card can max out most games on high resolution such as 1920x1080 or even 2560x1600 it is better to get which is cheaper unless the buyer are loyal fan to one company
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TiazaK
November 25, 2010 10:11:14 PM
jonpaul37 said:
Go back to highschool problem solving...6970 is to 5870
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GTX580 is to GTX480
If that is the case then no, 6970 will not beat GTX580 in performance
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Who knows until benchmarks are out.
Actually the 5870 is to 5850 and 6970 is to 6950.
The GTX 580 and GTX 480 are the in same generation.
Anyways love the GTX 580, hope ATI have great drivers from now on and the 6970 performs way better than a 5970. Edit: and is affordable
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