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Anonymous   03-04-2005 at 05:59:31 PM

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Is there a product available that will allow me to use my laptop to
cold boot a pc that doesn't have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor hooked
up to it? Most of our clients have servers that are remotely
administerable via Telnet, SSH, WinVNC, Remote Desktop, or some other
software application. This is great for a healthy system, but doesn't
work for cold booting, or doing low-level stuff outside the GUI or
traditional CLI.

I need to know if there's a device that will allow me to view a window
on my laptop and see the pc booting and use my keyboard and mouse to
control the remote during this boot process. If you've ever seen
VMWare or Virtual PC, this is the sort of interface I'm talking about,
but using external hardware to use my laptop to control another
physical device.

Please let me know if you've seen or heard of a product that does this.
Currently I'm transporting a 15" lcd and a keyboard with a built-in
trackball from site to site and it would be MUCH easier to just use my
laptop and a few cables.

Thanks,

Jeff

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Anonymous   03-05-2005 at 01:10:51 PM
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trentjd@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a product available that will allow me to use my laptop to
> cold boot a pc that doesn't have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor hooked
> up to it? Most of our clients have servers that are remotely
> administerable via Telnet, SSH, WinVNC, Remote Desktop, or some other
> software application. This is great for a healthy system, but doesn't
> work for cold booting, or doing low-level stuff outside the GUI or
> traditional CLI.

I think what you're trying to do is use the laptop as a serial console,
where you'd hook up the laptop to the other computer's serial port. To
do that, maybe you need a boot loader or a bios that can handle such a
thing.

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Chris   03-06-2005 at 08:04:02 PM
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Uzytkownik "Donn Miller" <hackr_d@yahoo.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:38tlubF5rva7cU1@individual.net...
> trentjd@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is there a product available that will allow me to use my laptop to
> > cold boot a pc that doesn't have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor hooked
> > up to it? Most of our clients have servers that are remotely
> > administerable via Telnet, SSH, WinVNC, Remote Desktop, or some other
> > software application. This is great for a healthy system, but doesn't
> > work for cold booting, or doing low-level stuff outside the GUI or
> > traditional CLI.
>
With "normal" laptop (without BIOS mod) and "normal" clients-targets it's
rather immpossible. :-(

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Anonymous   03-06-2005 at 03:17:08 PM
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trentjd@gmail.com wrote:
>Is there a product available that will allow me to use my laptop to
>cold boot a pc that doesn't have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor hooked
>up to it?

Someone (Black Box? Circuit Cellar?) makes a device that accepts
serial data and makes keypresses, so it's theoretically possible, but
it it doesn't already exist it's going to be time-consuming to
engineer. You might be better off with a small, portable (wireless?)
USB keyboard and mouse. You may not even need the mouse...

>I need to know if there's a device that will allow me to view a window
>on my laptop and see the pc booting and use my keyboard and mouse to
>control the remote during this boot process.

Input of VGA video into your laptop screen is pretty difficult. Maybe
a VGA->NTSC converter and a video capture device? Quality is likely
to be lousy...

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Anonymous   03-06-2005 at 04:55:08 PM
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trentjd@gmail.com wrote:

> Is there a product available that will allow me to use my laptop to
> cold boot a pc that doesn't have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor hooked
> up to it? Most of our clients have servers that are remotely
> administerable via Telnet, SSH, WinVNC, Remote Desktop, or some other
> software application. This is great for a healthy system, but doesn't
> work for cold booting, or doing low-level stuff outside the GUI or
> traditional CLI.
>
> I need to know if there's a device that will allow me to view a window
> on my laptop and see the pc booting and use my keyboard and mouse to
> control the remote during this boot process. If you've ever seen
> VMWare or Virtual PC, this is the sort of interface I'm talking about,
> but using external hardware to use my laptop to control another
> physical device.
>
> Please let me know if you've seen or heard of a product that does this.
> Currently I'm transporting a 15" lcd and a keyboard with a built-in
> trackball from site to site and it would be MUCH easier to just use my
> laptop and a few cables.

The only way I know of to do what you want is with a KVM-over-IP solution.
If you google "kvm remote" you'll find a number of hits. The cheapest I've
seen is the Belkin F1DE101G,
<http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=200571&pcount=&Product_Id=152988#>
which Buy.com has for about 600 bucks plus another 30 or so for a set of
cables. I've got a couple of Belkin non-remote KVMs--if it works as well
as they do it should be fine for what you're doing.

You might want to go to the Belkin site and download the manual and see if
it looks like what you need.

> Thanks,
>
> Jeff

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