Life of LGA 775?

[quinto_94]

Im currently at a stand still. I built my current rig back in 2008. It currently stands as so:

E8500
G Skill DDR2 1066 (4x2gb) 8GB DDR2
HIS ATI 4850 ICE-Q
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P

I'm trying to decide if I should upgrade the CPU to a q9550 and buy a new video card, or just build a whole new rig depending on the bulldozer CPU release and its chipsets. I don't want to swap the CPU and then wont be compatible with new programs in the next few years. I do a lot of gaming, minor video and photo editing, lots of microsoft office work. Screen resolution will increase, however that can easily be changed with selecting a proper GPU.

Thoughts?

 

[rwpritchett]

I say hang on to your current system and save up for a full replacement. The E8500 is still pretty good for lightly threaded apps. Is there something in particular that you feel your computer is lacking in some way? Video editing would improve by a quad core, but a Q9550 is a bit too much $$$ to just get you by for a year or two, and it may actually feel a bit slower on single threaded apps.

That's my 2¢.

 

[geekapproved]

The Q9550 is a great cpu, but if you can't get it less than $150, you should just upgrade the whole mobo/cpu/ram.

 

[silver565]

775 isn't dead yet. Sure 1155 is out now, but the cpu's you can get in the 775 format are still pretty good.

 

[rwpritchett]

^I agree. I'm still on 775 myself (Q9650). What really matters is the time for ROI (return of investment). If purchasing a $200 C2Q will get you by for another 3-5 years, then it's worth it. If it only gets you another year of productivity, then it's money better spent on a new system.

 

[HostileDonut]

The LGA 775 socket is dead. People still use it, but most of them are upgrading. They cost a lot and don't perform too great. They do overclock very hight though. I wouldn't put any more money into a LGA 775 system.

 

[quinto_94]

thanks for your quick responses. personally, i see my computer lacking in the gpu department, but thats expected. encoding/decoding/compressing/etc takes a good while. id have to upgrade my video card and cpu to keep up.

my issue is this however. i can buy a 6950/570 and a q9550 and that will set me back about 800 bucks new. or just grab a new gpu, however would a e8500 and ddr 2 be a bottleneck for a amd 6950/ nvidia 570? that way my gpu would be up to date, and the rest of the system can come next.

 

[HostileDonut]

What is your budget for the whole system? We can help you put one together in your budget. After you get that, sell your old one.

 

[enzo matrix]

My advice is to upgrade just your video card now, then upgrade the rest of your system in a bit to a newer socket. I went up to a 6950 1GB and am impressed with the performance vs my old 4850. Your CPU will still be enough for any not-heavily threaded games. This summer might be a good chance to upgrade the rest of your system.

 

[quinto_94]

as for budget? i really haven't thought it out. however i do plan on running at 1920x1080. i dont see a reason for me to upgrade to a 980/990i7 just for increasing my e-penor for the sake of it. basically i want to build once, and then upgrade the cpu 3-4 years down the road and hold onto the system. if i really thought about it, it would be about 1500.

if i could have built this current computer over again, i woud have went with a am2 dd2 board with a x4 cpu

 

[HostileDonut]

So, do you want me to suggest you a build?

 

[jaguarskx]

I don't want to swap the CPU and then wont be compatible with new programs in the next few years.

Compatibility is based on the operating system.

Performance is based one the CPU. Games are dependent on the video card as well.

 

[king smp]

upgrade to a HD 6950 for example
and hold off until Ivy Bridge release
also by end of year different SandyBridges scheduled to come
out if I read right
the GPU can be carried to new build so no money lost

 

[quinto_94]

So, do you want me to suggest you a build?

if you could, that would steer me into the right direction . i do know that 1500 is a very good amount to play with figuratively speaking.

Compatibility is based on the operating system.

Performance is based one the CPU. Games are dependent on the video card as well.

thats what i meant. its like trying to run GTA 4 on a amd 2200 single core. it might run, but not very well.

upgrade to a HD 6950 for example
and hold off until Ivy Bridge release
also by end of year different SandyBridges scheduled to come
out if I read right
the GPU can be carried to new build so no money lost

that actually sounds like a great idea. upgrade my gpu for the time being, and then piece the rest together little by little.

 

[HostileDonut]

It is actually a good idea to buy all your system pieces together. I'll put a system together for you. Just wait a while. Do you want Blu-Ray?

 

[quinto_94]

yes. no need to be able to write bd-r however.

 

[HostileDonut]

Okay. I'm working on the build.

 

[king smp]

definitley IMHO

there is just too much CPU advances this year

Of course you have to be careful of the always waiting for the next new thing
syndrome

but this upcoming year there is so much

and really with Sandybridge the best is yet to come

Traditionally Intel on new release holds back

plus let them get the bugs out

best bet is to always buy Revision 3 technology

Version one that is released is in some ways a real world Beta tester
to these companies

as far as LGA775 goes I would not sink big money into it
It is still a very viable platform for performance
it is a fact that many uninformed especially younger enthusiasts dont
realize that a OCd Q9xxx series can compete with the I5s and I7s when they are at stock speeds

I like what RWPritchett said



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^I agree. I'm still on 775 myself (Q9650). What really matters is the time for ROI (return of investment). If purchasing a $200 C2Q will get you by for another 3-5 years, then it's worth it. If it only gets you another year of productivity, then it's money better spent on a new system.

looking at it as price x performance x ROI is a great way of thinking

only you know what you need from your computer and how you use and
how it is performing for you

For some people (me included) having a 45min avi encode to burnt DVD is
great
for others they need 20 mins

either way the final product is the same

if your business is making dvds then of course you need to invest
and have the fastet time possible because time is money

but for me as an amateur home movie video editing enthusiast
then I am ok with 45mins

My 3,0 Core2Duo can still easily run a VM,browse,email and play HD
file while encoding and burning at the same time with no lag

newer Core2Duos and Quads are only about 3 years old
unless your a 20 year old child then 3 years is not by no means a long time

 

[ghnader hsmithot]

I heard you could change your rig to a hackintosh.

 

[HostileDonut]

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517007&cm_re=Azza_case-_-11-517-007-_-Product

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574&cm_re=p67_motherboard-_-13-130-574-_-Product

Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022&cm_re=corsair_850w-_-17-139-022-_-Product

Hard Drive #1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795&cm_re=WD_black_caviar_500gb-_-22-136-795-_-Product

Hard Drive #2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795&cm_re=WD_black_caviar_500gb-_-22-136-795-_-Product

Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136181&cm_re=lg_blu-ray_burner-_-27-136-181-_-Product

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&cm_re=Intel_Core_i5_2500k-_-19-115-072-_-Product

CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181011&Tpk=corsair%20a70

RAM Kit #1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178265&cm_re=4gb_1600-_-20-178-265-_-Product

RAM Kit #2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178265&cm_re=4gb_1600-_-20-178-265-_-Product

GPU #1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121418&cm_re=hd6870-_-14-121-418-_-Product

GPU #2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121418&cm_re=hd6870-_-14-121-418-_-Product

That all adds up to $1341.08. That would be a wicked gaming machine that anyone would be proud to own! It has a great case, aftermarket heat-sink, CF hd6870s, 8gb 1600 CAS 8 RAM, and all the rest of the goodies you would ever need. It fits under that $1500 budget too. Trust me, if you are looking for an upgrade ad can really justify spending that much, go for it!

 

[king smp]

The LGA 775 socket is dead. People still use it, but most of them are upgrading. They cost a lot and don't perform too great. They do overclock very hight though. I wouldn't put any more money into a LGA 775 system.

Really, young one
how about this benchmark comparison of a Core2Duo E6750 at 2.66 vs your x 3 440 at 3.0

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/119?vs=60

the 440 will win the multihreaded benches due to extra core
but in Crysis Warhead is a tie
remember the E6750 is slower clock
remember it is easy to get the CPU to 4.0ghz on good air


look at this bench of Q9550 C2Q vs the 440

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/119?vs=50

the 440 is annihilated by a slower chip
and the COre2Quads will OC just as high if not higher than yours

Be careful with the advice you give
Check your facts
You are very young (13) and maybe dont realize the effect your
advice can have on somebody here

People here may invest thousands of dollars of money they worked for
and budgeted carefully based on your advice

You will understand when you are older about working and budgeting money
especially when you have a family to support

 

[HostileDonut]

Just because the chip has a slower clock doesn't mean it is slow. AMD and Intel clocks are different. I would not buy any LGA 775 because they are not worth sinking the money into. C2Q would obviously win vs. a 440. Just because I am 14 doesn't mean I don't understand computers. Don't spend any money on LGA775. LGA775 is dead...

 

[speedbird]

Decent Older Quads for the 775 platform are expensive unless you can save some money and buy second hand, but you could be taking a risk. It would still be cheaper than buying a New CPU, Motherboad and Ram but is it really worth investing in an old platform. I went from a q6600 3.0Ghz (Mine didn't overclock that well) to a new i5 2500 build and the difference has been huge especially rendering Videos, even gaming feels smoother with the same graphics card. If you upgrade the platform shortly down the road after buying a 775 quad then you'll be paying more in the long run.

 

[majin ssj eric]

Your E8500 is still a very nice processor. Unless there is a specific task its unable to perform to your satisfaction you should hang onto it until the next wave of tech hits....

 

[king smp]

your statement was "they dont perform too great"

my point was based on that statement

now for example a Q9650 beats a 965 be
but would I spend the money on a Q9650

absolutely not
i would pick the 965

Core2Quads are ridiculously over priced

but performance wise they are still a very viable cpu

if you currently have a Q9xxx series then really no reason to upgrade

of course building a new LGA775 system at retail price is is out of the question

what was said of return of investment is also important

right now the OP could get a C2Q q66600 for around 150 usd if shopped carefully
especially if willing to buy used

if he OC the Q6600 to 3.2
easy to do
then for a 150 dollar investment his system would be fine for a couple of years
depending on his needs

of course he hes a 1500 budget so money is not really an issue
if somebody in same position wanted performance increase
with an under two hundred dollar budget
then getting the Q6600 would be the way to go

this thread is about the life or viability of LGA775
to write it off and tell somebody to get a complete
new system because the LGA775 is dead
is im my humble opinion wrong

I will tell you this
you do know alot for your age
more than alot of adults

that build you put together is great
I couldnt come up with better build
for the money

but consider all factors before telling somebody to write off there
system as a Dead platform