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Would my PSU be able to handle a GTX 470?

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November 20, 2010 12:05:20 AM

I have an ATI 512mb 5770 and am looking to upgrading. I don't want to crossfire.

I have a 585watt PSU.

My question is whether or not I could handle a SOC 470.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've already asked this on one forum, but am not getting results.

Here's what I've gotten from them:
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the only power supplies avaliable that are at 585w are a hec and gigabyte odin. proper rating is at 460w, is made by FSP.

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The 470 doesn't require a 650W PSU. Look at reviews, none of them show power consumption anywhere close to 650W.

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You could do SLI 470s on a 585w, if it is a good quality PSU.


The thing is I don't know what brand of PSU I have. I can't see a brand name on the case.

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November 20, 2010 12:29:17 AM

bump, anyone?
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a b U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 12:37:40 AM

I doubt it. Those PSU's have inflated ratings because half or more of the available watts are on the 3.3 and 5v rails. If you look your PSU up it probably shows that it has 2 12v rails at like 19a and 20a but you can really only get like 24a on both of them combined. It would be very borderline and I wouldn't recommend it.
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November 20, 2010 12:48:02 AM

Okay, since the 470 is out of the question, should I just get a 460?

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a b U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 1:55:27 AM

A 460 is not a huge upgrade from a 5770, I would get a good power supply and then save up and buy the card you want.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 4:27:19 AM

Why not get the 1g version of the 5770?
Or just get a 6850/their not as demanding on power as a 460.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 5:27:58 AM

Can you get a Model No. / or a serial number when you look at it?Search it and see if you can find it that way.Their is no amp ratings on it?
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a c 271 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 5:42:49 AM

matteumayo12 said:
bump, anyone?

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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 5:51:40 PM

I just looked and it didn't say if it has a Pci-Express connector so i don't think you would be able to run a higher end graphics card.For it being 585watts it should, maybe it's just not listed.
What is your budget?
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November 20, 2010 5:56:53 PM

purple stank said:
I just looked and it didn't say if it has a Pci-Express connector so i don't think you would be able to run a higher end graphics card.For it being 585watts it should, maybe it's just not listed.
What is your budget?


I have a $250 budget right now... EDIT: I can add to that if necessary, maybe up to $320-ish. The major con for me is that the PSU would cost $60+ and $50 to install it, in addition to the cost of the GPU.

If it doesn't have a PCI-E connector then how am I running my 5770? Or does it not require one? I don't know much about power supplies.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 6:03:10 PM

What are you full system specs, like prossecor and motherboard all that stuff.If it's possible you could spend 50$ on a quality PSU and get 6850 for $250,with all the rebates and free shipping could be less.Open your case and see if the 5770 is just sitting in the pci-express slot and is their an extra cord running to it from the power supply or the motherboard.Also what do you need the card for?If it is for gaming i would go with the plan i suggested above.
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November 20, 2010 6:12:10 PM

purple stank said:
What are you full system specs, like prossecor and motherboard all that stuff.If it's possible you could spend 50$ on a quality PSU and get 6850 for $250,with all the rebates and free shipping could be less.Open your case and see if the 5770 is just sitting in the pci-express slot and is their an extra cord running to it from the power supply or the motherboard.Also what do you need the card for?If it is for gaming i would go with the plan i suggested above.



Mobo: ASRock M3A770DE

RAM: G-Skill 2x2gb DDR3. (4096mb)

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz

PSU: Posted in thread above.

GPU: Powercolor Radeon HD 512mb 5770


The 5770 has no cord hooked up to it from the PSU/mobo as far as I can tell.

I am going for gaming, yes.

The problem with the 50-60 dollar PSU is that I would also need to get someone to install it, adding on to the cost. The last time I did this it cost $50. I don't think I want to try to replace it myself.
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November 20, 2010 6:16:29 PM

i have a 500 watt allied power supply and it handles my 470 gtx fine.
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November 20, 2010 6:36:01 PM

matteumayo12 said:
I have a $250 budget right now... EDIT: I can add to that if necessary, maybe up to $320-ish. The major con for me is that the PSU would cost $60+ and $50 to install it, in addition to the cost of the GPU.

If it doesn't have a PCI-E connector then how am I running my 5770? Or does it not require one? I don't know much about power supplies.

$50 to install a PSU? You could probably do that yourself pretty easily.
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November 20, 2010 6:46:18 PM

oneblackened said:
$50 to install a PSU? You could probably do that yourself pretty easily.


Yeah but I don't want to wreck my system...

Maybe I'll try it... just seems risky to me.

And to the guy above that says his PSU at 500w runs it, though I'm not sure, I think it also depends on Amperage and Rails and stuff like that.

Maybe someone more educated on the subject could step in?
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 7:33:18 PM

I think your PSU will be fine, it does have 39 amps on the 12/v rail.Although it does look really old.As for your computer i think you will also be fine their, don't think any bottleneck will be created at all from a higher end GPU.This is why you might need a new PSU...if you are looking at getting the 470 you would be pushing it with your current PSU
470:
System Requirements Minimum of a 550 Watt power supply. (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 38 Amps.)
Power Connector 2 x 6 Pin

And you don't have any Pci-Express Connectors so you can't get any high end GPU's.
Anything over a 5770 will require a Pci-express connector.
I would suggest just getting another 5770 and do crossfire.Or get a new PSU and a 6870/6850.

Here a PSU, but if your intrested ill start looking more into it for better deals.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$50 after rebate and $5 shipping
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November 20, 2010 7:46:14 PM

purple stank said:
I think your PSU will be fine, it does have 39 amps on the 12/v rail.Although it does look really old.As for your computer i think you will also be fine their, don't think any bottleneck will be created at all from a higher end GPU.This is why you might need a new PSU...if you are looking at getting the 470 you would be pushing it with your current PSU
470:
System Requirements Minimum of a 550 Watt power supply. (Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 38 Amps.)
Power Connector 2 x 6 Pin

And you don't have any Pci-Express Connectors so you can't get any high end GPU's.
Anything over a 5770 will require a Pci-express connector.
I would suggest just getting another 5770 and do crossfire.Or get a new PSU and a 6870/6850.

Here a PSU, but if your intrested ill start looking more into it for better deals.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$50 after rebate and $5 shipping


I am sort of confused.

You said it should be fine with my PSU, but then you said "And you don't have any Pci-Express Connectors so you can't get any high end GPU's."

I would love it if you found some deals for me! :D 

I'm kind of avoiding CF because it's kind of difficult, and my card is kind of old.

Is a 6870 better than a 470? Or worth it?

Thanks,
-matt
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 9:20:38 PM

The 6870 is about the same as a 470 just some minor differences like the bus width and amount of ram both in the same price range but the 6870 is a little lower.Sorry for my confusion, your PSU has 39 amps on the 12/v rail which is okay, but you don't have any PCI-Express Connectors, which are required to get more power from your PSU when you use higher level graphics cards like the 6870 or the 470.I think a 5770 is the highest you can go on your PSU,every card after that requires PCI-express connectors.SO you need a new PSU if you plan on getting a better graphics card.You have 2 options...

1)Buy another 5770 for crossfire which could be compared to having a 460.
2)Buy a new PSU with PCI-Express connectors and buy a new graphics card.

Option number 1 is cheaper,maybe easier.
Option number 2 is more expensive and it might be more difficult to install.
I don't know how to install a PSU but i've heard of tons of how-to videos on youtube that will guide you through it step by step.
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November 20, 2010 10:40:19 PM

purple stank said:
The 6870 is about the same as a 470 just some minor differences like the bus width and amount of ram both in the same price range but the 6870 is a little lower.Sorry for my confusion, your PSU has 39 amps on the 12/v rail which is okay, but you don't have any PCI-Express Connectors, which are required to get more power from your PSU when you use higher level graphics cards like the 6870 or the 470.I think a 5770 is the highest you can go on your PSU,every card after that requires PCI-express connectors.SO you need a new PSU if you plan on getting a better graphics card.You have 2 options...

1)Buy another 5770 for crossfire which could be compared to having a 460.
2)Buy a new PSU with PCI-Express connectors and buy a new graphics card.

Option number 1 is cheaper,maybe easier.
Option number 2 is more expensive and it might be more difficult to install.
I don't know how to install a PSU but i've heard of tons of how-to videos on youtube that will guide you through it step by step.


Okay, I'm gonna grab another PSU, and save up for a better card.

Thanks for all the help! :wahoo: 
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 11:28:18 PM

Heres a great deal which i think you should before time runs out on this deal...

5830 Combo'd with XFX 650 Watt/the 5830 is equal to the 460/470

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$210=$164 after rebates

5850 Combo'd with XFX 650 Watt/comparable to a 470/6870

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$260=$200 after rebates

Both of these graphics cards are exactly what your looking for and the PSU their combo'd with is exactly what you need.I only wish i had the money to buy,such a great deal.

Goodluck in your purchase, and your welcome.
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November 20, 2010 11:37:30 PM

purple stank said:
Heres a great deal which i think you should before time runs out on this deal...

5830 Combo'd with XFX 650 Watt/the 5830 is equal to the 460/470

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
$210=$164 after rebates

5850 Combo'd with XFX 650 Watt/comparable to a 470/6870

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$260=$200 after rebates

Both of these graphics cards are exactly what your looking for and the PSU their combo'd with is exactly what you need.I only wish i had the money to buy,such a great deal.

Goodluck in your purchase, and your welcome.


WOW!

Those are some insane deals!!!

Thank you so much, you've been a life saver! :o 
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 20, 2010 11:39:55 PM

Welcome, which one were you thinking of getting?
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November 20, 2010 11:46:56 PM

purple stank said:
Welcome, which one were you thinking of getting?


I'm thinking of going for the 5850. Performs almost as good as a 470, for a lot cheaper.

One question: Are those two items compatible? Because in the details for the GPU it says "Power Connector: 2 x 6 Pin".

Does that mean the PSU needs 2 6-pin connectors? Or just a 2x6 pin connector? Kind of a stupid question :p 
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November 20, 2010 11:58:25 PM

2 6 pin PCI-E connectors.
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November 20, 2010 11:59:45 PM

oneblackened said:
2 6 pin PCI-E connectors.


But I don't see any PSUs that even HAVE 2 6 pin connectors...
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 12:01:42 AM

I'm not sure, i think it's the same it's just worded differntly for the PSU and GPU spesifications,you could always google it.And it's the GPU that needs the 2x6 pin.

That PSU the 5850 is bundled with, is crossfire ready so it comes with extra pci-connectors for another card if you wanted to add another 58xx series card into it later.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 12:03:23 AM

Their should be no reason that PSU wouldn't have the right connectors, and i'm sure theirs an instruction booklet in both the GPU box and the PSU box.
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November 21, 2010 12:06:14 AM

purple stank said:
Their should be no reason that PSU wouldn't have the right connectors, and i'm sure theirs an instruction booklet in both the GPU box and the PSU box.


Cool thanks again! :bounce:  :D 
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November 21, 2010 12:07:47 AM

2 6 pin connectors
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 12:25:07 AM

They are the same just worded diferrently?Or 2 seperaet things?
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November 21, 2010 12:54:39 AM

I think they're either misguided or trolling, because there are no PSUs with 2 6-pins (or very few.)
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November 21, 2010 1:10:47 AM

what are you talking about matt, I have a 1200W PSU that has 3 6 pins, and 3 6+2 pins, which I am using all of them. There are plenty of PSUs that have them. If a PSU doesn't have them, then I would think twice about getting it for a card that requires them IMO
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November 21, 2010 1:12:15 AM

that XFX 650 that he linked you had 4, 1 6 pin, and 3 6 plus 2 pin connectors.

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November 21, 2010 1:19:12 AM

matteumayo12 said:
I have a $250 budget right now... EDIT: I can add to that if necessary, maybe up to $320-ish. The major con for me is that the PSU would cost $60+ and $50 to install it, in addition to the cost of the GPU.

If it doesn't have a PCI-E connector then how am I running my 5770? Or does it not require one? I don't know much about power supplies.

PSUs are really easy to install... why are you having someoen else do it?
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November 21, 2010 1:31:50 AM

I'll install it for $25 Matt ;) 
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November 21, 2010 2:02:22 AM

microterf said:
I'll install it for $25 Matt ;) 

Heh, maybe. Doubt you live in the Portland, OR area though :pt1cable: 

I'll try to install it myself first, but if I can't I'll get someone else to do it.

And microterf, your above post didn't make much sense to me... did you imply that it WOULD work? :sweat: 

EDIT:

Just looked over it again, and saw this list:

1 x Main connector (20+4Pin)
1 x 8-Pin EPS 12V
1 x 4+4-Pin ATX/EPS 12V
6 x Peripheral
6 x SATA
2 x Floppy
4 x PCI-E

:sol: 

Also, I just noticed a PCI-E connector connected to my 5770... it looks like it's 2x6 pin... Does this mean I should just get the 470? I think I might cut it pretty close in terms of the PSU I currently have though.

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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 8:03:45 AM

You can get the 460 or the 6850 anything higher and it would be pushinging it,remeber you have 39 amps on your 12/v rail so remember that when you look up the power requirements for a GPU it will say how many amps they require.Really think you should just stay with that combo deal, it's a quality PSU, and thats the part that matters most.Your current PSU is really old and it could fail under serious pressure from high end gpus.I still think you should go with the 5850/XFX 650Watt.
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a b U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 9:22:00 AM

Go for the 5850 and PSU deal. I think it is a good deal.

And install them yourself. If you do not know how ask here and we can help. It is not that hard. If you want to pay 50$ for the installation your choice.

If not buy a gtx4870 and a corsair 650wpsu.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 9:39:46 AM

I remember looking at your PSU in that link on newegg,i don't remember it ever saying it had pci-express connectors,are you sure it isn't the fan plugged into the card? or is it an actualy wire that run from the psu to the card or from the mobo.
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November 21, 2010 12:20:48 PM

PCI-Express Connector1 x 6-Pin, 3 x 6+2-Pin

Look under details in the psu. Go with the combo.
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November 21, 2010 6:39:13 PM

Okay, thanks everyone!

You've all been very helpful :D 

I'll go ahead and try to install the PSU that comes in that combo myself, and if anything goes awry I'll just get some help.

Just one question left. How long does that combo last? Like when will it expire on the site?

I might have to wait a week or so before I have the money. :sweat: 
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November 21, 2010 6:39:51 PM

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a c 271 U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 6:41:35 PM

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