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January 19, 2011 12:48:52 AM

About to pull the trigger on the following build. Please let me know if you see some obvious incompatibilities or if my reasoning is seriously flawed, and help me pick between some alternatives I listed. I realize a lot of it is overkill, but that's fine with me.



Approximate Purchase Date: The sooner, the better.


Budget Range: Less than $3k after rebates,


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (mostly WoW, so SLI/Xfire and dual-GPU cards are of questionable value).


Parts Not Required: Keeping my old 22" CRT, keyboard, mouse until I finish the build, will buy new ones later. Keeping my Sennheiser HD600 headphones and Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 5.1 speakers for the new build.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon.com > Newegg.com (pay California sales tax) > FrozenCPU.com


Country of Origin: US.


Parts Preferences: None.


Overclocking: Yes.


SLI or Crossfire: No. (Doesn't benefit WoW. Will be using Thermalright Spitfire or Shaman aftermarket GPU cooler, so 2nd card won't fit anyway.)


Monitor Resolution: Buying a new LCD eventually, at least 1920x1200, possibly 2560 x 1600. Hopefully by that time there will be some 120Hz models available.


Additional Comments: Trying to shoot for a VERY quiet and cool build that will run everything I throw at it in the next 3-4 years. I'm an infrequent upgrader, so would rather pay a bit more upfront than buy new components in a year or two. Yes, it's not cost-efficient, but more time-efficient in my time frame of 3-4 years. Case / PSU / CPU and GPU coolers are overkill, but they will allow me to run all fans at low speeds and reduce noise. Generally prefer to pay more for quality components within reason.


Case:
SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT02B Black Aluminum / Steel Computer Case
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0030MHEJK/
$229.00 w/free shipping

Love the case, unbeatable for low noise and great cooling. Intake filters are a must. Highly recommended at SPCR (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1015-page5.html). Don't want the side window model, would rather have sound-dampening foam on that side panel too. Hopefully will come from Amazon with newer Silverstone AP181 fans. Will run all 3 of them on low to decrease noise. Will switch the top 120mm fan for a slower / quieter Akasa Apache PWM Fan (see under CPU cooler fans).

PSU:
CORSAIR Professional Series AX850 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003PJ6QW4/
$189.99, $179.99 after mail-in rebate w/free shipping

Fully modular, very quiet, fan doesn't spin at lower loads. Highly recommended at SPCR (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1073-page5.html). Reportedly fits FT02 better than the Seasonics, could remove the fan grille if it doesn't. Rated wattage is overkill, but the only other option with all the features is AX750, which is only $20 cheaper. Do I need SATA/power extension cables for HDD/SSD drives positioned in the front of FT02?


CPU:
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$329.99 w/free shipping

2500K will probably be fine too, but going with 2600K for longevity.


CPU Cooler:
Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002WB2LV6/
$62.99 w/free shipping

Overkill for 2600K, but better heat sink performance means the fans don't have to spin as fast and are quieter. Generous spacing between the fins helps too. Push fan might have clearance issues with RAM heat spreaders?


CPU Cooler fans:
Akasa 120mm x 25mm Apache Black Super Silent PWM Fan w/ Hydro Dynamic Bearings - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10345/
$15.95 x3

Prolimatech Megahalems Extra Fan Clips - 25mm Fan
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8890/
$2.99

Akasa PWM Splitter - Smart Fan Cable
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10350/
$7.95

Two fans for push-pull setup on CPU cooler and another one to replace the 120mm exhaust fan on FT02. All three will plug into the PWM splitter cable. They are each rated at 0.3A, so should be OK, since the PWM header is rated at 1A. Push fan might have clearance issues with RAM heat spreaders?


Mobo:
ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$219.99, $8.50 shipping
OR
ASUS P8P67 PRO LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$184.99 w/free shipping

Like the wider spacing of PCI slots and the 2nd PWM fan header on Sabertooth. (I want to run 4 PWM fans: 2 CPU cooler ones, 1 case exhaust and 1 GPU cooler, so the second PWM header will come in handy.) Don't mind giving up Pro's 2nd PCI slot and some external I/O connectors for those.


RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$249.99, $5.99 shipping
OR
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$249.99 w/free shipping

Yes, 16Gb is overkill. CL9 and 1.5V for stability. Am I going to have clearance problems between X series heat spreaders and the fans on the CPU cooler? If yes, will probably go with the second set, seems to have smaller heat spreaders.


GPU:
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004B8VL64/
$499.99 w/free shipping

Don't want to SLI/Xfire or use dual-GPU cards since WoW doesn't benefit from them. Noise and heat are also more of an issue with two cards. Will be using Thermalright Spitfire or Shaman aftermarket GPU cooler, so 2nd card won't fit anyway.


GPU Cooler:
Thermalright Shaman Eight Heatpipe Universal VGA Cooler
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12301/
$79.95

Not ideal for vertical mounting in FT02 due to resulting heat pipe orientation and not being a slot cooler with exhaust outside the case. Nevertheless a lot quieter than the stock cooler and quieter than Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme Plus (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12188/) according to SPCR (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1131-page5.html). Downside is it blocks 3 and maybe even 4 PCI slots on the mobo, only leaving the bottom PCIe 2.0 x4 and maybe PCI above it, so I'm limited to a sound card at most.

OR

Thermalright Spitfire Universal Copper VGA Cooler
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10236/
$74.95
PLUS
Thermalright GF-100 Spitfire Bolt-Thru Kit
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11055/
$9.99
PLUS
Thermalright TR TY-140 140mm x 160mm PWM Fan - 900R~1300PM
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11677/
$14.99 (OOS, so might get it from HeatsinkFactory.com)

This is a "make your own Shaman" kit. Spitfire has correct heat pipe orientation for vertical mounting in FT02. It won't outright block any PCI slots, but might have clearance problems with wider PCI cards. Will have to plug the fan into Sabertooth's 2nd PWM header, since it has a regular-sized PWM 4-pin connector and the one on the video card is a mini-4 pin. I'm already splitting the 1st PWM header to 3 Akasa Apaches.

Thermalright VRM-G2 VGA Voltage Regulator Cooler
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11666/
$34.95

Might be overkill for GTX 580's VRMs, but couldn't hurt. It's designed for GTX 480, but apparently can be easily modded to fit GTX 580 by removing one screw. Will use it in passive mode w/o a fan. Heat pipes are oriented correctly for vertical mounting in FT02 and it's compatible with the Spitfire in either orientation. Hopefully, it won't interfere with CPU cooler/fans.


SSD:
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$214.99, $194.99 after mail-in rebate and free shipping
OR
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NE5JCO/
$223.57 w/free shipping
OR
Wait until February.

Crucial RealSSD C300 2.5" 128GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) is faster, but doesn't seem to be such a good value at $264.99. Don't own any laptops I could ever put this into, so seems like buying the 3.5" version of Vertex 2 is a better deal. Any downsides to the integrated 3.5" enclosure? Not sure how well it will fit into the FT02 HD caddies. (It will go into 5.25" bay if I remove the caddies.) The 2.5" SSD will mount elegantly on the side of 5.25" cages using the adapter included with the FT02 case. Then again, maybe I shouldn't get an SSD right now and wait for the new generation coming out in February?


HDD:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99 w/free shipping
OR
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001U3S5S0/
$60.61 w/free shipping

F4 is a 5400 rpm drive, so slower than the 7200 rpm F3, but great as a quiet media storage drive. SSD will take care of the OS/programs. Great reviews at SPCR (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1076-page5.html). On the other hand, F3 is not much louder than F4, also gets great reviews at SPCR (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article843-page3.html). Smaller capacity, but better overflow alternative if I fill up 75% of the 120Gb SSD.

Akasa HDD Cooler / Anti-Vibration Suspension Set
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11757/
$10.99

Will probably remove the 3.5" HDD caddies and mount the HDD in 5.25" bay.


Optical drives:
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner - LightScribe Support - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99, $4.99 shipping

Quiet BD burner, good reviews on CDRLabs (http://www.cdrlabs.com/Reviews/lg-wh10ls30-super-multi-...).

LG Black GH24LS50 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$19.99, $4.99 Shipping

Quiet cheap second drive, can use as a second DVD burner in a pinch.


Sound card:
ASUS Xonar Essence ST 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Audio Card
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UVME88/
$214.16 w/free shipping
OR
ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Express x1 Interface 124 dB SNR / Headphone AMP Card
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OV789U/
$189.59 w/free shipping

Need a card with a good headphone amp to drive my Sennheiser HD600 headphones. The only other option is Auzentech Bravura, which has a lot of reliability issues. The PCI version of the Essence is actually better since it doesn't have the PCI/PCIe bridge chip and can be connected to an ASUS Xonar H6 daughter card, providing 7.1 speaker connectivity. PCIe version is more future-proof though, but I would have to use mobo's on-board audio for my Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 5.1 speakers.


TIM:
Arctic Cooling MX-4 Super High Performance Non-Conductive Thermal Compound
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12125/
$11.99

Non-conductive, no curing, easy to apply.


Wrist strap:
Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$6.99, $1.99 shipping


OS:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002NGJO4M/
$99.99 w/free shipping

Total: $2750ish.

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January 19, 2011 1:17:23 AM

TLDR Summary:

Case: SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT02B Black $229.00

PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series AX850 850W $179.99

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz $329.99

CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B $62.99

CPU Cooler fans: Akasa 120mm x 25mm Apache Black Super Silent PWM Fan $15.95 x3
Prolimatech Megahalems Extra Fan Clips $2.99
Akasa PWM Splitter - Smart Fan Cable $7.95

Mobo: ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 LGA 1155 Intel Motherboard $219.99 + $8.50
OR ASUS P8P67 PRO LGA 1155 Intel Motherboard $184.99

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $249.99 + $5.99
OR G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $249.99

GPU: EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 $499.99

GPU Cooler: Thermalright Shaman $79.95
OR Thermalright Spitfire $74.95
PLUS Thermalright GF-100 Spitfire Bolt-Thru Kit $9.99
PLUS Thermalright TR TY-140 140mm x 160mm PWM Fan $14.99

Thermalright VRM-G2 VGA Voltage Regulator Cooler $34.95

SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $214.99
OR OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $223.57
OR Wait until February.

HDD:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $99.99
OR SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $60.61

Akasa HDD Cooler / Anti-Vibration Suspension Set $10.99

Optical drives: LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner - LightScribe Support - Bulk - OEM $99.99 + $4.99
AND LG Black GH24LS50 SATA DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support - OEM $19.99 + $4.99

Sound card: ASUS Xonar Essence ST 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Audio Card $214.16
OR ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Express x1 Interface 124 dB SNR / Headphone AMP Card $189.59

TIM: Arctic Cooling MX-4 Super High Performance Non-Conductive Thermal Compound $11.99

Wrist strap: Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap $6.99 + $1.99 shipping

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM $99.99

Total: $2750ish.
January 20, 2011 7:13:43 AM

Not even a "you can play WoW on an $800 build?"

Mostly I just want to know the following:
Is the PSU fan going to align with the case opening? Is the PSU fan grille going to be pushing against the removable dust filter?
Are the RAM heat spreaders too tall and will conflict with the CPU push fan?
Spitfire will obviously be pointing towards the front of the case, not towards the CPU. It has the correct heat pipe orientation and won't have the issues that Shaman and Accelero Xtreme Plus have in this case. Am I going to be able to install a PCI sound card (ASUS Xonar Essence ST) in a slot under the heat sink or does it sit pretty close to the mobo?
The 480 VRM cooler should fit 580 if one screw is removed. Will it interfere with CPU cooler/fans?
PCI slot on Sabertooth P67 is the last one, is the sound card going to force me to use 90 degree SATA/power cables for the LG optical drives, especially the longer Bluray burner.
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January 20, 2011 10:00:33 AM

^ Hmm quite a high budget build and it is good to see that you have extensively given reasons for the parts that you have chosen,...

Some suggestions -
PSU - IMO even the Seasonic X650W would be a very good option if you are sure that you will not go SLI in the future,... But if there might be a possibility, then the 750W or the 850W preferably for GTX 580 SLI,...

RAM - Frankly no point in wasting money on 16GB kit,...unless you want to do it for bragging rights,... Also that RAM cooler would only add up to the noise,...
Get this 8GB kit, a very good 1333MHz CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Fans - Silent high performance fans, only 1 name flashes my mind -
Noctua - But if you can live with that color scheme i.e.,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE - It is one of my favorite case, and as your budget allows it, go for it,...

GPU Cooler - The Shaman no doubt is a very good performer both in temps and noise level, but you would have to double check that it fits that case, go to the Silverstone or Thermalright forums, they would have a better idea on that also post in our forums under the CPU and cooling section...
January 20, 2011 11:43:03 AM

Thanks for your reply, gkay09.

PSU: GTX 580 SLI is a very remote possibility due to spatial limitations of mounting two Spitfire coolers in FT02 case. Nevertheless, I think PSU is one of the easiest to justify overkill areas. Reportedly, Seasonics don't fit very well into this case because of their non-removable raised fan grille. Corsairs do, but there's no AX series unit rated at 650W, so AX750 and AX850 are my only choices. Not a big price difference between the two, so why limit myself if there's even a remote possibility I'll need the extra 100W.

RAM: There's no RAM cooler in those 16Gb kits. I was just talking about the aluminum RAM heat spreaders hindering the mounting of the push fan on the CPU cooler. 16Gb is a bit too much, but then again so was 2Gb in 2002 when I bought my current computer, and it's one of the few things that still makes it run OK. I'm an infrequent upgrader, so probably a good idea to front-load.

Fans: There's a lot of quiet well-performing fans out there, not just Noctuas. Akasa Apache is very attractive as a PWM fan, since I don't want to deal with a separate fan controller.

GPU Cooler: I think I'm leaning towards the Spitfire, since it has the correct orientation of heat pipes for vertical mounting in FT02. Also it doesn't just outright block the 3 PCI slots below the video card like the Shaman does. Shaman's performance drops a lot when mounted vertically (http://en.expreview.com/2010/11/15/90%C2%B0-rotationhow-to-install-heatpipe-cooler/11843.html/5). Great suggestion about posting in manufacturers' forums, will do that today.
January 30, 2011 11:31:17 AM

The monologue thread lives on.

Takeaway points:
1) Thermalright Spitfire won't fit in FT-02 in either orientation if you have 180mm optical drives and a tower CPU cooler. Went with a Thermalright Shaman and a modded (broke off one screw) Thermalright VRM-G2 instead.
2) G.Skill Ripjaws X series heat spreaders are too tall to have a push fan on the Thermalright Silver Arrow and still be able to close the side panel. I have the fans in a pull-pull configuration, does not seem to be noisier.
3) Didn't try the Thermalright Archon, since the Silver Arrow is around 5mm shorter and already touches the side panel foam.
4) Asus Sabertooth P67 has its only PCI slot in the last position making a PCI sound card a tight fit even with 90 deg SATA cables. Went with Asus P67 Deluxe instead.

Here's the final config after some tweaking:
Case: Silverstone FT02B Black, replaced 120mm exhaust fan with an Akasa Apache PWM fan.
PSU: Corsair AX850
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow with its two TY-140 fans and the Akasa Apache case exhaust fan hooked up to the mobo's PWM connector via an Akasa PWM splitter.
Mobo: Asus P8P67 Deluxe
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB DDR3 1600 CL9
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 580
GPU Cooler: Thermalright Shaman and passive Thermalright VRM-G2
SSD: Waiting.
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM suspended upside down (PCB up) in a NoiseMagic NoVibes III.
Optical drives: LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner and LG GH24LS50 DVD Burner
Sound card: ASUS Xonar Essence ST
TIM: Arctic Cooling MX-4
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM

Silver Arrow and Shaman take up most of the case interior with their combined three TY-140s and 3.5 heatsink fin banks if you count VRM-G2 for half. At stock speeds CPU idles around room temp, at full load goes to 38C. GPU idles at 29C, at full load goes to 50C. The whole rig is barely audible when idle and very inoffensive at full load. Essence ST is driving my Sennheiser HD600s very well, no need for a separate headphone amp.
March 18, 2011 11:14:13 AM

Hello Kisakuku,

I am due for to replace my 2003 Pentium 4 system soon and am thinking of a similar build to yours. I am thinking of using a Seasonic X-750 rather than your PSU (I notice that you had problems with the AX850 making noise in another thread?). I will also prolly not have a hdd and use a 256 Gb C300 instead.

With the knowledge that you have gained from having built and used your new system, would you do anything differently if you started again?

Also, when idle I guess the AP181s are the biggest noise source (even when on Low). I noticed in another thread that you are looking into a FC. I would be interested to know which one you get (Lamptron Touch?), how it works out, and how the speed of the APs affects the temps and noise in the rest of the case. You have such good cooling, I guess you could turn them right down or off and reduce the overall noise of the case while keeping good temps?

When loaded, how noisy is the system? I guess the Shaman is the main noise source? What would you need to do to reduce noise while keeping reasonable performance. If you wanted to sacrafice some performance for a noise reduction, would it be sensible to change the graphics card to something like a 460?

Donald



March 18, 2011 4:56:55 PM

I guess there's no hiding from google :sarcastic: 

I swapped my Corsair AX850 for another unit through Amazon, no noticeable capacitor whine in the replacement. Nothing against the Seasonics, but I'm very happy with my Corsair now. I think the Corsair lifetime no questions asked warranty has a better reputation though. If you're an SPCR anti-noise freak like me, I would definitely go with Seasonic X-750 / X-850 or Corsair AX750 / AX850 since all of them cool passively until around half the maximum load. I've actually never seen the fans on either of my AX850s spin and I know they are not caught on the wiring, since I was able to move them manually. From the noise point of view the 850 versions might be better than the 750s, as the fan won't spin until a slightly higher load.

I can barely hear the random seek noise of my Samsung Spinpoint F3 1Tb soft-mounted on a NoiseMagic NoVibes III. I wouldn't give up on larger HDD storage just due to noise. BTW, C400s and other next-gen SSDs are coming out at some point this spring.

I'm very happy with the build, really doubt I would have done anything differently. I have been entertaining the idea of trying out a Thermalright Archon instead of a Silver Arrow as a CPU cooler, but it seems I will have clearance problems in an FT02 case without a side window. They are pretty much equivalent in terms of performance and noise anyway.

AP181s are indeed the loudest build component at idle. My Lamptron Touch is coming today, so I'll experiment with running them below the 700 rpm low setting. I doubt it will affect the temperatures much. Another way of turning them down is connecting them to the CHA_FAN headers on the motherboard (there's two of them on Asus P8P67 Deluxe, so two AP181's would have to be connected to one header via a splitter) and controlling the voltage through BIOS and Asus Fan Xpert.

Under load the system will be as loud as you want it to be. The two 140mm TY-140 fans on the Silver Arrow and the 120mm Akasa Apache case exhaust fan are controlled via Fan Xpert, the TY140 on the Shaman is connected to the mini-PWM header on GTX 580 through an adapter and controlled via MSI Afterburner. In both programs you can set your own rpm vs temp curves.

I think the temperatures I listed in a previous post were wildly off because Speedfan wasn't compatible with the new Asus P67 mobos. Fan Xpert / Afterburner say that both CPU and GPU idle at 30-31C and get to 50-51C in Prime95 / Furmark with fans spinning at around 1000-1100 rpm. If you keep them down to 850-900 rpm, the load temps get to around 55C, not that big of a difference and quite a bit less noise. All of this is with AP181s at 700rpm, the low setting.

The Shaman isn't any more of a noise source than the Silver Arrow, it's perfectly capable of adequately cooling the GTX 580 GPU even at 850rpm, so I wouldn't downgrade to a 460 because of it. The whole point of a good aftermarket video cooler is that you don't have to sacrifice performance to keep the noise and temperature down.

Feel free to ask any more questions here and check out other random threads where I've posted.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1429251&page=117
http://www.overclock.net/computer-cases/408195-silverst...
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23...

March 18, 2011 7:25:18 PM

I must be missing something, but that build doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Why go with a $200+ mobo meant for SLI when a simple $125 Asrock Pro 3 will get you to 4.5ghz or better and do it for cheaper not to mention it's a single PCI-E slot board. Same with that psu. 850w for a single 580 ?
March 18, 2011 7:58:13 PM

Why_Me said:
I must be missing something, but that build doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Why go with a $200+ mobo meant for SLI when a simple $125 Asrock Pro 3 will get you to 4.5ghz or better and do it for cheaper not to mention it's a single PCI-E slot board. Same with that psu. 850w for a single 580 ?


This was clearly not a value-oriented build. P8P67 Deluxe has some nice extras like 16+2 VRM, Realtek ALC889 on-board audio, front panel USB 3.0 box and a screw-on Mosfet heatsink. Having an option to SLI in the future is also an advantage. Corsair AX850 PSU was chosen from the low noise standpoint.
March 18, 2011 8:08:38 PM

Kisakuku said:
This was clearly not a value-oriented build. P8P67 Deluxe has some nice extras like 16+2 VRM, Realtek ALC889 on-board audio, front panel USB 3.0 box and a screw-on Mosfet heatsink. Having an option to SLI in the future is also an advantage. Corsair AX850 PSU was chosen from the low noise standpoint.

If that's the case I guess you can cross that $200 sound card off your list, and seeing how your considering SLI with 580's I would size up to a 1000w psu so you have some headroom.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/307253-31-3000-gaming <----- That's a $3,000 build I posted earlier today that includes a 240gb REVO drive.
March 18, 2011 8:26:24 PM

Why_Me said:
If that's the case I guess you can cross that $200 sound card off your list, and seeing how your considering SLI with 580's I would size up to a 1000w psu so you have some headroom.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/307253-31-3000-gaming <----- That's a $3,000 build I posted earlier today that includes a 240gb REVO drive.


The $200 sound card does not support 7.1 analog output, it's a headphone / stereo speakers-oriented card. On-board sound is more than good enough for gaming on my 5.1 Klipsches.

I don't think you've noticed this is a resurrected thread, the build has been done for couple months already.

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