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First time builder - Pls review my gaming rig.

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January 19, 2011 10:42:01 PM

Hello Everyone,
Ok this is the 1st time I ever put together my OWN gaming system. While I am not a hardcore gamer, I wanted a decent system for gaming and watching movies. The games I mostly play are WoW, SCII, Call of Duty and Battlefield. After doing some research (and within my budget) this is what I came up with. Pls give feedback on my new rig.

Budget is $750-$800
MTHBD: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
CPU: AMD Phenom II x 4 965 BE
Cooler: COOLMASTER Hyper 212+
MEM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
VIDEO: ASUS Radeon HD 6850 EAH6850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Video Card with Eyefinity ASUS EAH6850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
OPTICAL:: Lite-On 24X DVD/Writer iHAS424-98 Lightscribe
POWER: ANTEC EA 650 Watt PS
CASE: ANTEC 300 Illusion
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...

Two questions I do have, 1) how is the Memory I selected for my board 2) And since I am not a hardcore gamer. Would you go with the Graphics card listed or go with the ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB?
Thanks
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a b 4 Gaming
January 19, 2011 11:35:08 PM

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January 20, 2011 12:18:35 AM

I agree with the suggestion of the 1TB Samsung Spin point Drive. It is a better price, has more storage, and is a really good drive.

Also I would highly suggest getting a Core i-5 Sandy Bridge processor over any AMD Phenom II quad core. With intel's new 3.7GHz turboboost I think you would almost have to spring for it at $200.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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January 20, 2011 4:11:07 AM

Why_Me said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99 FREE SHIPPING
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $89.99 FREE SHIPPING $69.99 after mail-in rebate card
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $334.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $42.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209.99 FREE SHIPPING $179.99 after mail-in rebate card
ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99 FREE SHIPPING $15 off with promo code HARDOCP112C, ends 1/19
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Total: $814.92 *not including shipping, promo codes, rebates, etc...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99 FREE SHIPPING
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Univ... $27.96 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus


Thanks for reply but I prefer to stick with AMD because it's cheaper and I would rather have a better Graphics card.
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January 20, 2011 4:12:54 AM

rwayne said:
I agree with the suggestion of the 1TB Samsung Spin point Drive. It is a better price, has more storage, and is a really good drive.

Also I would highly suggest getting a Core i-5 Sandy Bridge processor over any AMD Phenom II quad core. With intel's new 3.7GHz turboboost I think you would almost have to spring for it at $200.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Definitely, Will get the 1TB Samsung Spin Point Drive.
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January 20, 2011 5:04:53 AM

I would say stick with the AMD as well, however the quad core will soon be an requirement instead of recommended to run furture games. Would go with the hexi core instead.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also check out canyourunit.com to rate your current system so you will have a better picuture on what you will need to run the lastest games.
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January 20, 2011 8:57:44 AM

bhalton26 said:
I would say stick with the AMD as well, however the quad core will soon be an requirement instead of recommended to run furture games. Would go with the hexi core instead.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also check out canyourunit.com to rate your current system so you will have a better picuture on what you will need to run the lastest games.



Yeah I was thinking about upgrading to the X6 1055. It's only $15 more than the 965 BE and still fits within my budget.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 20, 2011 3:07:46 PM

AMD is fine for low-end home and office PCs, but once you get around $800, AMD has nothing that can touch Sandy Bridge, or even come close. The HD5850 that Why_Me listed is superior to the HD6850 you chose; blame AMD's naming scheme, but the HD6850 is NOT a step up from the HD5850. For whatever reason, some of your games play better on nVidia cards. You may be entirely satisfied with a 1GB GTX460, especially if you don't insist that every setting be maxed. It is comparable in performance to the HD6850. Get the 1GB version rather than 768MB; not so much for the extra RAM but for the wider data path, 256bit vs. 192bit.
If you are bound and determined to buy AMD, wait for Bulldozer. Even if it doesn't match Sandy Bridge, 1) it might; 2) it will offer an upgrade path; 3) it will outperform current AMD offerings.
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January 20, 2011 3:19:32 PM

Whoah! AMD Phenom II X4 is reaching the end of it's life dude!

You either change this to an Intel build and use the new Sandybrige series which came out like last week!
OR
If you insist on AMD which doesn't look like it has a bright future ahead of it as Intel just released a near equivalent to it's own $1000 processor for $300!

I would wait for AMD's new processor line, to date there is no confirmed release date but AMD is screwed man!

You HAVE TO get a Sandybrige build!

Sandybrige beats AMD's processors, it's cheaper than AMD's processors in terms of being the best "bang for the buck" and the socket 1155 just came out so it will offer an upgrade path in the future just like jtt283 said.

You will absolutely regret your AMD build when you realize the awe of Sandybrige...
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January 20, 2011 5:06:12 PM

I already own a AMD Phenom II 965x4 BE and I can tell you if I was buying today I would definitely get a Sandy Bridge Processor. The 965x4 is no longer the best value out there. Intel has more Bang for the Buck in this market segment right now than anything AMD can currently offer.

On another note....The Nvidia GTX560 is being released next Tues, Jan 25th. You may want to wait another 2 weeks before you buy.
1.) It will allow you to add to your budget
2.) The release of the GTX560 will most likely drive down the price of the other cards below it for both ATI and Nvidia.

Ram is so dirt cheap right now you may want to consider 8 gigs over 4.
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January 20, 2011 8:58:03 PM

Phenom II is no longer on my radar for a new high performance build. It will either be Sandy Bridge or Bulldozer, depending on Bulldozer's benchmarks when they finally come out.
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January 26, 2011 3:09:41 AM

The AM3+ socket soon comes out!
You are totally wasting your money!
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a b 4 Gaming
January 26, 2011 8:19:51 AM

Actually, he isn't. The fact remains that just because Sandy Bridge is the fastest processor you can get now doesn't mean that suddenly games can't be played and enjoyed using an Athlon II X3. That isn't likely to change in the foreseeable future.
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January 26, 2011 8:31:49 AM

Here are some posts from other threads that I've answered:

" AMD is gonna get totally screwed if:

The new AM3+ processors can't compete with Intel's performance, because they would have to go extremely cheap as now Intel sells its processors that beat AMD's at a very low price.

OR

If they planned on prices that compared to the previous generation i3/i5/i7, because now they are less than half the price.
The Phenom II X6 1090T is $230, and the i7 2600k, almost double the performance is $320.

If they planned on a processor that beats the X6, they probably planned for a price around $320 so that it would be much cheaper than the 980x,

NOW an Intel equivalent to its own 980x is available for that price so...

AMD RiP"


AND

"...Buying AMD would save you money NOW but waste your money later because the AM3 socket is reaching the end of it's life giving you little path for upgrades in the future which means you would have to go for a whole new build instead of an upgrade.

Buying Intel now would go over your budget a bit but would save you money in the future as you would not need to upgrade soon having the latest processors and a socket (1155) that came out a bit over a week ago. When you decide to upgrade you won't need to change the motherboard which is a pain in the ass, just quick switch your graphics, processor and RAM

This is why an Intel build will be a smarter choice; why ruin a chance to buy a motherboard with a socket that just came out.

AMD is very soon releasing it's new 32nm processor bulldozing the AM3 socket.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 26, 2011 8:49:46 AM

I am not suggesting that Intel is not "vastly superior" to AMD. I am stating that an AMD processor remains "good enough" for any game out there.
I would not buy AMD today unless my budget were severely constrained, BUT, if I was limited to AMD, I know I could still play any game.
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January 26, 2011 9:40:53 AM

Quote:
Here are some posts from other threads that I've answered:

" AMD is gonna get totally screwed if:

The new AM3+ processors can't compete with Intel's performance, because they would have to go extremely cheap as now Intel sells its processors that beat AMD's at a very low price.

OR

If they planned on prices that compared to the previous generation i3/i5/i7, because now they are less than half the price.
The Phenom II X6 1090T is $230, and the i7 2600k, almost double the performance is $320.

If they planned on a processor that beats the X6, they probably planned for a price around $320 so that it would be much cheaper than the 980x,

NOW an Intel equivalent to its own 980x is available for that price so...

AMD RiP"


AND

"...Buying AMD would save you money NOW but waste your money later because the AM3 socket is reaching the end of it's life giving you little path for upgrades in the future which means you would have to go for a whole new build instead of an upgrade.

Buying Intel now would go over your budget a bit but would save you money in the future as you would not need to upgrade soon having the latest processors and a socket (1155) that came out a bit over a week ago. When you decide to upgrade you won't need to change the motherboard which is a pain in the ass, just quick switch your graphics, processor and RAM

This is why an Intel build will be a smarter choice; why ruin a chance to buy a motherboard with a socket that just came out.

AMD is very soon releasing it's new 32nm processor bulldozing the AM3 socket.
"


MN96, I appreciate your concern. But I need a system now and while Intels Sandy Bridge system is better than AMD's. The AMD system fits my budget. And the AMD3+ Bulldozer configuration probably won't be out for another 5-6 months. Which means I wouldn't be upgrading for at least a year or year and half. And then I probably would only have to replace my mthbd and maybe the X6 processor if not supported.

Here is my final build
MTHBD: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz
Cooler: COOLMASTER Hyper 212+
MEM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
VIDEO: ASUS EAH6850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
- It's temporarily out of stock. ETA 1/31/11 - I may hold out for 2 weeks hoping the prices will come down by then. And I can get something better.
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB ($55)

OPTICAL:: Lite-On 24X DVD/Writer iHAS424-98 Lightscribe

POWER: ANTEC EA 650 Watt PS
CASE: ANTEC 300 Illusion
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January 26, 2011 10:01:33 AM

cthunder067 said:
MN96, I appreciate your concern. But I need a system now and while Intels Sandy Bridge system is better than AMD's. The AMD system fits my budget. And the AMD3+ Bulldozer configuration probably won't be out for another 5-6 months. Which means I wouldn't be upgrading for at least a year or year and half. And then I probably would only have to replace my mthbd and maybe the X6 processor if not supported.

Here is my final build
MTHBD: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz
Cooler: COOLMASTER Hyper 212+
MEM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
VIDEO: ASUS EAH6850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
- It's temporarily out of stock. ETA 1/31/11 - I may hold out for 2 weeks hoping the prices will come down by then. And I can get something better.
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB ($55)

OPTICAL:: Lite-On 24X DVD/Writer iHAS424-98 Lightscribe

POWER: ANTEC EA 650 Watt PS
CASE: ANTEC 300 Illusion

Out of curiosity...what is the final price for that build ?
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January 26, 2011 10:34:06 AM

Why_Me said:
Out of curiosity...what is the final price for that build ?


Comes to 788.25 with Shipping and Taxes - Exlcuding Rebates (70.00 in rebates)
(MTHBD, HD and Cooler + Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound Bought from Amazon)
Haven't purchased the Graphics Card, it's out of stock until 1/31/11. The price is included in the total, could be cheaper if the price comes down. Oh and the rebates would probably drop $50.00 if I don't buy the card by the 31st.
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January 26, 2011 10:51:40 AM

cthunder067 said:
Comes to 788.25 with Shipping and Taxes - Exlcuding Rebates (70.00 in rebates)
(MTHBD, HD and Cooler + Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound Bought from Amazon)
Haven't purchased the Graphics Card, it's out of stock until 1/31/11. The price is included in the total, could be cheaper if the price comes down. Oh and the rebates would probably drop $50.00 if I don't buy the card by the 31st.

Not bad...that's some pretty thrifty shopping :) 
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January 26, 2011 12:54:04 PM

Well, then go for it and see how it goes, let us know if you have any problem.
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January 26, 2011 6:06:09 PM

Thanks will do :D 
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a b 4 Gaming
January 26, 2011 9:31:27 PM

Good deal. A higher clocked X4 may be better for games than a X6, but I don't think it will make a significant difference, especially for the price you're paying. Have fun.
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January 26, 2011 10:36:09 PM

Onus said:
Good deal. A higher clocked X4 may be better for games than a X6, but I don't think it will make a significant difference, especially for the price you're paying. Have fun.


Some games can actually benefit from 6 cores. Especially MMOs where the CPU has to do a lot of the calculations of the number of players and who goes where, when and why and how fast.

I can't quote any reports at the moment but I have read a few.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 26, 2011 10:45:00 PM

I'd love to try a MMO that is actually programmed to use 6 cores. There is just so much AI they could do [better] with more cores.
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January 26, 2011 11:01:54 PM

I have been hearing a lot of good things about an MMO coming out called RIFT. I signed up tonight for the BETA.

www.riftgame.com
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a b 4 Gaming
January 27, 2011 12:29:08 AM

Hmmm, that game looks very interesting, but it appears it will use a subscription model. Unless the price isn't much more than a magazine subscription, I'm not sure I'd want to get too into it. They haven't set the price yet.
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January 27, 2011 1:06:06 AM

Onus said:
Hmmm, that game looks very interesting, but it appears it will use a subscription model. Unless the price isn't much more than a magazine subscription, I'm not sure I'd want to get too into it. They haven't set the price yet.



Yeah the game dos look good. But I already play WoW and that is subscription based and is a huge time sink. Haha, I have to set my alarm to remind me how long I have been on. :p 
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January 28, 2011 12:06:15 AM

Life is a big time sink....

But Yeah I know what you mean. WOW can be very addicting and I felt I have spent way too much time on it at times.
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January 28, 2011 8:22:13 AM

OMG, why do I see people going for such high end builds for WoW when It can run on a P4!
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January 28, 2011 12:15:32 PM

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OMG, why do I see people going for such high end builds for WoW when It can run on a P4!


High End? My build is high end?

MTHBD: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz
Cooler: COOLMASTER Hyper 212+
MEM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
VIDEO: ASUS EAH6850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
- It's temporarily out of stock. ETA 1/31/11 - I may hold out for 2 weeks hoping the prices will come down by then. And I can get something better.
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB ($55)

OPTICAL:: Lite-On 24X DVD/Writer iHAS424-98 Lightscribe

POWER: ANTEC EA 650 Watt PS
CASE: ANTEC 300 Illusion

Assuming you are talking to me. If you recall from my opening post I stated I play other games besides WoW and since my system died it was time to upgrade. My no means do I consider this a high end system.

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January 28, 2011 1:14:48 PM

I'm not talking to you, lol, I'm just talking in general, not you, I mean if you just go to forums page and see the number of people going for SLi and Crossfire for WoW.
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January 28, 2011 5:34:09 PM

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I'm not talking to you, lol, I'm just talking in general, not you, I mean if you just go to forums page and see the number of people going for SLi and Crossfire for WoW.


ahh Gotcha, :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
January 28, 2011 6:54:13 PM

Comparatively speaking, yes that is an extremely high end system. I suspect the vast majority of people with PCs in their homes are using IGPs, and dual-core CPUs still outnumber all others.
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January 28, 2011 7:21:35 PM

Onus said:
Comparatively speaking, yes that is an extremely high end system. I suspect the vast majority of people with PCs in their homes are using IGPs, and dual-core CPUs still outnumber all others.


:o  really? I thought this was a mid range system. Call me :pt1cable: 
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a b 4 Gaming
January 28, 2011 8:54:20 PM

There may be a fair number of people around HERE (and I'm not one of them) with more capable systems, but I'm sure well less than 25%. Six-core CPU, latest generation GPU; looks pretty high-end to me...
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January 29, 2011 7:22:58 AM

I'm running a Pentium D and I'm proud :) 
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January 31, 2011 9:33:38 PM

Best answer selected by cthunder067.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 31, 2011 9:56:11 PM

Thanks. Before buying, check out the news on the chipset bug affecting Sandy Bridge. Looks like it will be April before it may be safe to buy SB.
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January 31, 2011 10:03:24 PM

Haha, I just finished reading it :) 
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February 23, 2012 8:49:26 PM

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