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Worth the upgrade? Athlon II X4 630 >> Phenom II X4 965

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April 17, 2011 3:13:18 AM

current: AMD Athlon II X4 640

upgrading to: Phenom II X4 965

ok so I know it will obviously be faster

my question is: will the extra speed be worth the upgrade?


thanks

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April 17, 2011 3:18:39 AM

kbassi88 said:
current: AMD Athlon II X4 640

upgrading to: Phenom II X4 965

ok so I know it will obviously be faster

my question is: will the extra speed be worth the upgrade?


thanks

What games will you be playing? The 956 is significantly faster, but if you play games that don't need that much power, don't upgrade. Also, do you plan on OCing?
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April 17, 2011 3:31:50 AM

Unless you are willing to push that 965 above 4Ghz, not really. With BD out in about two months, I would suggest you to wait and see.

For now, OCIng that 640 is a pretty good choice.
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April 17, 2011 3:34:23 AM

Well, I asked if was going to OC because if he would, the 965 is a waste. The 955 C3 is he exact same chip with a .2Ghz lower clock.
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April 17, 2011 3:39:54 AM

HostileDonut said:
Well, I asked if was going to OC because if he would, the 965 is a waste. The 955 C3 is he exact same chip with a .2Ghz lower clock.

Well, ATM its also the same price on newegg. lol
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April 17, 2011 3:52:33 AM

i play COD, bad company 2, CSS, crysis 2 (all on high) currently

i don't plan on OCing

and i heard someone say something about new CPUs from AMD, i am willing to wait

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April 17, 2011 3:57:09 AM

With the new Bulldozer CPUs you will need a new motherboard to take advantage of all the extras the CPU has to offer. I would wait if you have the money though. Also, it might make other CPU prices drop. I would recommend grabbing a 955 BE and up the multiplier once and get the speed of a 965.
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April 17, 2011 4:25:25 AM

so the new ones don't support AM3?
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April 17, 2011 4:31:25 AM

They may, but will likely have some power-controlling features cut.
What Mobo do you have?
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April 17, 2011 4:33:15 AM

ASUS M4A77TD
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April 17, 2011 4:33:26 AM

kbassi88 said:
so the new ones don't support AM3?

The new AM3+ motherboard will support AM3, but AM3 won't support AM3+.
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April 17, 2011 4:39:32 AM

hmm, i see

i guess the phenom X6s will be the best cpus i can get before having to upgrade the mobo

also can you tell me: that mobo supports ddr 1800 (OC), I current have DDR 1333 with a athlon 630 X4, apprently i can't go to 1800 becuase of the CPU limiting it?
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April 17, 2011 10:34:54 PM

HostileDonut said:
Yes, that is true, but you will be missing features of BD when you use an AM3 board. I meant a FULL support of AM3+ CPUs with ALL of the features that come along. Gigabyte is already out with a true AM3+ board though.


:non: 

You don't know that ... and that is not what you said:

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The new AM3+ motherboard will support AM3, but AM3 won't support AM3+.

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April 17, 2011 11:18:51 PM

Wisecracker said:
:non: 

You don't know that ... and that is not what you said:

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The new AM3+ motherboard will support AM3, but AM3 won't support AM3+.

Okay, you got me. There will not be much point buying AM3+ and using an AM3 motherboard though. I wouldn't do it.
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April 19, 2011 9:01:11 AM

HostileDonut said:
Okay, you got me. There will not be much point buying AM3+ and using an AM3 motherboard though. I wouldn't do it.


No worries.

I suspect (nobody really knows) that performance gains will be minimal from AM3 to AM3+ --- probably won't see much from the south bridge, or north bridge for that matter. Something like the MSI 890FXA-GD65 AM3 AMD 890FX already has 42 PCIe lanes off the north bridge.

It pretty much comes down to "Turbo2" and power-gating. I put rigs to sleep after 5 minutes of idle so power-gating of processor modules is of little concern to me. Turbo is interesting but most folks will disable it if over-clocking, though we could see some crazy refinements.

Maybe AM3+ will bring a 4.6GHz+ 'Turbo'ed' dual-core module with others powered-down. In practice it has already been done with a Thuban by shutting down 4 cores and bumping the multiplier to 23x --- and that is essentially what Turbo does by adding additional P-States.

AMD might have themselves a wiener ;) 
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