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January 20, 2011 5:02:04 PM

Hi friends. I call you friends, because I really respect you and your knowledge of pc's. This has been a long time coming, but I'm about to order all my parts for my pc. Just wanted to run it past you guys, to see if I omitted, or maybe I should change something.


Case: Coolermaster Storm Sniper

Fan: Noctua NH-D14

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

Hard drives: 2 X Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video card: XFX HD-597A-CNB9 Radeon HD 5970 Black Edition..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: 4 X CORSAIR XMS 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD writer: 1 X HP 24X Multiformat DVD Burner
1 X LG UH08

Power Supply: XION 1000 watt

If you can think of anything I may have forgotten, or if you think I need to change something, please let me know.

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January 20, 2011 5:22:36 PM

Hey there bigdog3421,

Looking over your build just have a few questions. Are you considering doing allot of over clocking? If not, then the Noctua fan may not be needed which can save you about $90, the stock fan for the AMD Phenom II X4 970 is pretty good.

The choice in video card being the XFX Radeon 5970 Black Edition you may want to consider a GeForce GTX 580 which is much cheaper and benchmarks faster as seen here: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

And can be purchased here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As well are you sure you need 16GB of memory, what are you planning on doing with this rig? Up to you though ;) 

You may also get somebody saying the XION 1000 watt power supply is not a very good choice in a power supply company, but I would be contradicting myself to say so as I am currently using an XION 800 Watt power supply no problems once so ever on my AMD Phenom II X4 955 system. You probably do not need 100Watts as well. So I'll post some other considerations just in case:

Coolermaster 800W modular:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic 750W Modular:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hope this helps bigdog3421, good luck with your build!
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January 20, 2011 5:35:19 PM

5970 at $715 is absolutely ridiculous, it should be priced close to 500, so either find one at that price or get a gtx580, which will be quite close in performance but it'll run cooler and with less noise.

I'm not a fan of premium priced motherboards, It won't make your system any faster or more stable than any 100-ish motherboard from a respectable brand, and you could expend the money on a SSD, even more graphic horsepower or cooling.
This'll do just as good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Instead of getting a phenom ii 970 I'd recommend going for 955 and just a quick bump on the multi with no skill needed will put it on par with the 970 as they're exactly the same chip, but AMD just set the multi a little bit higher on the 970 and raise the price, and save you 40$

For the RAM I'd recommend going for one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... anything above 4gb is unnecessary if you're just gaming, 8gb is justified if you do video or 3d editing and massive multitasking, 16gb is ridiculous even for a 24/7 workstation, even more if you're primarily gaming, don't waste your money like that.

Everything else is good like it is, it'll be a beast.

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January 20, 2011 5:43:46 PM

bloodymoth said:
Hey there bigdog3421,

Looking over your build just have a few questions. Are you considering doing allot of over clocking? If not, then the Noctua fan may not be needed which can save you about $90, the stock fan for the AMD Phenom II X4 970 is pretty good.

The choice in video card being the XFX Radeon 5970 Black Edition you may want to consider a GeForce GTX 580 which is much cheaper and benchmarks faster as seen here: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

And can be purchased here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As well are you sure you need 16GB of memory, what are you planning on doing with this rig? Up to you though ;) 

You may also get somebody saying the XION 1000 watt power supply is not a very good choice in a power supply company, but I would be contradicting myself to say so as I am currently using an XION 800 Watt power supply no problems once so ever on my AMD Phenom II X4 955 system. You probably do not need 100Watts as well. So I'll post some other considerations just in case:

Coolermaster 800W modular:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic 750W Modular:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hope this helps bigdog3421, good luck with your build!





1..Yes, I plan to do a lot of overclocking.

2.. I don't build pc's on a regular basis anymore, and I 'd like this one to last a bout 3 or 4 years. That's why I'm getting the 5970.

3.. Since my motherboard supports 16 GB of RAM, I figured I'd just fill it up, and forget about it.

4.. As far as what I'm doing.....If I can think of it, I want to do it...lol

I wasn't being funny. I really do appreciate your response, but how often does a person get to build his or her "Dream System"?
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January 20, 2011 5:46:29 PM

If you have the cash and don't care about price/performance then go for it.
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January 20, 2011 6:34:54 PM

wiinippongamer said:
If you have the cash and don't care about price/performance then go for it.



The price, I don't care about...now the performance, that's another issue. Care to shed some light?
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January 20, 2011 6:42:21 PM

You'd be better off putting a single gtx580 for about the same performance and $200 less, then you could add a second one later down the road, now if you want to spend those $700 on graphics anyway you could get 2 6970s which would destroy any of the other cards I mentioned.
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January 20, 2011 6:43:53 PM

bigdog3421 said:
1..Yes, I plan to do a lot of overclocking.

2.. I don't build pc's on a regular basis anymore, and I 'd like this one to last a bout 3 or 4 years. That's why I'm getting the 5970.

3.. Since my motherboard supports 16 GB of RAM, I figured I'd just fill it up, and forget about it.

4.. As far as what I'm doing.....If I can think of it, I want to do it...lol

I wasn't being funny. I really do appreciate your response, but how often does a person get to build his or her "Dream System"?



As for #2, the only thing is that the 5970, being yes a good card is far overpriced as wiinippongamer pointed out, and you get just as good if not better performance from a GTX 580 priced only at $500 compared to the $700 odd dollars for the 5970.

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January 20, 2011 8:21:30 PM

bloodymoth said:
As for #2, the only thing is that the 5970, being yes a good card is far overpriced as wiinippongamer pointed out, and you get just as good if not better performance from a GTX 580 priced only at $500 compared to the $700 odd dollars for the 5970.





One more question..I know what can happen if I get a power supply that isn't enough..but what if I get a power supply that's too much?
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January 20, 2011 8:28:42 PM

You'd be wasting even more money, aside from that nothing really.
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January 20, 2011 8:43:06 PM

bigdog3421 said:
One more question..I know what can happen if I get a power supply that isn't enough..but what if I get a power supply that's too much?


Yeah nothing will happen with a high wattage, so having more wattage does not necessarily hurt anything.
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January 20, 2011 8:51:09 PM

That would be a great system....maybe 16 months ago

The Noc is a good cooler..... but it's not in the top ten, almost all of which are cheaper ....To my mind, if ya gonna pay that much, ya deserve a "Top Performer" off the list here:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

What are ya thinking RAID is going to do for you ? If it's not huge database access, movie editing or something else that gains from RAID, then dump it. Gaming BTW is not one of those. Get a 1 TB HD and an SSD.

GFX, if ya willing to spend $600 an an old 5970, I'd suggest twin 570's which will toast that for $100 more.

RAM - Ya wanna but RAM in matched sets, not buy 4 separate sticks and hope they sync togeteher.....no more than 8 GB for a gaming box.

MoBo / CPU - ya can't touch the Sandy Bridge stuff with AMD.

Try this as an alternate:

Full Tower System ($1595): - One 570 now w/ SSD and add another 570 when new games of XMas 2011 or 2012 start to give it a run for its money.

Case - $140 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fans - Later - Antec 120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $120 - Antec CP850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $490 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $100 - 2 x (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $370 - EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $55 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - 195 - OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $80 - ASUS BR Model BC-08B1LT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mid Tower System ($1350)

Case - $100 - Coolermaster HAF-922 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fans - Later - CM Red 200 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $110 - XFX Black Edition 850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $490 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $100 - 2 x (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $370 - EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $55 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - Later - OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $80 - ASUS BR Model BC-08B1LT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 20, 2011 8:54:07 PM

^Way better value than the original system
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