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November 22, 2010 9:02:36 AM

Hi, I'm planning on a Gigabyte GTS 450 OC (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...). Which power supply is better? A Antec Neo Eco 520C 520W (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...) or Antec Neo Eco 450C 450W (http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...)
November 22, 2010 9:15:56 AM

Seeing as I can't edit the first page, here are my specs.

Mainboard : Gigabyte 945GCM-S2C
Chipset : Intel i945G/GZ
Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 @ 2200MHz
Physical Memory : 2560MBDDR2-SDRAM
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
Monitor Type : Samsung SyncMaster - 19 inches
November 22, 2010 10:18:27 AM

Hello fellow Aussie :) 

2 Things, do you know the resolution of your monitor (if not google the model number) and are you only wanting an Nvidia card, or would you be willing to go ATI as well?

1GB 5770 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
768MB GTX 460 OC http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

The 5770 will outperform the 450 in games nearly every time and the 460 will outperform the 5770 nearly every time. Since both are currently on sale, I'd highly recommend choosing one of these cards over the GTS 450 you listed (although that card itself isn't too bad, just a bit expensive for its performance)

In regards to the PSU, keep in mind that Neo Ecos don't come with a new power cord, so you'll be reusing your old one. With that said you'll be fine with the 520W model.

One more thing, you may find your CPU letting the rest of your system down. If you have the budget, maybe you could replace the CPU as well?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
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November 22, 2010 11:19:16 AM

Here is a great combo deal for the 5770.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


PSU is bundled with it and you practically pay nothing for it.What is your budget?Do you have enough to get a new prossessor too?I fear anything higher than a 5770 and your GPU might start to get bottlenecked by your CPU.
November 22, 2010 11:20:47 AM

Being in Australia does sort dull the usefulness of those awesome Newegg deals ;) 
November 22, 2010 11:26:15 AM

Mark Heath said:
Hello fellow Aussie :) 

2 Things, do you know the resolution of your monitor (if not google the model number) and are you only wanting an Nvidia card, or would you be willing to go ATI as well?

1GB 5770 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
768MB GTX 460 OC http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

The 5770 will outperform the 450 in games nearly every time and the 460 will outperform the 5770 nearly every time. Since both are currently on sale, I'd highly recommend choosing one of these cards over the GTS 450 you listed (although that card itself isn't too bad, just a bit expensive for its performance)

In regards to the PSU, keep in mind that Neo Ecos don't come with a new power cord, so you'll be reusing your old one. With that said you'll be fine with the 520W model.

One more thing, you may find your CPU letting the rest of your system down. If you have the budget, maybe you could replace the CPU as well?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...


Sorry, forgot about my resolution, for normal pc use I use 1440*900 and for gaming i would like 1280*1024/1440*900. Well I dont mind ATI the cooler on the 450 got me.(I've only ever used Nvidia and I've heard the ATI drivers can be a pain) I did find a 5770
(http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/128147/VIDEOCARDS_RADEON_PC...)
I suppose if the performance is noticeably greater I'll go for it. The 460 is extremely cheap, I'll have a look. Should I overclock my current CPU or buy that one?
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November 22, 2010 11:40:52 AM

Just a word before moving on, I'd like to point out that although everyone gives the 450 stick it overclocks like a DREAM, reaching 5770 performance levels with just air cooling. A lot of manufacturers are doing a lot of great designs on the 450 cards, with added cooling it is easily a match for the 5770 and its true potential is being unlocked. That's not to say that you couldn't OC the 5770 and leave the 450 in the dust, but I think the 450 is an under rated card. Since you'll be gaming at 1280*1024 or around there you will STRUGGLE to see the difference between the two cards. Realistically, you're only going to see noticeable differences at 1600 resolution or higher. Don't discount the fact that the 450 kicks the 5770's butt in games like Starcraft 2, as some games are just geared towards Nvidia cards.

End conclusion? Go for whichever is cheaper! You're not going to lose with either card, but bear in mind that if you wanted to in future you could get a second 450 and SLI it, and the SLI scaling on those cards is quite incredible indeed.
November 22, 2010 11:41:48 AM

For the CPU, just a suggestion. Anything beyond a 768MB GTX 460 (or thereabouts) will be seriously bottlenecked by the CPU. If you don't want to spend the extra then o'cing will help alleviate some of the problem. Keep in mind also that you can't reuse a new 775 CPU if you upgrade your rig to a newer platform further down the track, so I'd lean towards just o'cing instead. (unless you feel the need for extra power or have money growing on trees :) )
November 22, 2010 11:44:46 AM

(sorry for the double post)
that.. err.. furball or whatever that picture is :)  has a point. But your mobo can only support 1 card, so although a 5770 is overall the better card (and with the same price) I'd go for that between the 5770 and 450, but with that 460 so cheap, it's tempting, especially if you'll be upgrading your CPU+mobo in less than 2 or so years.
November 22, 2010 11:50:30 AM

Thanks for all the replies, i think i'll stay with the 450 purely because the fan looks awesome and matches my black with blue LED system.. As for the CPU i don't really have the cash so I'll just OC and next year I'll get a new mobo, ram, cpu ect.

Thanks guys
November 22, 2010 11:53:17 AM

ooo.. blue LEDs :pt1cable: 
enjoy your upgrade :) 
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November 23, 2010 1:09:59 PM

Congrats, you will enjoy it!
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