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November 22, 2010 10:45:17 PM

Hi,

I have an Acer 22" 1680 X 1050 monitor. I would like to know if SLI or crossfire is required to play all the games at max settings with AA enabled.

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November 22, 2010 10:59:56 PM

Not really, with a GTX 460 you should be fine.
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November 22, 2010 11:00:09 PM

That depends on the cards you are using, the CPU, RAM and games you are playing.
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November 22, 2010 11:30:14 PM

I am planning to use the below specifications;

Athlon II x4 640 3.0 ghz
Corsair XMS3 4gb 1333mhz
NZXT Gamma
500 GB Seagate SATA
Corsair GS 700W Power Supply


Please suggest me a graphic card for playing all games including GTA 4 at maximum possible settings at 1680*1050 resolution.
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November 23, 2010 12:05:46 AM

GTA 4 is supposed to be a CPU bound game and in general not well performing one, so don't expect a lot for that game, but you'd probably find that a GTX 460, GTX 470, HD Radeon 6850 or 6870 would allow for most games to be maxed at that resolution. About the only thing that wouldn't be maxed is Crysis.
November 23, 2010 12:07:21 AM

Crysis runs fine 30 fps on my 5850 max 8x AA
November 23, 2010 12:12:43 AM

so SLI or crossfire is not required for 1680*1050 resolution right!!!.

What would you recommend, a single graphics or a multi graphics solution (SLI or crossfire). The reason why I am asking you is after 2 or 3 years, if i am planning to add another card, I would not get one because new cards would come in and the older cards would go out of stock, right...


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November 23, 2010 12:32:01 AM

"so SLI or crossfire is not required for 1680*1050 resolution right!!!"

Yes correct 100%.

" The reason why I am asking you is after 2 or 3 years, if i am planning to add another card, I would not get one because new cards would come in and the older cards would go out of stock, right..."

Out of stock at retail outlets sure, but 2-3 year old cards are widely available online. Really though in 2-3 years you're not going to have any desire to x-fire or sli a 2-3 year old card, they will have cards that perform twice as well, cost half as much, and use half the power.
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November 23, 2010 1:01:23 AM

Bbpsword said:
Crysis runs fine 30 fps on my 5850 max 8x AA


I'm not sure what your resolution is, but I wouldn't consider that good enough FPS to play with those settings. I'd adivse seeing how you like 4x AA. The performance loss isn't worth 8x AA.
November 23, 2010 2:13:06 AM

so you are suggesting me to go for a single graphics card, right!!!!!

if so, please suggest me a few graphics cards ATI or NVIDIA that could max out any game (except crysis) at 1680*1050 or higher.
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November 23, 2010 2:14:52 AM

I already did. GTX 460, GTX 470, HD 6850 and HD 6870's all sound about right.
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November 23, 2010 3:09:18 AM

They all seem like good cards, and you'd be happy with any of them. I usually get non-overclocked cards however. The non overclocked cards can usually be overclocked to the factory OC'ed cards spec's without the extra cost. Although, you are guaranteed the results with the factory OC'ed cards.

edit: seems my y button wasn't working :p 
November 23, 2010 3:20:20 AM

Perfect. I would buy any of those three cards.

Now, will you please suggest me some good motherboards with good features for a single card solution (best overclocking features). Not SLI or crossfire (like AMD FX chipsets). it would be a waste keeping those extra slots empty.


November 23, 2010 4:25:46 AM

sorry there's a problem with my internet connection today. its very slow, so I had to click twice or thrice to get my comments posted.
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November 23, 2010 11:18:25 AM

irfan88 said:
sorry there's a problem with my internet connection today. its very slow, so I had to click twice or thrice to get my comments posted.

Just refresh the page in future.
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November 23, 2010 11:40:35 AM

Your current mobo doesn't have a pci-e slot? Or are you still getting all the hardware?
I would go for an 870/880. You don't need a mobo with integrated graphics if you get dedicated right away, and the 870's are relatively cheap for the quality, which I like.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

There hasn't been any issues with this mobo since I got it 9 months ago, as well as being a cheap AM3/2xpci-e solution. It also supports higher ram(I use 12gb(2x4gb/2x2gb) DDR3 1600MHz) which makes it one of the cheapest AM3 mobo's with ddr3 support and with a decent overclock ability.
So if you do plan to crossfire, you have the ability, and if you go with the 460's you should get great performance under that resolution.
November 23, 2010 12:06:30 PM

I have to get all the hardware because my current build is a stupid Pentium D LGA 775 socket processor.

I am looking it to upgrade to an AM3 socket for future proof:

AMD Athlon II x4 640 3.0 Ghz
Corsair XMS3 1333Mhz
NZXT Gamma Cabinet
500GB SATA
Acer 22" 1680*1050 TFT
Corsair GS 700W PSU


so please suggest me some of the good motherboards to combine with GTX 460 or HD 6850. I wont be using crossfire or SLI since I would not get any older cards 2 to 3 years from now. I am sure that one of those cards would suffice for another 2 to 3 years. It would be pointless to use SLI or crossfire for that resolution.

And also there would be much better cards twice or thrice more powerfull that a GTX 460 or a HD 6850 2 to 3 years from now. so no SLI or crossfire.

so please suggest me some of the good motherboards

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November 23, 2010 12:18:17 PM

irfan88 said:
I have to get all the hardware because my current build is a stupid Pentium D LGA 775 socket processor.

I am looking it to upgrade to an AM3 socket for future proof:

AMD Athlon II x4 640 3.0 Ghz
Corsair XMS3 1333Mhz
NZXT Gamma Cabinet
500GB SATA
Acer 22" 1680*1050 TFT
Corsair GS 700W PSU


so please suggest me some of the good motherboards to combine with GTX 460 or HD 6850. I wont be using crossfire or SLI since I would not get any older cards 2 to 3 years from now. I am sure that one of those cards would suffice for another 2 to 3 years. It would be pointless to use SLI or crossfire for that resolution.

And also there would be much better cards twice or thrice more powerfull that a GTX 460 or a HD 6850 2 to 3 years from now. so no SLI or crossfire.

so please suggest me some of the good motherboards


I would still suggest the 870-G45, as it's a decent motherboard for a low price.
November 23, 2010 12:22:06 PM

one last question.

do you think that a GTX 460 or a HD 6850 would suffice me another 2 to 3 years for gaming at 1680*1050 or do I have to go for a monster card such as GTX 470, HD 5870 or above.
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November 23, 2010 12:23:46 PM

All of those cards you mentioned are close enough in performance to be almost considered the same class. They should last 2 years pretty well, 3 years maybe not so well.
November 23, 2010 12:32:19 PM

so is sli or crossfire required?

the reason why I am asking you is I stay in India. 2 to 3 years from now, I would not get the same graphics card.

Also, there would be some nice cards at that point of time (probably double the performance of the current generation cards).


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November 23, 2010 12:52:50 PM

Well think about it this way, 3 years ago almost to the day the 8800gt was released to the high-midrange, much like the gtx460 and 6850 today.

It's still a reasonable card and can play most games at 1680x1050 without any big issues. Obviously you wouldn't buy one now, but it's still "ok" for that resolution. I'd expect the cards you mentioned to be the same in 3 years, but it's hard to say for sure.
November 23, 2010 12:55:21 PM

so should I go for SLI , crossfire solution or just stick on to a single graphics card and buy a new one after 2 to 3 years.
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November 23, 2010 12:56:13 PM

I would personally get a GTX470, this will definatly last a good 2/3 years with all the settings turned up full and not have to worry about being just on the edge.

Might be a bit of an overkill at this stage in life, but would be better 2/3 years down the road at not a huge price difference between the GTX460 (well not here in the UK anyways)

But this is my personal opinion.. :) 
November 23, 2010 1:05:36 PM

you did not answer my question. so should I go for SLI , crossfire solution or just stick on to a single graphics card and buy a new one after 2 to 3 years.
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November 23, 2010 1:11:40 PM

irfan88 said:
you did not answer my question. so should I go for SLI , crossfire solution or just stick on to a single graphics card and buy a new one after 2 to 3 years.


That is something only you can answer. Is there a need to SLI at 1680x1050 Res? No, the gains from Sli'ing for example a GTX470 wouldn't in my opinion a gain you wouldnt see.

If it were at 1920x1080, then its a different story as this would see more gains.

Fact is, a single GTX470 would last you well over 2 years at everything max'd out without a problem, if it does become a problem, you could always Sli in the future to get the best out of the situation.

But remember, in 2/3 years time, there maybe some better single GPU options compared to SLI Gtx470's or anything SLi'd a this time.

Personal Opinion Of Course :) 
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November 23, 2010 1:17:00 PM

irfan88 said:
you did not answer my question. so should I go for SLI , crossfire solution or just stick on to a single graphics card and buy a new one after 2 to 3 years.

SLi and resolution depends on the cards being used, at 16 x 10 the GTS450 and GTX460's would show gains larger than the higher end GTX470 and GTX480 or GTX580.
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November 23, 2010 3:33:26 PM

irfan88 said:
you did not answer my question. so should I go for SLI , crossfire solution or just stick on to a single graphics card and buy a new one after 2 to 3 years.


When someone suggest you get a GTX470 or GTX460 or what ever without mentioning SLI, they are recommending you get a single card. Most people here are recommending a single card, myself included.

Unless you can't get a single card with enough performance for your needs, it's generally the best idea.

SLI and crossfire have draw backs. Not all games will take advantage of it. Some games will even refuse to run. If you play them in a window, it doesn't use SLI or crossfire at all. In all those conditions, you are forced to use a weaker card than you would have otherwise had to if you had one more powerful card.

There are also games which have glitches with SLI and crossfire. Your cards will run hotter, and louder in most cases as well.

At that resolution, I'd definately stick with a single card. A GTX460 or 470, or if you like ATI, a 6850 or 6870.
November 23, 2010 7:53:28 PM

Thank you all. You people have helped me a lot.

If you wouldn't have helped me, I would have spent a lot more money on getting an extra card and a dual graphics motherboard.

Now I can save some money and get some better hardware.

Thank you once again.
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