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January 21, 2011 11:20:59 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 2-4 Weeks

Budget Range: 1500$ for PC 1 and 3000$ for PC2

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies/Entertainment, 3d modeling

Parts Not Required: Keyboard/Mouse, Monitor, Windows, DVD/CD Drives etc..

Preferred Website/Retailers for Parts: Newegg, Micro Center


Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Yes to both

SLI: Yes, eventually on the lower cost build.

Monitor Resolution:1920x1200, 3x monitor setup for 3k build

Additional Comments: Doing a build for myself as well as my nephew, and looking for any suggestions on what components to get :hello: 

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January 22, 2011 1:14:21 AM

Wow! 3K build? You could get a powerhouse for 1.5K! So you already have plenty of monitors? Do they support 3D? If not, then Radeon GPU's are just as good as GeForce. At your price range, I'm thinking 2x Radeon HD 5970's.

But more importantly, I really think you should wait a month until the Z67 comes out soon. If you're spending $3000, you should spend half of it on ridiculous graphics cards, but you'll need outrageous horsepower as well. And I can't recommend a $1000 i7-980X when it'll get trumped by the i7-2600K once the Z67 platform comes out. I assume you want the absolute best since you'll spend $3K--that means you've got to wait until the best exists. Look into the launch date of the Z67 platform that will replace the X58.

In the meantime, buy your graphics cards and put them in your old build. Right now you can buy:
$1100 - 2x Radeon HD 5970's
$250 - 2x 80GB (or whatever your preference) Sandforce SSD's for RAID 0.
$160 - 2x Hitachi 2TB drives for RAID 1
$120 - Awesome case
$90 - LG Blu-ray burner
$250 - 1000W Top-notch PSU

That leaves $1030 to spend $350 on a top-notch Z67 board, $330 on an i7-2600K, $300 on 16GB (4x4GB) top-notch DDR3, and $50 on a good CPU cooler.
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January 22, 2011 1:42:46 AM

As far as the $1.5K build? Skip the SSD's and get 4 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB's for RAID 10 or 01 combo (partition to top 150GBs for speed). Only spend $100 on the case. Get a 750W PSU (like Corsair TX750). Skip the Blu-ray. And get Radeon 6950's and unlock them to 6970's if you're not planning a future Nvidia 3D vision. Otherwise get 2x GTX 570's.

$450 - i5-2500K/P67 mobo combo
$200 - 4x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
$100 - nice case with good air flow
$85 - 750W PSU
$20 - DVD
$110 - 8GB good DDR3 (1600C7/2000C9)
$535 - for GPU's

You could adjust where you spend money so that $535 becomes $600 and you can get two 6950's (unlock to 6970's) or $700 and two GTX 570's. At $535 that gets you one GTX 580--which is potent enough on its own--but then you'll need a 950W PSU. I might get an 850W straight out anyways.

Oh, also you could do water cooling on your $3K build if you want. That sounds like fun, but they say Sandy Bridge CPUs will do 5.0GHz+ on air. Also the Radeons have 2GB frame buffers (instead of 1.5GB)--which can make a difference in the triple screen setup.
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January 22, 2011 2:50:43 AM

You know all that I said about the Z67? Forget about it because it's probably not gonna get here until Q4 2011. I was thinking it would arrive Q2, which is right around the corner. Just build the i7-2600K/P67 for your $3K build. That will be adequately phenomenal.
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January 22, 2011 3:10:53 AM

3000.... do a 2K build and use 1K for LCSing thats all I can suggest, at this point it is pointless to do more than 2K builds.

As for your 1.5K build.
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore

I don't think 4x 1tb in RAID is a very good idea as it kills the drives pretty fast, but maybe that's only for SSDs. Also I'm pretty sure you'll need a controller for that right? And, you'll still never reach boot levels/speeds that a single SSD could do. Wait till the Vertex 3 comes out, that should be a pretty sweet SATA 6 SSD
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January 22, 2011 4:24:46 AM

Build #1 for uncle (replace the gtx 580's with 6970's if running three monitors).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $184.99 - $164.99 after mail-in rebate
SILVERSTONE ST1000-P 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $194.99
ASRock P67 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... $279.99
Core i7 2600K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99
XIGMATEK Aegir SD128264 Mega Killer Double HDT 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler Dual Fan I7 i5 775 1155 1156 and AMD compatible

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $159.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $89.99 FREE SHIPPING
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $264.99 FREE SHIPPING $30 off with promo code HARDOCPX119B, ends 1/22
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99 FREE SHIPPING
Rosewill RX-C200P 2.5" SSD / HDD Plastic Mounting Kit for 3.5" Drive Bay

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99 FREE SHIPPING
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99 FREE SHIPPING
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total: $2,544.88 *not including shipping, rebates, etc..

http://www.slizone.com/object/sli_multi_monitor.html <--- SLI Multi-Monitor Support
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January 22, 2011 4:41:03 AM

Build #2 for nephew (replace gtx 580 w/ 6970 if running three monitors).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.98 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $149.99
SILVERSTONE ST85F-P 850W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $152.99
ASRock P67 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... $279.99
Core i7 2600K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh... $27.14 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U3S5S0/ref=s9_simh... $59.99 this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.999 FREE SHIPPING
Corsair Force CSSD-F60GB2-BRKT 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99 FREE SHIPPING
Rosewill RX-C200P 2.5" SSD / HDD Plastic Mounting Kit for 3.5" Drive Bay

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99 FREE SHIPPING
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total: $1,590.03 *not including shipping, rebates, etc..

http://www.slizone.com/object/sli_multi_monitor.html <--- SLI Multi-Monitor Support
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January 22, 2011 4:47:43 PM

3D Modeling will exclude ATI cards ... if one of the builds doesn't need that, consider the equivalent ATI card in the builds below. 3D Modeling also likes the 1366 platform but since it's at the end of ya list, I'll list that as an alternate. Given both budgets are more than enough no "low budget" brand (Rosewill, Raidmax, AsRock) components included. PSU will handle 3rd 580 if ya wanna add one in future.

Case - $140 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fans - $18 - Antec Red 120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $300 - Antec HCP 1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $270 - ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $330 - Intel Core i5-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $62 - Prolimatech Megahalems http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU Fan - $11 - Scythe SY1225SL12LM-P http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...
CPU Fan - $11 - Same
Fan Cable - $8 - Akasa PWM AK-CB002 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10350/cab-183/Akasa_P...
RAM - $80 - 2 x (2 x 2GB) Mushkin CAS 6 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AM - $80 - Same
GFX - $530 - EVGA GTX 580 SC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $530 - Same
HD - $70 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD - $70 Same
SSD - $210 - OCZ Vertex 2 2.5" 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $204 Same
DVD Writer - $80 - ASUS BR Model BC-08B1LT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Cost $3,009 w/o any combo discounts

Did not include BR writer as media still inordinately expensive

Alternatives:

Case - PSU - HAF-X ($200) w/ Corsair AX1200 ($280) - $40 more money ....

MoBo / CPU - If the modeling *is* the thing

MoBo - $365 - Asus Rampage 3 Extreme http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $295 - Intel i7-950 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 22, 2011 4:57:23 PM

For the $1500 build, I'd like to go with the same 2600k and have the nephew look just like uncle's but I run afoul of ya budget a bit ($70). Case and PSU sized to easily accommodate another GFX card in SLI and case window fan come XMas 2011 or 2012.

Case - $140 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - Later - Antec 120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $120 - Antec CP850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $490 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $50 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $370 - EVGA GTX 570 Superclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $210 - OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $80 - ASUS BR Model BC-08B1LT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cost $1,570

Options to keep under $1500

Knock of $100 by dropping CPU a notch

MoBo - $390 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2500K

Knock off $50 w/ alternate case / PSU

Case - $100 - Coolermaster HAF-922 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - Later - CM Red 200 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $110 - XFX Black Edition 850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Knock off $58 by dropping ability to play Blue Ray movies

DVD Writer - $22 - ASUS SATA 24X Burner LightScribe Support - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Knock off$210 by dropping the SSD

If it were me, I'd drop the kid the $70 :) 
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January 23, 2011 5:46:31 PM

Got some replies, thanks guys! Busy atm so cant look through em, but at a glance alot of good stuff. Appreciate it! :p --
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January 24, 2011 11:21:18 PM

Still looking over these more, but a note....would it be smart to wait for the ivybridge? seems that the sandy bridge mobo's only support x8/x8 for PCIE, would that not limit the speed of a dual graphics setup?
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January 24, 2011 11:42:06 PM

fel2941 said:
Still looking over these more, but a note....would it be smart to wait for the ivybridge? seems that the sandy bridge mobo's only support x8/x8 for PCIE, would that not limit the speed of a dual graphics setup?


Yes sadly they will make you lose about 1frame. The horrors of 8x.

Do not worry. You will lose little performance.
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January 24, 2011 11:47:35 PM

But 3x is completely a no correct? :p  how does 2x of the new GTX's stand up fps wise for 3d gaming?
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January 25, 2011 12:47:21 AM

Which GTX are we talking about? At SLI the 460 performs well on SB. Still the 6850 is better than it in most cases in CF. It really depends. 3D gaming is something not a lot of devs as of late are really striding towards except Nvidia paid devs (IE Ubisoft and example being Hawx and Hawx 2) the only big 3D game I'm somewhat looking forward to is Crysis 2. But otherwise none. Hopefully they also offer AMD HDMI 1.4a support for 3D.
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January 25, 2011 11:45:36 AM

I that case ill just stick with sandybridge and go that way
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January 25, 2011 11:46:40 AM

Best answer selected by fel2941.
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