Few Questions About My Biuld...

[maksuda123]

Hey Guys!


This is my first time building my very own Gaming PC! I just had some questions about it, maybe someone can help me with it.

Ill be using these parts:


ASUS P8P67 Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131679&Tpk=P8P67%20deluxe


G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428


EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595&Tpk=EVGA%20GTX%20570%20superclocked

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070


CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011&Tpk=Corsair%20HX850


Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018&Tpk=noctua%20nh-d14


As well as a WD 1TB HDD and a Lite-on DVD-R but those don't really have much to do with my question.
-What i need to know is if the ram that i picked will preform without issues on that P8P67 Deluxe motherboard?
-If so, which socket should i place the ram in? the blue or black?
-Finally, can someone tell me if i should go ahead and confirm this order? Does everything look amazing?

 

[hunter315]

Save yourself a ton and grab the XFX 850W unit, its great quality just like the Corsair 850HX, but it costs significantly less.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207001&cm_re=xfx_850w-_-17-207-001-_-Product

Im not sure which slot to place the ram in, but a quick look in your manual will tell you once you get it, that ram should work fine with that board.

Everything else looks fine.

 

[dalauder]

Nice build! That RAM should be fine--I'd get 1600C7 or 2000C9 though. But realistically, you'll be bottlenecked by your graphics for the most part.

 

[Why_Me]

Nice build! That RAM should be fine--I'd get 1600C7 or 2000C9 though. But realistically, you'll be bottlenecked by your graphics for the most part.

??? That builds a complete mess if there's price point (budget). You don't get a $300+ mobo and a $90 h/s and then ride with a gtx 570. There's gaming builds, and then there's what the OP posted. Now how would a person get at gtx 580 out of that without spending anymore money, yet still getting a quality build for gaming?

First off unless the OP does anything other than gaming...unless he's into FSX, then a 2500K will do just fine. And for the mobo...psu, etc...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.584425 Combo Discount: -$16.00 Combo Price: $238.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...

or for a bigger o/c...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142 $39.99
Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU Cooler

Quality modular psu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256058 $149.99 - $134.99 after mail-in rebate
SILVERSTONE ST85F-P 850W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Mobo's... ? Asus Pro, AsRock Extreme4, Asrock Extreme6, Gigabyte UD4...those boards start @ $150 - $200 and all of them should get you to 5.0Ghz on the o/c...which doesn't really mean jack seeing who runs their cpu at that speed when their gaming ? HEAT

Now with the money saved you don't get an o/c version of a vid card, you do it yourself and save a few bucks (unless they got a special on them). You get one like this one down below...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587 $499.99
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

 

[dalauder]

Okay, you're right. I usually tell people their builds are bad and I was lazy. I should've said, "That build's a lot nicer than mine, but you really should be doing something different with that much money." Thanks for correcting it Why_Me--much better choices.

 

[Why_Me]

Okay, you're right. I usually tell people their builds are bad and I was lazy. I should've said, "That build's a lot nicer than mine, but you really should be doing something different with that much money." Thanks for correcting it Why_Me--much better choices.

he he...ok I guess I could have been a bit more subtle.

 

[dalauder]

I needed that though, because this other guy wanted to get a 5770 for his new Phenom II 955 build and he could've gotten a 5850 if he skipped a water cooling.

 

[maksuda123]

??? That builds a complete mess if there's price point (budget). You don't get a $300+ mobo and a $90 h/s and then ride with a gtx 570. There's gaming builds, and then there's what the OP posted. Now how would a person get at gtx 580 out of that without spending anymore money, yet still getting a quality build for gaming?

First off unless the OP does anything other than gaming...unless he's into FSX, then a 2500K will do just fine. And for the mobo...psu, etc...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.584425 Combo Discount: -$16.00 Combo Price: $238.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...

or for a bigger o/c...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142 $39.99
Scythe SCMG-2100 Sleeve CPU Cooler

Quality modular psu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256058 $149.99 - $134.99 after mail-in rebate
SILVERSTONE ST85F-P 850W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Mobo's... ? Asus Pro, AsRock Extreme4, Asrock Extreme6, Gigabyte UD4...those boards start @ $150 - $200 and all of them should get you to 5.0Ghz on the o/c...which doesn't really mean jack seeing who runs their cpu at that speed when their gaming ? HEAT

Now with the money saved you don't get an o/c version of a vid card, you do it yourself and save a few bucks (unless they got a special on them). You get one like this one down below...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587 $499.99
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Am i spending to much on stuff that i can get for cheaper and better the performance? or are you just suggesting that for how much I'm paying for this build i should hook it up with a better graphic card?

 

[Why_Me]

Am i spending to much on stuff that i can get for cheaper and better the performance? or are you just suggesting that for how much I'm paying for this build i should hook it up with a better graphic card?

Yes to both. Name a budget, and what parts you don't need and/or already have...o/s, psu, etc...

 

[maksuda123]

$1700-1800, Don't bother including a Case, besides that i need everything... I just need the outcome to be amazing, something that works and will be a great Gaming PC.

 

[dalauder]

Ooh fun . Is there any reason no one recommends a 5970? Isn't it faster than a GTX 580 in everything but the NVidia--the way it's meant to played titles? I guess it's better to recommend 2x 6950's unlocked to 6970's? You know, for $1800 it's possible to have dual GTX580's. That sounds ridiculous--but's it's doable.

CPU: i7-2600K $330
Mobo: one Why_Me listed above $200
PSU: Corsair TX950 $125 AR
Cooler: Anything with great reviews $50
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 1600CL9 $103
DVD: ASUS one on Newegg $17
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 $55 on Amazon
Graphics: $920 remains ($1800 budget) That's 2x 80GB Solid State Drives in RAID 0 and a GTX 580 or HD 5970.

I'd go with the HD 5970, but that's just me. And then I'd SLI or CrossfireX a second card next Black Friday.

 

[dalauder]

Oh...2x 80GB SSD's, GTX 580, & 28" 1920x1200 monitor (2x$130+$500+$250).

 

[Why_Me]

Most all of the P67 boards got new bios within the last week including this AsRock board which o/c's to 5.0Ghz+ now.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-motherboard-roundup-lga-1155-sandy-bridge,2837.html <---ASRock P67 Extreme4 review

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256058 $149.99
SILVERSTONE ST85F-P 850W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157217 $152.99
ASRock P67 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.584445 Combo Price: $341.98
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154003 $6.99 FREE SHIPPING
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 $109.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U3S5S0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=0WTZP6BVYETKEAAD5S00&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939291&pf_rd_i=507846 $59.99 this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 $16.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587 $499.99
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total: $1,438.89 *not including shipping, rebates, etc...

*Down below is not included in the build...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551 $229.99 - $209.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817997013 $4.99 FREE SHIPPING
Rosewill RX-C200P 2.5" SSD / HDD Plastic Mounting Kit for 3.5" Drive Bay

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236112 $189.99 - $179.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
ASUS VE247H Black 23.6" 2ms Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 10,000,000:1 (ASCR)

 

[dalauder]

That Silverstone PSU can't handle two GTX 580's. There's a few other choices near that price range that can. I don't know if they're modular though.

 

[Why_Me]

That Silverstone PSU can't handle two GTX 580's. There's a few other choices near that price range that can. I don't know if they're modular though.

It should be plenty according to the specs. This one down below is modular...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256057 $184.99 - $164.99 after mail-in rebate
SILVERSTONE ST1000-P 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 & EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

 

[Why_Me]

That Silverstone PSU can't handle two GTX 580's. There's a few other choices near that price range that can. I don't know if they're modular though.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-review/14

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580_SLI/23.html

 

[chnathan]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-review/14

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580_SLI/23.html

Yes, a quality 850W PSU like the one you mentioned is fine for dual 580s unless the system's got some other large, unusual power draw.

 

[maksuda123]

Most all of the P67 boards got new bios within the last week including this AsRock board which o/c's to 5.0Ghz+ now.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-motherboard-roundup-lga-1155-sandy-bridge,2837.html <---ASRock P67 Extreme4 review

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256058 $149.99
SILVERSTONE ST85F-P 850W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157217 $152.99
ASRock P67 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.584445 Combo Price: $341.98
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154003 $6.99 FREE SHIPPING
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 $109.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U3S5S0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=0WTZP6BVYETKEAAD5S00&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939291&pf_rd_i=507846 $59.99 this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551 $229.99 - $209.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817997013 $4.99 FREE SHIPPING
Rosewill RX-C200P 2.5" SSD / HDD Plastic Mounting Kit for 3.5" Drive Bay

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 $16.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587 $499.99
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total: $1,673.88 *not including shipping, rebates, etc...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236112 $189.99 - $179.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
ASUS VE247H Black 23.6" 2ms Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 10,000,000:1 (ASCR)

Oh i forgot to mention i already have a good monitor! so no need to include it, maybe we can replace it with something else =p or just lower the total by removing it, btw what are SSD's?

 

[Why_Me]

Oh i forgot to mention i already have a good monitor! so no need to include it, maybe we can replace it with something else =p or just lower the total by removing it, btw what are SSD's?

SSD's (Solid State Drive) are an unneeded item. Some people put their o/s (Windows) and a few proggy's/games on them for the fact they load up twice as fast as a normal h/d. I don't use them myself...I don't mind waiting a few extra seconds for Windows to load up. By taking that off build along with the Rosewell mounting kit for it...that drops the price of the build to: $1,438.89 before rebates, shipping, etc...

That leaves you a few extra $ to put away for another one of those gtx 580's.

 

[maksuda123]

Aww man, their out of stock on the AsRock P67 Extreme4 on Newegg.ca... How about the AsRock P67 Extreme6?

 

[Why_Me]

Aww man, their out of stock on the AsRock P67 Extreme4 on Newegg.ca... How about the AsRock P67 Extreme6?

That's a good board. It gives you a few extra's including more usb ports, etc..

 

[maksuda123]

Best answer selected by maksuda123.

 

[dalauder]

Hey Why_Me, is there a reason people don't use 5970's (other than the prohibitive cost)? Performance wise, they're the best, right?

 

[Why_Me]

Hey Why_Me, is there a reason people don't use 5970's (other than the prohibitive cost)? Performance wise, they're the best, right?

TBH I'm not sure. I remember when the 5870 used to have some heat and tearing issues...I'm not sure if it carried over to these cards or not.

 

[chnathan]

The 5970 is a dual-gpu card. So basically in performance, cost, and power usage, it's like a crossfire setup on a single card. I think in most situations you can do better for less by combining two lesser cards yourself. Also the 5970 is huge, so it won't fit in smaller cases.

I suppose for the absolute extreme in performance you could crossfire two (or heck, three) 5970s, but not real situation requires that, and it would be stupid-expensive.

Edit: Also, the standard 5970 has 'only' 1GB of memory per GPU, which may bottleneck it on higher resolutions. (There is a 4GB version (2GB per GPU), but it's even more expensive.)