Gtx460 vs gtx470

boden08

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Hi all,
Just wanted your opinion on a graphics card, I have always used nvidia cards and happy to continue to use them, the problem is i am building a new system and about to order over the next few days but not sure what graphics card to get.

The system: Phenom II955
Asus M4A88T-M
Corsair TX650
Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600mhz 4GB
Coolermaster elite 430
Liteon DVd/RW
Wd 500gb HDD

The resolution that i am using at the moment is only 1280x1024 but with in the next few months i wall be using a asus 24Inch 120mhz display at 1920x1080 so thats what i need to base it on.

The two graphics cards i am looking at is

Asus gtx460 1gb

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-gtx-460-3600mhz-gddr5-gpu-675mhz-shader-clock-1350mhz-336-cores-2xdl-dvi-mhdmi

Asus gtx470

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-asus-gtx-470-40nm-3348mhz-gddr5-gpu-607mhz-shader-1215mhz-448-cores-plus-starcraft-ii-demo

or v2

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-asus-gtx-470-v2-40nm-3348mhz-gddr5-gpu-607mhz-shader-1215mhz-448-cores-2xdvimini-hdmi

I will be using this system for gaming, dawn of war 2, crysis and warhead and when the new one comes out, all call of dutys, medal of honor and so on.

The thing is the gtx 470 is about 30 pound more and fits in my budget but if i got the gtx460 i could use the money somewhere else on the system like a better case or phenom II 965 and so on.

What do you think is best keep the same system or downgrade gpu and upgrade other parts.

Whats your opinion. thanks
 

venjhammet

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Grab the Asus gtx470. It has a lot more punch than the 460 besides your going for 1920 res you need a strong card to get a pretty decent framerates. Phenom II955 is already fast enough.
 

namelessonez

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Your CPU, cabinet and Mobo are fine. You don't need to worry about getting a better tower, in fact the one listed is more than enough. Since you're planning on getting the 24", I would recommend getting the GTX470. The MSI Twin Frozr II has excellent reviews. Those run a lot cooler and quieter from reference ones. I guess its a bit more than the Asus cards you linked. However, if possible, I would highly recommend you invest the extra 20 - 24 quid in the MIS card.

Running at that resolution, even the GTX460 is good enough. I'd feel more comfortable if I had a slightly beefier card running on that setup. Keep in mind that the reference 470 runs pretty hot and loud but then those cards are built to run hot and sustain heats. Since you've got a good tower/ airflow, I wouldn't worry about that.

EDIT: Just so you get an idea, here's the MSI card:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-msi-gtx-470-twin-frozr-ii-40nm-3348mhz-gddr5-gpu-607mhz-shader-1215mhz-448-cores-mhdmi
 

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If you are planning an AMD build, resulting to an AMD board which most have Crossfire support i would suggest an 6870 which is more than enough in any game for now and later on you can crossfire. Now as far as the 460 vs 470 i would go with 460. There is absolutely nothing that 470 can do and 460 won't do. I myself play on 1920x1080 with a Gainward GTX460 1gb and only Crysis drops below 45 frames.
 

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Quick question:
Is there much difference betweem the following two cards?
nVidea GeForce GTX 460 (Desktop version)
nVidea GeForce GTX 460M (Laptop version)
Because I am looking at getting a gaming laptop and I do not know much about cards at all...
 

namelessonez

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@Klosteral:
Suggest you start a new thread bud, coz this may tantamount to hijacking and 'may' lead to a ban. :)

@darkling:
The 460 is a good card, no doubt. But if the OP can (and wants to) afford the 470 then he'll be better off, right? The 470 will run everything that's thrown at it and still leave room for more in case the need to overclock ever arises. While the 460 may achieve the levels of performance while running on the edge, the 470 will do the same comfortably.
 

darkling

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You asking if it is better to buy a faster car than a slower one? All i am saying is that the levels of difference between those cards are not so big. Ofcourse if he can afford he can buy a GTX470. He can buy a GTX580 for all that matter. I am talking bucks vs performance and the difference aint that big.

About the 965 vs 955, again 955 will do the job just fine and with minimum OC you make em equal.
 

namelessonez

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Here's the comparison on Crysis@1920x1080:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/A/2/254378/original/Crysis%201920.png

Here's COD4MW2:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/Z/254375/original/Call%20of%20Duty%20Modern%20Warfare%202%201920.png

BFBC2:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/W/254372/original/Battlefield%20Bad%20Company%202%201920.png

AvP:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/T/254369/original/Aliens%20vs%20Predator%201920.png

In most of them, the GTX470 is ahead by a decent margin. :)

Agreed, the performance difference may be abt 25% or so, I feel that is a considerable difference between the two cards. Again, my humble views.
 

boden08

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Thanks for all the relpys, i am not looking to xfire or get any radeon card as i like the nvidias, i was looking at getting a nf980a but that would bring my budget down.

The msi card is very nice and great reviews buy i have always had asus cards and mobos and never once had a problem and i like to stick to what i know but thanks for the option and opinion.

I know you cant put a time on systems but i will be upgrading to another system within 3-4 years as people do.

coolermaster elite 430 is the case i am getting a corsair tx650 52a on the +12v rail.

There seems to be a nice margin between the 460 and 470 and i am not planning on overclocking any of my system.

If all the other components are just as good as the original build then i think it would be best to go with the gtx470.

Just want to say thanks again for all your help

 

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