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Should i add another 2gb ram or replace my GPU(Palit9500GT)?

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November 25, 2010 2:04:42 PM

hi uhm i dont know if this is the right section for this one but i'm really curious. i was planning to add another 2GB RAM but while i was browsing the pricelist, i saw Inno3D GT220 512MB DDR3 which suits my budget.

this is my current rig:

GPU: Palit 9500GT 512MB DDR2 (overclocked)
core: 450-583
memory: 400-522
shader: 1125-1400
RAM: Apacer 1x2GB RAM
CPU: Intel Dual Core E6300
HDD1: Seagate Barracuda 80GB
HDD2: Seagate Barracuda 250GB

actually, i just finished playing Crysis and it was really annoying on the last part since all those effects and explosions causes some "hiccups" while playing. sometimes, the game just freezes and after that, you're dead lol. same with Medal of Honor 2010, explosions causes small time screen freeze.

i also found a short term solution on those problems. i was currently using game booster - an application that temporarily closes unnecessary background programs(of your choice).

so how do i improve my computer's performance on games? do i just have to add another RAM? or replace my GPU?

PS: those games are only played on 1152x864 AA off (except for AC2)

thanks for your advice ;) 
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2010 2:51:09 PM

Hmm, well I think the best thing to do is give us the EXACT amount your budget is, and then let us find a good answer for you!
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a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2010 2:56:32 PM

See if you can squeeze a little more money to buy a 5750. It will help. I have a core 2 duo 3.4ghz, 5770 and 2gb of RAM. 4Gb might be great but if you can afford the 5750 you will see a really big jump in performance.
Also you might want to try and overclock the CPU. If you can not afford the 5750 then buy the gt240. It is a little more powerful then the gt220. And don't buy any ddr2 video cards. Only ddr3 or ddr5.

If you mean the carrier part at the end of crysis? That has some issue, even on good cards the frames go too low with any settings.
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November 25, 2010 2:57:26 PM

i'm from Philippines so my budget would be about PHP2550/$60($1=PHP43.00) actually i was only saving for another RAM lol that costs around PHP1,500/$35 but i got kinda excited when i saw Inno3D GT220. XD
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November 25, 2010 3:06:06 PM

ionut19 said:
See if you can squeeze a little more money to buy a 5750. It will help. I have a core 2 duo 3.4ghz, 5770 and 2gb of RAM. 4Gb might be great but if you can afford the 5750 you will see a really big jump in performance.
Also you might want to try and overclock the CPU.

If you mean the carrier part at the end of crysis? That has some issue, even on good cards the frames go too low with any settings.


you mean HD5750? that's my problem when choosing GPUs. my mobo doesn't have any 6pin slots :(  that's why i'm really having some limited choices.

and with regards to the price, an HD5750 costs around PHP5950/$139. XD

oh wait, i saw this Inno3D GT430. the price is PHP3650/$85.00

uhm about OCing my CPU, i'm really scared lol since the temperature here is hot especially at noon and i only have stock fan. right now, my CPU's Core1 is @ 40C while Core2 is @ 39C it's already 1AM here. XD
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November 25, 2010 3:15:16 PM

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Add RAM, those resolutions are what I game on my laptop, and so far the Hd4200 IGP is holding up well

It should be what's causing ur game problems, since a friend of mine ran both crysis and medal of honor with 8600GT and had none of ur problems with 4GB RAM and C2DE6600


is this the GPU he owns? http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gf8/8600gt_...
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a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2010 3:39:11 PM

I think the gt240 is a little more powerful then the gt430. At list according to toms charts it is 1 lvl higher.
Ok, no problem if you do not want to overclock the CPU.
When you buy a new card if it needs a PCI-e 6 pin power cable one is usually inside the box to adapt from the power supply.

What power supply do you have?
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November 25, 2010 10:36:59 PM

i have 500W PSU and my mobo is ASUS P5KPL-AM SE ;) 
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 9:21:46 AM

ejcelis said:
i have 500W PSU and my mobo is ASUS P5KPL-AM SE ;) 


What, not how many watts does it have. Generic PSU's are not that good and when stressed a little more thy tend to burn and sometimes burn the hole PC.
If it is a good brand he can run even a 5850. But if you can not afford the 57500 buy the gt240.

Please write what brand it is and model, if you can what it is written on that paper placed on it.

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November 26, 2010 9:39:28 AM

ionut19 said:
What, not how many watts does it have. Generic PSU's are not that good and when stressed a little more thy tend to burn and sometimes burn the hole PC.
If it is a good brand he can run even a 5850. But if you can not afford the 57500 buy the gt240.

Please write what brand it is and model, if you can what it is written on that paper placed on it.


uhm the sticker tells its from BBPHX Technology with a model no: ATX500W CE. this PSU is included with the casing i bought 2 years ago. uhm should i change my PSU 1st before replacing my GPU?

BTW, i saw Inno3D GT240 DDR5 it was really cheaper since it only cost around PHP3200/$75.00 unlike GT430 that has a price of PH3600/$85. but i don't know if its compatible with my mobo - ASUS P5KPL-AM SE.
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 10:06:42 AM

It is compatible. But check if the video card is PCI-E 2.0 and not 2.1 because 2.0 works better on PCI-E 16 slot. The new PCI-E standard is 2.0 witch is a little newer then yours(and mine).

Can you also afford a new PSU? I recommend you buy a new one, but ask here the models you can afford to buy before you do it.
Or give us a link to the store to see what models do they have for sell.

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November 26, 2010 12:56:29 PM

here's the GPU i wanna buy:

http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gtx200/gt24...

uhm in case that GT240 is not available, what other GPU would you recommend that has the same price and performance?

and here's the link for the pricelist (actually, this is the pricelist of all the shop's available items.):

http://pcx.com.ph/pricelists/2010-11-27-668.zip

the PSUs is on the 2nd page. uhm when it comes to PSUs, should i aim for a higher wattage? what's the best brand for it?

BTW the price depends on the PHP - $ exchange rate that's why prices are unstable here.

thanks a lot man;)
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 1:07:00 PM

ejcelis said:
here's the GPU i wanna buy:

http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gtx200/gt24...

uhm in case that GT240 is not available, what other GPU would you recommend that has the same price and performance?

and here's the link for the pricelist (actually, this is the pricelist of all the shop's available items.):

http://pcx.com.ph/pricelists/2010-11-27-668.zip

the PSUs is on the 2nd page. uhm when it comes to PSUs, should i aim for a higher wattage? what's the best brand for it?

BTW the price depends on the PHP - $ exchange rate that's why prices are unstable here.

thanks a lot man;)


Get the DDR5 version of the 240 if you can, it's faster than the DDR3 versions of the card and better value for your money!
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November 26, 2010 1:10:10 PM

yup, lol. i chose that GPU coz it's really affordable in my opinion :) 
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 1:12:14 PM

Well, in that case it's a good choice. A good card for a good price!
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 1:16:02 PM

It depends. In graphics intensive games you'll benefit more from a new GPU. From day to day Windows activities, the RAM will give you the most benefit.
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November 26, 2010 1:28:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHpB2XowUuQ

found this another GT240 DDR5 (Axle 3D) this one is much more similar to Inno3D.

i'm really confused, the website tells me that i need a 6pin power connector but i can't find where to plug it on the GPU. the same with this brand, now the box says "one 6pin supplementary power connector" but the guy talking said that it doesn't need any power connectors lol.

now, is there any difference from my preferred brand to the others? XD
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 2:21:35 PM

AFAIK the GT 240 does not require a power connector.

With regards to manufacturers, there isn't a huge difference between them. Some manufacturers put better cooling on their cards (which is useful if the card tends to run hot or you plan to overclock), some have a better warranty.

TBH this card isn't really going to suffer from cooling issues, so just go for the cheapest you can find!
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November 26, 2010 2:27:42 PM

that's what i noticed too. EVGA has a smaller fan than Axel 3D and Inno3D. i guess i should really go for a GPU that has a bigger fan for overclocking. lol.
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 2:36:44 PM

If that's what you're looking for, then go for it! You should be able to get a reasonable OC even with air cooling, which will give you that extra drop of performance. Go for the best cooling solution then, but make sure you have enough space in your case!
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November 26, 2010 2:43:22 PM

yup i still got enough space lol. anyway thanks for all those advice mates. if i haven't posted here at the first place, i'll never get to know a GT240 DDR5's affordability lol.

thanks again! ;) 
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November 26, 2010 2:44:30 PM

Best answer selected by ejcelis.
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a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2010 2:45:12 PM

No problem! Enjoy it, it will give you great performance and don't forget to add that RAM later on!
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