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Moderate level gaming PC..first timer

I have a very old 2000/01 Dell Dimension 4100 PC. I want to upgrade my desktop to a moderate level gaming PC. I will use it for regular applications such as school work, storing material, web surfing, some editing and video viewing, and I would like to play games. It doesn't have to be the top of line PC games, but moderate level. This is my first try at building a PC and it's a project I'm looking forward to. I would like to keep the same case. Thank you for any suggestions.
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  1. Budget?
    Country of residence?
    Preferred websites?
    Utilizing same monitor and peripherals?
  2. omnisome said:
    Budget?
    Country of residence?
    Preferred websites?
    Utilizing same monitor and peripherals?


    United States
    Budget: $800-1000 flexible..will go a little higher possibly
    Same monitor and peripherals
  3. Best answer
    there are several levels of PC:

    a basic desktop PC can be built for $200-300, that will do office work, simple photo manipulation (Uploading pictures to facebook, redeye removal, that sort of thing), web browsing and flash games.

    $300-450 can get you a basic home theater PC that can encode/decode HDTV-quality shows and do some VERY basic gaming. Athlon II X2 thrives here

    for $400-650 you can get you a basic gamer, good for whats out right now, but not likely to last more than a year or so before being obsolete. Athlon II X3/x4 systems

    $650-$1000 is a mainstream gaming box, with 1 high-power GPU or 2 middleweight ones, usually based on a 6-core Phenom of a Sandy Bridge CPU, though a Phenom II X4 might be at the lower end, should be good for 2-3 years of gaming power.

    $1000-1500 is an enthusiast level PC, with multiple high-end graphics cards and the very fastest CPUs. Sandy Bridge lives alone here, with multiple 570s, 580s, 6970s, and the 6990 as the gpus of choice. Easily 3 years of use. Bulldozer is going to release in a couple months in this same area.

    Above $1500 is sky's-the-limit powerful computers, whatever you get at this rate is going to be amazingly powerful, but may still be obsolete in 3 years or so, though at this end the systems have enough brute force to possibly push to a 4 year lifespan.
  4. ScrewySqrl said:
    there are several levels of PC:

    a basic desktop PC can be built for $200-300, that will do office work, simple photo manipulation (Uploading pictures to facebook, redeye removal, that sort of thing), web browsing and flash games.

    $300-450 can get you a basic home theater PC that can encode/decode HDTV-quality shows and do some VERY basic gaming. Athlon II X2 thrives here

    for $400-650 you can get you a basic gamer, good for whats out right now, but not likely to last more than a year or so before being obsolete. Athlon II X3/x4 systems

    $650-$1000 is a mainstream gaming box, with 1 high-power GPU or 2 middleweight ones, usually based on a 6-core Phenom of a Sandy Bridge CPU, though a Phenom II X4 might be at the lower end, should be good for 2-3 years of gaming power.

    $1000-1500 is an enthusiast level PC, with multiple high-end graphics cards and the very fastest CPUs. Sandy Bridge lives alone here, with multiple 570s, 580s, 6970s, and the 6990 as the gpus of choice. Easily 3 years of use. Bulldozer is going to release in a couple months in this same area.

    Above $1500 is sky's-the-limit powerful computers, whatever you get at this rate is going to be amazingly powerful, but may still be obsolete in 3 years or so, though at this end the systems have enough brute force to possibly push to a 4 year lifespan.


    The mainstream gaming box is more along the lines that I'm interested in. But I need suggestions or specifics on the part I should seek with my budget. $800-1000. For example what motherboards, hard drives, or video cards should I use. Thank you.
  5. Case - $70 - Antec 300 Illusion http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
    PSU - $90 - Antec TP-650 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021
    MoBo - $390 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.575884
    CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2500K
    RAM - $80 - 2 x (2 x 2GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260
    GFX - $250 - Asus GTX 560 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121424
    HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
    DVD Writer - $22 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135221

    Total $967


    -Assume as a student you can get OS (Win7-64 Home Pre really cheap, other wise add $100)
    -The 560 Ti is nVidia's latest and greatest.
    - Can drop one of the RAM sets starting out for a $40 savings
    -The PSU will handle two 560's in SLI, if you gonna seriously OC the cards and the CPU, would suggest spending another $20 on the XFX Black Edition 850.
    -No CPU cooler needed with OC's up to 4.6 GHz (See Guru3D Sabertooth P67 review fro guidance)
  6. Here is a very nice system for you that comes in at $864.91 before shipping and rebates:
    AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
    ASRock 890FX DELUXE3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157196
    SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102909
    CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260
    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
    COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
    CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible ...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
  7. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&cm_re=i5-2500k-_-19-115-072-_-Product - Intel i5-2500k
    $225.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363&cm_re=gtx_560-_-14-125-363-_-Product - Gigabyte GeForce GTX560Ti 1GB
    $250.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135279 - ECS P67H2-A3
    $100.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260 - Corsair XMS3 (2x2GB PC3-12800)
    $50.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009 - Corsair TX850
    $130.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216
    $15.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136544 - WD Caviar Black (640GB 7200rpm SATA3 3.5" w/ 64MB Cache)
    $70.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137 - Coolermaster RC690KKN1GP
    $80.00


    Total:
    $985.00 (without postage fee)

    or

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849&cm_re=phenom_ii-_-19-103-849-_-Product - AMD 'Thuban' 1090T
    $230.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&cm_re=hd6850-_-14-102-908-_-Product - Sapphire Radeon HD6850 1GB
    $175.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131647 - Asus M4A87TD EVO
    $100.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227495 - OCZ Obsidian (2x2GB PC3-12800)
    $45.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 - Corsair TX750
    $110.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216
    $15.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136544 - WD Caviar Black (640GB 7200rpm SATA3 3.5" w/ 64MB Cache)
    $70.00

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137 - Coolermaster RC690KKN1GP
    $80.00


    Total:
    $825.00 (without postage fee)
  8. either is pretty decent
  9. I have a slightly different build option for you, with a single high-end GPU:

    Intel i5-2500K + Gigabyte GA-P67-UB3 mobo: $329.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.575883
    Also a free copy of Civ V

    G.Skill 8 GB RAM: $77.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

    EVGA GTX 570: $349.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593
    Free copy of Just Cause 2 and Mafia II

    SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze PSU: $69.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096
    (yes, it can handle this gpu and processor, 48 amps on the 12v rails)

    Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB HDD: $59.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

    LG 22x DVD burner: $15.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

    Rosewill Destroyer case: $39.99 w/ Promo Code
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144

    4 Extra fans, Rosewill 4-pack: $7.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200061

    Coolermaster Hyper 212+: $29.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

    Shipping: $13.34

    Total: $995.24
  10. Thank you for all of your suggestions. Anything decent in the $800 range.
  11. take my build, change the PSU to a S12II 520W (save $10), change the GPU to a GTX 460 or HD 6580 (save $170), and its $815
  12. Could I still use my old Dell 4100 Dimension case on any of these suggestions? It's an old case and probably doesn't allow enough circulation. I just like the case look.
  13. Best answer selected by neiru.
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