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January 25, 2011 8:18:46 PM

I have a very old 2000/01 Dell Dimension 4100 PC. I want to upgrade my desktop to a moderate level gaming PC. I will use it for regular applications such as school work, storing material, web surfing, some editing and video viewing, and I would like to play games. It doesn't have to be the top of line PC games, but moderate level. This is my first try at building a PC and it's a project I'm looking forward to. I would like to keep the same case. Thank you for any suggestions.
January 25, 2011 8:22:35 PM

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Utilizing same monitor and peripherals?
January 25, 2011 8:26:15 PM

omnisome said:
Budget?
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Utilizing same monitor and peripherals?


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Budget: $800-1000 flexible..will go a little higher possibly
Same monitor and peripherals
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a b B Homebuilt system
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January 25, 2011 8:33:10 PM
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there are several levels of PC:

a basic desktop PC can be built for $200-300, that will do office work, simple photo manipulation (Uploading pictures to facebook, redeye removal, that sort of thing), web browsing and flash games.

$300-450 can get you a basic home theater PC that can encode/decode HDTV-quality shows and do some VERY basic gaming. Athlon II X2 thrives here

for $400-650 you can get you a basic gamer, good for whats out right now, but not likely to last more than a year or so before being obsolete. Athlon II X3/x4 systems

$650-$1000 is a mainstream gaming box, with 1 high-power GPU or 2 middleweight ones, usually based on a 6-core Phenom of a Sandy Bridge CPU, though a Phenom II X4 might be at the lower end, should be good for 2-3 years of gaming power.

$1000-1500 is an enthusiast level PC, with multiple high-end graphics cards and the very fastest CPUs. Sandy Bridge lives alone here, with multiple 570s, 580s, 6970s, and the 6990 as the gpus of choice. Easily 3 years of use. Bulldozer is going to release in a couple months in this same area.

Above $1500 is sky's-the-limit powerful computers, whatever you get at this rate is going to be amazingly powerful, but may still be obsolete in 3 years or so, though at this end the systems have enough brute force to possibly push to a 4 year lifespan.
January 25, 2011 9:52:45 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
there are several levels of PC:

a basic desktop PC can be built for $200-300, that will do office work, simple photo manipulation (Uploading pictures to facebook, redeye removal, that sort of thing), web browsing and flash games.

$300-450 can get you a basic home theater PC that can encode/decode HDTV-quality shows and do some VERY basic gaming. Athlon II X2 thrives here

for $400-650 you can get you a basic gamer, good for whats out right now, but not likely to last more than a year or so before being obsolete. Athlon II X3/x4 systems

$650-$1000 is a mainstream gaming box, with 1 high-power GPU or 2 middleweight ones, usually based on a 6-core Phenom of a Sandy Bridge CPU, though a Phenom II X4 might be at the lower end, should be good for 2-3 years of gaming power.

$1000-1500 is an enthusiast level PC, with multiple high-end graphics cards and the very fastest CPUs. Sandy Bridge lives alone here, with multiple 570s, 580s, 6970s, and the 6990 as the gpus of choice. Easily 3 years of use. Bulldozer is going to release in a couple months in this same area.

Above $1500 is sky's-the-limit powerful computers, whatever you get at this rate is going to be amazingly powerful, but may still be obsolete in 3 years or so, though at this end the systems have enough brute force to possibly push to a 4 year lifespan.


The mainstream gaming box is more along the lines that I'm interested in. But I need suggestions or specifics on the part I should seek with my budget. $800-1000. For example what motherboards, hard drives, or video cards should I use. Thank you.
a b B Homebuilt system
a b 4 Gaming
January 25, 2011 10:33:54 PM

Case - $70 - Antec 300 Illusion http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $90 - Antec TP-650 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $390 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2500K
RAM - $80 - 2 x (2 x 2GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $250 - Asus GTX 560 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $22 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $967


-Assume as a student you can get OS (Win7-64 Home Pre really cheap, other wise add $100)
-The 560 Ti is nVidia's latest and greatest.
- Can drop one of the RAM sets starting out for a $40 savings
-The PSU will handle two 560's in SLI, if you gonna seriously OC the cards and the CPU, would suggest spending another $20 on the XFX Black Edition 850.
-No CPU cooler needed with OC's up to 4.6 GHz (See Guru3D Sabertooth P67 review fro guidance)
a b B Homebuilt system
January 25, 2011 10:37:52 PM

Here is a very nice system for you that comes in at $864.91 before shipping and rebates:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASRock 890FX DELUXE3 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 26, 2011 6:04:31 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Intel i5-2500k
$225.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Gigabyte GeForce GTX560Ti 1GB
$250.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - ECS P67H2-A3
$100.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Corsair XMS3 (2x2GB PC3-12800)
$50.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Corsair TX850
$130.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$15.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - WD Caviar Black (640GB 7200rpm SATA3 3.5" w/ 64MB Cache)
$70.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Coolermaster RC690KKN1GP
$80.00


Total:
$985.00 (without postage fee)

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - AMD 'Thuban' 1090T
$230.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Sapphire Radeon HD6850 1GB
$175.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Asus M4A87TD EVO
$100.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - OCZ Obsidian (2x2GB PC3-12800)
$45.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Corsair TX750
$110.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$15.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - WD Caviar Black (640GB 7200rpm SATA3 3.5" w/ 64MB Cache)
$70.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Coolermaster RC690KKN1GP
$80.00


Total:
$825.00 (without postage fee)
a b B Homebuilt system
a b 4 Gaming
January 26, 2011 3:57:17 PM

either is pretty decent
a b B Homebuilt system
a b 4 Gaming
January 26, 2011 4:36:59 PM

I have a slightly different build option for you, with a single high-end GPU:

Intel i5-2500K + Gigabyte GA-P67-UB3 mobo: $329.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Also a free copy of Civ V

G.Skill 8 GB RAM: $77.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA GTX 570: $349.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Free copy of Just Cause 2 and Mafia II

SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze PSU: $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(yes, it can handle this gpu and processor, 48 amps on the 12v rails)

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB HDD: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG 22x DVD burner: $15.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Destroyer case: $39.99 w/ Promo Code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4 Extra fans, Rosewill 4-pack: $7.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Coolermaster Hyper 212+: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Shipping: $13.34

Total: $995.24
January 27, 2011 5:43:13 AM

Thank you for all of your suggestions. Anything decent in the $800 range.
a b B Homebuilt system
a b 4 Gaming
January 27, 2011 11:32:23 AM

take my build, change the PSU to a S12II 520W (save $10), change the GPU to a GTX 460 or HD 6580 (save $170), and its $815
January 27, 2011 9:23:46 PM

Could I still use my old Dell 4100 Dimension case on any of these suggestions? It's an old case and probably doesn't allow enough circulation. I just like the case look.
February 4, 2011 4:54:25 AM

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