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January 25, 2011 11:36:15 PM

I am about to do an upgrade on my computer so I am giving my mom my motherboard and CPUw/cooler.

She has a recent HP desktop that is AM3, so I will use her DVD, HD, and Memory!

I know her cheap 300watt psu is not worthy of her new build, and her case isn't big enough to handle the ATX mobo.

The power needs will be minimum. She is going to be buying a HIS 5450 thats self powered so pretty much it just has to handle the one hard drive, AMD 965 and then the basics: printer, 20" lcd and a 500gb external hd.

I am thinking a 100$ targetish:

Case: CoolerMaster 912 seems to be the best case

PSU: This is the harder one, I know the dangers of buying cheap because cheap psu=dead pc.

I have only used Corsair, so I am looking at the CX series mainly the CX430 or CX500.

But I want to ask what PSU's should I stay away from, and which ones to consider.
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January 26, 2011 12:45:33 AM

Well the case is definitely a nice one.

THe antec seems to have all the right specs especially for that prices range. I know I read some bad things about the corsair CX series, people saying that antec is beating them hardcore with good prices and Bronze!

Is this model capable of handling a 965 and everything else?
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January 26, 2011 1:22:09 AM

The hard drive, dvd and memory will be power efficent.

My UD5 and 965 would be the new parts that are for performance.

Well I know many psu's have the strength but a lot will be made like crap, just $hitted out. I don't want any time release smoke bombs included.
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January 26, 2011 1:32:03 AM

You don't like the antec? or do you just want more options because I can tell you right now the antec is the best.
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January 26, 2011 1:57:40 AM

No, not all. I was reflecting on how its hard to find the a good solid psu, not to mention in that price range!!

My mom is actually just thinking about it, because she can either just pop the 965 in her setup, or if she wants the mobo she will have to get a case to hold the ATX form factor and I told her to get a new psu because I don't trust stock HP 300watt psu's.

I am not sure on this, but if she does take the motherboard, I will have to reinstall windows on her harddrive, so I will have to back up all of her photos and stuff.

So I might end up just doing the CPU, and selling my UD5 on the black market/ebay/KSL(Salt Lake City local eBay)

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January 26, 2011 2:01:21 AM

Ohh sorry misunderstanding.

Okay sell ze UD5 on whatever charges the least to list, most likely black market
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January 26, 2011 2:08:04 AM

KSL is a classified online which is completely free and people are way more trusting and more likely to buy.

I have sold several things there before, usually I just do a public meeting spot, keep the goods in the trunk, and have them inspect it and do everything in cash.

I also know several places that might buy it, usually at 25% less than what I would get but its a solid resource, just guys who own internet cafes and sell parts!
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January 26, 2011 2:10:48 AM

I want to switch subjects on what I am doing on my end.

I am getting the i7 2600, and I am trying to get a good mobo.

I would prefer the P67 UD5 because its identical to the mobo were talking about, but its hella $$$

The UD4 is more up my alley, and seems to carry all the same inputs minus the piping from the north bridge to the south.

But do you know if the GA-P67A-UD4 is a good buy?? It seems to have everything I could possibly need and some!
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January 26, 2011 10:55:49 PM

Thats funny cause I chose to go with the asrock extreme4 because it can do things better than its fatal brother. Then toms round up showed it as one of the toughest competitor and pretty much can do anything any other board can.

I thought about getting the extreme6, but I know the extreme4 can perform better than it or equal, but the thought of having the extra "flare" might be nice, but I dont think it will utilized. THey are pretty much the same thing and perform the same.

I chose it, and now I was going to get a 2nd set of 1600 2x2gb cas7, to equal 4x2gb total. BUt I was thinking of getting newer faster memory something like a 2133 cas 7 or a 2000 cas 7, but I don't if I will see more performance in 8gb of 1600 cas7 or 4gb or 2133 cas7??

Besides for those I am getting the 2600k and two samsung f3 1tb's.
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January 26, 2011 11:12:34 PM

1600 cas 7 is the most I would buy and remember that SB doesn't support 2000mhz I would personally keep your current mem setup.

As for CPU looks good and for HDDs I would just get 1 2tb drive (RAID 0= 2x failure rate)
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January 26, 2011 11:33:28 PM

Well I was going to get a sata 3 64gb SSD, but thought it would better to just do raid. Its actually way faster than my caviar sata3 1tb, so I don't have to get two of them.

So you do think that the Extreme4 is way more price/performance over the Extreme6, I don't really think there is much more to the extreme6.

Well 1600 cas7 seems to be the ideal for most boards, 8gb's will be nicer for sure!
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January 26, 2011 11:55:42 PM

Go for an SSD once sf-2000 is released (2-3 months)

Yes

actually SB will overclock fine with 1333 cas9 but cas7 is better
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January 27, 2011 12:56:19 AM

I was going to get a SSD, but there like 2$ a gb. And I don't necessarily need my computer to load faster. I need more space before anything.

I thought with raid 0 I could get that extra space and the good speeds. I was told the ssd's only help programs load faster, not run faster. If I had the money I would get the SSD and the hard drives.

I have 1600 cas7 7-8-7-24-2t or something like that. I will be the 2nd set of the exact 2x2gb i have in my computer!



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January 27, 2011 12:58:26 AM

I could get all this if I spend the amount I will get for watching my cousins dogs.


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152185
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$69.99
$59.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
Item #: N82E16820231303
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$64.99


ASRock P67 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813157217
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
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-$7.00 Instant
$159.99
$152.99


Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
Item #: N82E16819115070
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
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$329.99


Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820148357
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$144.99
$134.99

Subtotal: $742.95
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January 27, 2011 2:13:33 AM

Wait for SSD, and get ripjaws x certified for p67 rest looks great :D 
Wish I had a cousin
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January 27, 2011 2:46:35 AM

Well she is quite the cousin, she is the one who gave me my Nissan Maxima 90' last year with 98,000 miles on it!

Yeah she offered me 175$ to watch her dog while she is in disneyland, so hell I would of done it for free, but she offered everyone she knew, and they all said no. So she needed to get someone before she could book today and get some discount.

Anyways, why would I wait? THe Crucial C300 is the fastest SSD on the market well the 256 and 128 are, but this 64gb is in the top 10ish.
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January 27, 2011 3:00:28 AM

So were talking x2 the read/write on the average SSD!

If I wait to spend her money, I can ask her not to pay me until the SSD comes out, she isn't leaving till end of April, but said she would pay me early.

Is the price of SSD going to drop??
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January 27, 2011 3:20:27 AM

a tinsy bit probably not much
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January 27, 2011 3:29:57 AM

So there is going to be a new line of SSD's, that are going to read/write at 300mb/500mb at sata 2 level, and will be available in March, a whole 1.5 months away.

I understand the performance is said to be great, but I am not rich and dont buy ssd's to store my photos on.lol(I wish) So I don't know how much faster windows could load, but if I could copy a 2gb movie in 2 seconds from ssd to another, well that is super fast, but I only need one for windows.
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January 27, 2011 3:31:53 AM

Yeah true but you'll be able to download games super fast as well as install windows super fast, I would personally wait.
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January 27, 2011 4:28:03 AM

I have quite an opportunity to enhance my build, I didn't plan to upgrade motherboard and cpu until bulldozer, but sandy bridge is actually affordable for the best! Thats why I got amd last time.

So my plan was to improve my computers performance as much as possible for the money I got, which is more than just a few hundred less than what I paid for the initial build.

Sandy was the most logical, even though i have a perfectly working 965/UD5, but if I was to spend 500$, sandy and her mother would improve it the most being just under $500, leaving me room for 275$ worth of extras. Potentially getting that 128gb ssd, or what ever else.

Besides for Sandy here is what I thought of:

SSD Crucial 64/128gb

8gb-16gb's of memory 1066-1333 cas9 or 2nd set of my 2x2gb

Samsung F3 1tb's possibly raid 0/1



So I just checked and I could get this setup and I think it would be the best suitable for the money:

Sandy 2600K

AsRock Extreme4

Crucial C300 128gb sata 3

and if I could sucker some more money from the teet, i would get a 2nd set of gskill 1600 cas7 2x2gb

making my computer superfasterxpealodious, imagine this:

Sandy 2600K
AsRock extreme4
212+
HX650
8gb 1600 cas7
1tb WD Black sata 3
Crucial C300 128gb
Asus DvD Burner
CM 692 advanced
Giga 5770SO
Windows 7 64bit Ultimate

Now that would be something else
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January 27, 2011 4:34:42 AM

I just read that if your Raid 0 it gives your double the read and write.

That means the crucial 128gb raid 0 would be 710 read and 280 write

and these new SSD's would be 1gb read and 800 write!

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January 27, 2011 11:54:42 PM

How about going with the 2500K, and buy a 90-100gb sf-2000 ssd then save the rest of the money for a GPU upgrade with the release of amd's 7000 series and nvidia's 600 series.
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January 27, 2011 11:55:09 PM

be aware that RAID 0 means no TRIM supported
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January 28, 2011 1:05:36 AM

I was looking at the SSD's and always just assumed that the C300's were the fastest read/writes

The vertex 2 has a good solid 285/275, but is maxed at 300 and no more.

This seems to be faster, because of the write speeds are just under 4 times faster, and the read time is just under the limit.
Since I do have sata 3 I would get 356 read, but if it reads something 5 seconds quicker, then Its going to take 20 seconds longer to write, you know what I mean

I want to wait for either the SD, Intel's, or Microns new SSD. I read that we won't see them until the end of the year, not Q1.
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January 28, 2011 1:29:27 AM

I returned my iPad and now I got an extra 900$ from my ipad 16gb and its accessory's. So now I got plenty of cash to throw around.

I also concluded that with me getting a new cpu and mother board, all I would need to make a full computer is a Case and PSU.

I have everything from mouse/key/monitor to HD/DVD/windows, So I plan to either make a HTPC type computer even if it is not it a stand htpc case. Or I plan to get a case with a handle for remote use or LanPartys(not that I have ever done that before).

So I want to get a case and psu to put next to my Widescreen 55" 1080p HD TV, in the other room, where I can use it to relay all my videos through it via my homegroup, and will have countless uses for it.

I also can hook up it to, two monitors, so I will probably get a nice GPU for it!

Anyways If I add everything up, 500-600upgrade money+175dog money+850ipad money=1525-1625$

I will however be getting the archos 101 that I wanted to replace the iPad, so I still got over 1000$
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January 28, 2011 1:45:34 AM

Wait I'm getting really confused here, what do you want me to recommend? A case and PSU or what?
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January 28, 2011 3:45:35 AM

OH, I guess I was just telling you, not asking you.

I was just saying I plan to get an economical case and power supply for all my spare parts to make a full computer.

I am going to setup it up in my room, which is the family room, so i will be able to hook it up to my HDTV.

I would need a sound card, and 5.1 speakers, to make it a full system, but these things will be bought over time.

I have everything I would need to get it started!
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January 28, 2011 9:47:46 PM

Oh I have a full computer right now, when I buy the new cpu and mother board and take out my 965 and 890FXA-UD5, these amd parts with my spare parts, are enough for a 2nd computer.

So my computer setup will get the new Sandy and Mobo.

My current 965 and UD5 will be put into this new case I talk about, and it will be "htpc/2nd computer for my room", so the audio would be for the 890FXA-UD5.

The parts in my computer will be for the Sandy and mobo. The parts gathered in boxs will be hooked up with the 965 and UD5!


I might just by a regular case, and use my 55" screen for my monitor with the 2nd computer.
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