Will my system run on a 300 watts PSU ( with ati radeon 4670 or 4650)

HELLO EVERYONE !!! I KNOW I'VE BEEN ASKING D SAME QUESTION 4 QUITE A LONG TIME BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF MY PC CAN RUN ON A 300 WATTS PSU?
my pc specs :
Core i5 760 @ 2.8ghz
4GB DDR3 RAM
500GB hard disk
nvidia geforce 310 ( thats wat i wanna change to 4670 or a 4650 )
21.5" monitor
16X DVD+/-RW with Dual Layer Write Capability
for all the details click :
http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/inspndt/inspiron-580/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-580&s=dhs&cs=indhs1&~oid=in~en~78002~inspn_580_s241235in8~~

i wanted to ask how much power will my whole system need to be able to run with a ATI 4670 OR AN ATI 4650. I am buying da graphics card to play games like GTA IV and Mafia II. AND PLEASE DONT SUGGEST ME ANY OTHER GRAPHICS CARD. will da 4650 be safer and if i'll be able to overclock it ???
I HAVE A 300 WATT PSU !!! thanx !!! to those who help me
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  1. No, not at all.
    That System consumes to much power for a 300 Watt to handle it. It is most likely an OEM too(Geforce 310) I'm not suggesting another graphics card for you but playing Mafia II and GTA IV is gonna lag but at the lowest settings. GTA IV is badly optimized and Mafia II is TWIMTBP.Both of those cards are poor in performance.
  2. ct1615 said:
    DELL has pretty solid PSU compared to most mass produced PC sellers.

    plenty of people on the DELL forum run the ATI 4670 & 5670 on the DELL 300w PSU.

    on a stress test with a CPU that is OC and consumes more power then yours, the total system power didn't break 250w. In gaming, total system power would be a bit less.
    Core i7 Test System Specs
    - Intel Core i7 965 Extreme Edition (Overclocked @ 3.70GHz)
    - x3 2GB G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 (CAS 9-9-9-24)
    - Asus P6T Deluxe (Intel X58)


    http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/240/bench/Power.png

    u know there is even monitor and that also requires power ...
  3. You power supply doesn't power your monitor. Just plug the monitor into the power strip/surge protector/outlet.

    To answer your question you are cutting close with that setup and only 300 watt power supply. Will it work, yes. Will you have random crashes and maybe damage your mobo or something else??? Most likely. Upgrade to at least a good name brand 450 watt ps.
  4. beekermartin said:
    You power supply doesn't power your monitor. Just plug the monitor into the power strip/surge protector/outlet.

    To answer your question you are cutting close with that setup and only 300 watt power supply. Will it work, yes. Will you have random crashes and maybe damage your mobo or something else??? Most likely. Upgrade to at least a good name brand 450 watt ps.

    well probably after 3 or 4 months i'm gonna upgrde to a 460 or 500 watts cooler master PSU . well the 460 watts should be enough ... rite ???? but after 3 or 4 months
  5. A good 460 watt ps will be enough for what planning on building. If you ever plan to add a second video card then you will need at least 600 watts.

    You will know if your 300 watt ps isn't keeping up if you keep crashing during intensive times like while gaming. If you really wanna know what your system is going to draw at max output buy a killawatt meter. It will show the wattage that is being drawn from the outlet. Then monitor it while running Furmark and P95 at the same time. Multiply the meter reading by 80% abd that will give you the actually power your pc is consuming. Of course running Furmark and P95 at the same time will draw more power than your computer will ever draw under normal use but that will tell you the worst case scenario.
  6. No it will not work...i just punched the numbers into a PSU calculator and with a 4670 your system will be running at about 349 Watts.

    1)Get a new Power Supply

    or

    2)Select a more lower powered Graphics Card

    Dunno if the numbers are right but it's sayin that right now without the upgrade your running at 284Watts,assuming the Geforce 310 is intergrated?
  7. If your trying to play games like GTA IV and Mafia II your gonna need to upgrade to a better graphics card than a 4670,you would be playing those games on the lowest settings with a 4670.A 5770 is a better option.

    Here is a 5770 and a XFX 600 Watt

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.553637
    $144 after MIR
    Great combo
  8. 460W PSU is more than enough for a RADEON HD 4650, but you can get even a stronger PSU for future upgrades.
  9. purple stank said:
    No it will not work...i just punched the numbers into a PSU calculator and with a 4670 your system will be running at about 349 Watts.

    1)Get a new Power Supply

    or

    2)Select a more lower powered Graphics Card

    Dunno if the numbers are right but it's sayin that right now without the upgrade your running at 284Watts,assuming the Geforce 310 is intergrated?

    its not integrated
  10. purple stank said:
    If your trying to play games like GTA IV and Mafia II your gonna need to upgrade to a better graphics card than a 4670,you would be playing those games on the lowest settings with a 4670.A 5770 is a better option.

    Here is a 5770 and a XFX 600 Watt

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.553637
    $144 after MIR
    Great combo

    i wrote " PLEASE DONT SUGGEST ME ANY OTHER CARD " SO PLEASE DONT CUZ thats the max i can get in the budget . i m a kid of 14 so i cant add more !!!
  11. tigrc said:
    460W PSU is more than enough for a RADEON HD 4650, but you can get even a stronger PSU for future upgrades.

    many people run the 4650 on 300 watts PSU and the guy who posted the pics also said that the 4670 will run on a 300 watts PSU
  12. shud i get the 4650 to be safe cuz i know it will give me more than 25fps in gta iv or will the 4670 run on that??
    on antec.outervision.com i put these settings
    System Type: Single
    Motherboard: Regular desktop
    CPU: Intel Core i5 760 2800Mhz ( not overclocked)
    CPU Utilization (TDP) (TDP 2): 90 %
    RAM: 2 sticks ddr3
    Video Card: ati radeon 4670
    Video Type:Single card
    Hard Drives: IDE 7200 rpm: 1 drive
    SSD Drives (Solid State Disk): none ( cuz i dont know wat that is)
    Drives:
    CD-RW Drive:1


    DVD/CDRW Combo Drive: 1
    and i get the minimum recommended PSU wattage : 257 watts
  13. Your PSU is more than enough to run HD4650 or even HD4670.
    Do you want to OC? Go ahead, you can OC, you have enough power, but seriously, OCing HD4650/4670 is not giving you big jump, just a little performance increase...
  14. apo1397 said:
    many people run the 4650 on 300 watts PSU and the guy who posted the pics also said that the 4670 will run on a 300 watts PSU


    I didn't say the 300 watt PSU won't handle it, I said the 460W PSU is enough, that's all.
  15. I would reccomend saving up for a 5770 and a new psu,should be less than $150.You won't be playing those games with good graphics espisally on your resolution of your monitor.It is never a good idea to run all your equipment near the max of your PSU.If you can wait go for a 5770 or higher with a new psu bundle,really not worth it to waste money on a 4670/4650 when you have an i5.
    ~Just my reccomendation.
  16. apo1397 said:
    many people run the 4650 on 300 watts PSU and the guy who posted the pics also said that the 4670 will run on a 300 watts PSU


    True -- Many people do it and even more people come on the forum asking why there system randomly reboots or shuts down when gaming !! --- THe PSU is one of if not the most important parts of your system when it comes to stability under stress so is not a part to barely get by on and spending a bit more to ensure you have enough good stable power to run your system is money well spent !! (besides the fact that if you do wind up blowing out the PSU by making it draw more power than it was designed to handle can take the other components in your system with it when it fails costing you much more money in the long run when you have to replace those parts along with getting a new PSU) -- Of course the final decision is yours and you'll only learn from experience.
  17. wa1 said:
    Your PSU is more than enough to run HD4650 or even HD4670.
    Do you want to OC? Go ahead, you can OC, you have enough power, but seriously, OCing HD4650/4670 is not giving you big jump, just a little performance increase...

    are u sure??? cuz others are saying it might/ might not work ??? do u hav any site to show that it will work but later i'll surely buy a new PSU
  18. prove? ct1615 has already posted above with chart, see above...
    Even on Furmark, the system wouldn't break 250W! Your Dell PSu has a good quality and it has 300W, it's more than what you need...
  19. YOu als need to take into consideration that there will be times when the parts of the system use more power than other times so using a PSU that barely supplies enough to run will at times exceed that usage and cause instability which can lead to shutdowns - which over a period of time may destroy your components or lose data on your HDD -- this is from an article on HDD power consumption :

    Quote:
    for example, the plain Barracuda 7200.8 may draw up to 2.5A from the +12 V line at start-up. Add 3 W drawn from +5 V to get the peak start-up power consumption of 33 W! What if there are two or three such drives in a system? In this case you should play safe and take a PSU at least by 100-150 W more powerful than processor+video+motherboard require. Food for thought.


    And figure your SYSTEM has a CPU that uses 95W - 4 gb. of RAM will use around 10W - the MOBO will use antwhere from 10W to 50W depending on the chipset and components

    SO your system is probably going to reach around 200+ Watts at times without the video card so is within range of a 300W PSU using the IGP and is why they used a 300W for the initial system -- Also you have to figure the efficiency of the PSU (most OEM psus are in the 70-80% efficiency so if it is pulling in 300W only 75-80% of that is actually converted to useable power (yeilding 225 - 240W of useable power) -- so adding another 60W useage by adding a new GPU to that system is going to put you right at if not a bit over the threshild for safety and it may work or it may be unstable during periods of peak usage (ie. startup - gaming) which can result in system freezes - loss of information due to corruption etc. but as I have said before the final decision on whether it is worth the risk is yours alone and only you can decide whether to take the chance !
  20. One way you can solve this...go add up all the numbers in a PSU calculator.
  21. i think you could maybe go for a go! green version of the HD5750. doesnt need a 6-pin pci-e cable so it uses around the same power as a gt240/HD4670. it is pretty costly though.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131346&Tpk=5750%20green
  22. Quote:
    what happened JDFan.? edit that first post did you.?

    not fine and their not risking anything.
    i mentioned that becuase in my configuration i have a 375-watt psu listed in the system i was referring too.
    so it's a matter of honesty than telling someone to risk their unit..
    thank-you.
    considering you don't even know me... :non:
    and with exclamation marks too.... :fou:
    having a bad day are we....? :kaola:


    Not sure what happened to the Post it somehow disappeared (not sure how that can happen after it was posted) but anyway -- it was just saying that if you were not even comfortable enough to keep the 300W unit instead of upgrading to a 375W unit for a similar system that is a third or fourth system - then why suggest to someone else that is using the system as a primary system and may have essential data on it to do that ? Even though DELL uses decent PSUs asking it to run at near capacity for daily use over an extended period of time is asking for problems and will eventually lead to an unstable system (PSUs degrade over time and running a PSU at near capacity shortens the length of time it will take to degrade ) So it is not good advice to tell someone that they'll be fine doing something like that without also including the fact that it will eventually lead to problems that may result in damage to other system components or loss of data !
  23. ATi recommends the 4350 for a 300W PSU. Good luck gaming on that. Just get a 500W and stop worrying about it...lol
  24. When I was looking around for a GPU to run on a 300W PSU I came across the 4670. The 4670 doesn't need an external power connector and draws all its power from the PCIe slot (which I think is 75W?). So the max power consumption it can draw is that. If I had a 4670 I'd throw into my second case (with the 300W PSU), no hesistation.
  25. plastichairball said:
    When I was looking around for a GPU to run on a 300W PSU I came across the 4670. The 4670 doesn't need an external power connector and draws all its power from the PCIe slot (which I think is 75W?). So the max power consumption it can draw is that. If I had a 4670 I'd throw into my second case (with the 300W PSU), no hesistation.

    but my processor consumes a bit more than normal 2 cores processor http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?pid=583&cpu=Core%20i5-760%20Quad%202.8GHz
    normally others consume around 65 watts whereas mine consumes 95 watts
  26. OMG, this thread will gonna be long...
    Just buy 500W PSU and you can use ANY single graphic card.
  27. ^Seconded.
  28. yesterday i assembled my pc !!! and it was pre installed so i just had to click next... i'll probably change da graphics card after sum days cuz my brother wont let me ( even tho he's in colege , cuz he''l be cumin 2moro) so maybe in jan and i'll ask 4 a new PSU also !!!
  29. I asked Dell Tech Support for the recommended graphics card and these r the options: Nvidia Gt220 and Gt240 , so i asked them about ati radeon 4670 wich consumed less power than the GT 240 and they said they r not sure if its compatible with the motherboard!!! Shudnt all the PCI-E card fit in the PCI-E slot of all the motherboards !!!!!!well how to know which motherboard u hav ???
  30. yeh all pci-e cards work in the same slot. the issue might be that you have a low profile/slim case. that means you have to use half height cards.
  31. apo1397 said:
    HELLO EVERYONE !!! I KNOW I'VE BEEN ASKING D SAME QUESTION 4 QUITE A LONG TIME BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF MY PC CAN RUN ON A 300 WATTS PSU?
    my pc specs :
    Core i5 760 @ 2.8ghz
    4GB DDR3 RAM
    500GB hard disk
    nvidia geforce 310 ( thats wat i wanna change to 4670 or a 4650 )
    21.5" monitor
    16X DVD+/-RW with Dual Layer Write Capability
    for all the details click :
    http://www1.ap.dell.com/in/en/home/inspndt/inspiron-580/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-580&s=dhs&cs=indhs1&~oid=in~en~78002~inspn_580_s241235in8~~

    i wanted to ask how much power will my whole system need to be able to run with a ATI 4670 OR AN ATI 4650. I am buying da graphics card to play games like GTA IV and Mafia II. AND PLEASE DONT SUGGEST ME ANY OTHER GRAPHICS CARD. will da 4650 be safer and if i'll be able to overclock it ???
    I HAVE A 300 WATT PSU !!! thanx !!! to those who help me


    I wouldn't do it. I would go with a 500 watt to be safe. 300 with get you by for a short time, but that hardware will tax it pretty rough. You can never have too munch power! Besides most cards these day require a 500 watt PSU or better.
  32. infernox_01 said:
    yeh all pci-e cards work in the same slot. the issue might be that you have a low profile/slim case. that means you have to use half height cards.

    nope its not the slim case
  33. Quote:
    for one, the training manual that I built for Dell, I took with me when I left.... (seriously... :fou: )
    and they do not know your system like the builders section in Dell but you can't reach them for support.
    I know what will work and what won't.
    period.
    and as for what motherboard you have, I can tell you that too with just a little more detailed info.
    exact model unit and service tag.?

    Model : Dell Inspiron 580
    Service tag: 6XNK7BS
    BY THE WAY i m in india and even at the tech support they asked the service tag and told me all about it
  34. i think i''l b keeping it
    i want to play games at 1440*900 or more but more than 1280*1024 cuz that doesnt luk gud in the monitor
  35. HD5670 looks like a good choice. as an alternative you could go for the GT240 or HD4670. if you want a card that uses less power, go for a HD5570 or HD4650.
  36. my wife runs a 4650 on a amd athlon 64 rig (old am2 socket)

    she had a decent 300 watt psu but it would glitch when gaming so we had to upgrade to a 400 watt, its been workign great since then
  37. Quote:
    so right now, you have a i5-760 with 4GB or 1333MHz RAM and a nVidia GT310 video card.?

    its not a gt its just geforce 310 same as geforce 210 but with ddr3 and more bandwidth
  38. Quote:
    how much are you trying to spend.?

    around 400 indian rupees and around $85. but in india grphics card are more expensive cuz for that money i get the max an ati radeon 4670
  39. g00fysmiley said:
    my wife runs a 4650 on a amd athlon 64 rig (old am2 socket)

    she had a decent 300 watt psu but it would glitch when gaming so we had to upgrade to a 400 watt, its been workign great since then

    how much power does your processsor consume ... see on this site http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?list=AMD
    just click on ur processor and it will tell u
  40. its a 93 watt cpu, that plus the 4650, but we also have several case cans to keep it cool and 3 HDD's she only had the power problem when she'd play WoW but we threw in

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817815007

    actually just got her the 4650 about 4 months ago so can't speak for the longevity of either btu it was on shell shocker for 40 bucks and it plays WoW at fair-good settings with fps in the 40's with a slight overclock
  41. Quote:
    HD4670 is actually a decent card.....
    HD5670 would of course be better.

    but thats wayyyyyof my budget !!!
  42. Still continue, eh?
    The answer is already given even from the beginning of this thread...
  43. wa1 said:
    Still continue, eh?
    The answer is already given even from the beginning of this thread...

    that means it will work cuz on other sites thepower consumption with core i7 920 and 6 gb ddr3 ram the power consumption did not go more than 230 watts
  44. Accorind to this review of the 5750,5670 and the GT240...
    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/01/14/amds_ati_radeon_hd_5670_review/7

    We will be using a Gigabyte EX58-UD5 motherboard, an Intel Core i7 920 Overclocked at 3.6GHz, and 6GB of Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D Dominator DDR3.

    Under a GPU full load,with the system included, none of the GPU's even got to 300Watts

    5750=268Watts
    5670=259Watts
    GT240=252Watts

    If you really wanted to push the evelope i'm sure you could even run a 5770 with your current setup.
    I would re-reccomend going with the 5670 for its DX11 capability and in all of those benchmarks it beat the GT240 by quite a difference.The safe spot is a 5670 but i'm sure your system is capable of running a 5770.
  45. I have Dell Inspiron with a Phenom x4 9650, 4 GB ram, 500 GB hard drive, and a DVD burner. I to wondered what was the best card without upgrading the power supply. I decided on the HIS 4670 with 1GB of ram. This machine has been running just fine for well over a year. I do not have system crashes and it runs very stable. I can play Call of Duty Modern Warfare, Modern Warfare 2, and Black OPs at 1925 x 1200 AA set to 4x and itis very playable on my 24" monitor. The Core i5 760 draws 95 watts, and my Phenom x4 9650 also draws 95 watts so I think it is very comparable. So the answer is a very emphatic yes. I was able to pick up my 4670 very cheaply at newegg with free shipping for $56.00. I am just a casual gamer that doesn't want to invest a lot of money but still would like to have a decent system.
    Patrick
  46. get ati hd 5670 for a few more bucks that will play your game or get the 8800gt if you can find one.
  47. pbr35586 said:
    I have Dell Inspiron with a Phenom x4 9650, 4 GB ram, 500 GB hard drive, and a DVD burner. I to wondered what was the best card without upgrading the power supply. I decided on the HIS 4670 with 1GB of ram. This machine has been running just fine for well over a year. I do not have system crashes and it runs very stable. I can play Call of Duty Modern Warfare, Modern Warfare 2, and Black OPs at 1925 x 1200 AA set to 4x and itis very playable on my 24" monitor. The Core i5 760 draws 95 watts, and my Phenom x4 9650 also draws 95 watts so I think it is very comparable. So the answer is a very emphatic yes. I was able to pick up my 4670 very cheaply at newegg with free shipping for $56.00. I am just a casual gamer that doesn't want to invest a lot of money but still would like to have a decent system.
    Patrick

    in gta iv or a mafia 2 how many fps will i get with the 4670 ???? cuz these games will be the most i'll play ! no crysis etc.
  48. apo1397 said:
    in gta iv or a mafia 2 how many fps will i get with the 4670 ???? cuz these games will be the most i'll play ! no crysis etc.


    I'm sorry I don't know about those games I only play the first person shooters like Call of Duty. But I would expect them to be playable.
    Have Fun
    Patrick
  49. If you get a 4670 you won't be able to play them on high or ultras but you will be able to on medium at about 40+FPS.You should just get the 5670 it would do better.
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