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Is Asus M4A785T-M compatible with Phenom II X4 975?

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April 24, 2011 6:21:35 AM

My current motherboard is Asus M4A785T-M and I'm using the Athlon II X4 630 processor which I found out have no L3 cache. I'm looking for an upgrade and the processor I have in mind is the Phenom II X4 975. I want a fast CPU as I like to play games very often. I updated my BIOS to the latest version and still I'm not sure if my motherboard will support the processor. Please help me. Oh! one last thing, Is the Phenom II X4 975 a good processor?
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April 24, 2011 9:59:04 AM

Yep, the Phenom is good and compatible but you can get the 955 and up the multiplier in the BIOS to 3.6 GHz. Your games will not run much faster, for gaming the video card matters much more.
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http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A785TM/

AMD® Phenom™ II/ Athlon™ X4/ Athlon™ X3/Athlon™ X2 processors (socket AM3)
This motherboard supports AMD® Socket AM3 multi-core processors with unique L3 cache and delivers better overclocking capabilities with less power consumption. It features dual-channel DDR3 1333 memory support and accelerates data transfer rate up to 5200MT/s via HyperTransport™ 3.0 based system bus. This motherboard also supports AMD® CPUs in the new 45nm manufacturing process.

AMD® 785G / SB710 chipset
AMD® 785G / SB710 Chipset is designed to support up to 5200MT/s HyperTransport™ 3.0 (HT3.0) interface speed and PCI Express™ 2.0 x 16 graphics. It is optimized with AMD's latest AM3 and multi-core CPUs to provide excellent system performance and overclocking capabilities.

DDR3 1800(O.C.) support
The motherboard supports DDR3 memory that features data transfer rates of 1800+(O.C.)/1600(O.C.)/1333/1066/800 MHz to meet the higher bandwidth requirements of the latest operation system, 3D graphics, multimedia, and Internet applications. The dual-channel DDR3 architecture doubles the bandwidth of your system memory to boost system performance, eliminating bottlenecks with peak bandwidths of up to 25.6 GB/s. Furthermore, the supply voltage for the memory is reduced from 1.8 V for DDR2 to just 1.5 V for DDR3. This voltage reduction limits the power consumption and heat generation of DDR3 which makes it an ideal memory solution.

PCIe 2.0 support
This motherboard supports the latest PCIe 2.0 devices for double speed and bandwidth which enhances system performance.

HDMI Support
Enjoy Full HD 1080p Multimedia Home-Theater Entertainment
High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) is a set of digital video standards that delivers multi-channel audio and uncompressed digital video for full HD 1080p visuals through a single cable. Supporting HDCP copy protection such as HD DVD and Blu-ray Discs, HDMI provides you with the highest-quality home theater experience.


Hybrid CrossFireX™ Support
Boosted Performance with onboard GPU and discrete graphics card
ATI Hybrid CrossFireX™ technology is a unique hybrid multi-GPU technology. It takes your gaming experience to the next level boosting PC performance by enabling the chipset’s integrated graphics processor and a discrete GPU to operate simultaneously with combined output for blisteringly-fast frame rates unleashing the graphics performance (Windows Vista® OS only).

EPU
System Level Energy Saving
The new ASUS EPU - the world´s first power saving engine, has been upgraded to a new 4-engine version, which provides total system power savings by detecting current PC loadings and intelligently moderating power in real-time. The EPU automatically provides the most appropriate power usage for the CPU, VGA card, hard drives and CPU cooler fan - helping save power and money.

Turbo Key
ASUS Turbo Key allows the user to turn the PC power button into an overclocking button. After the easy setup, Turbo Key can boost performances without interrupting ongoing work or games - with just one touch!!

GPU NOS
GPU NOS technology intelligently detects graphic loading and automatically boosts performance for the most demanding tasks. Unlike other dynamic overclocking techniques, GPU NOS reacts much faster to satisfy your need for graphic power.

*GPU NOS does not take effect under Hybrid CrossFireX mode.

Express Gate
0 to Internet in Seconds!
Express Gate™ is an ASUS exclusive OS that provides you with quick access to the Internet and key applications before entering Windows®.

EZ Flash2
Simply update BIOS from a USB flash disk before entering the OS
EZ Flash is a user-friendly BIOS update utility. Simply press the pre-defined hotkey to launch this tool and update BIOS from a floppy disk before entering the OS.

Q-Fan
ASUS Q-Fan technology intelligently adjusts CPU fan speeds according to system loading to ensure quiet, cool and efficient operation.

High Definition Audio
Enjoy high-end sound system on your PC!
The onboard 8-channel HD audio (High Definition Audio, previously codenamed Azalia) CODEC enables high-quality 192KHz/24-bit audio output, jack-sensing feature, retasking functions and multi-streaming technology that simultaneously sends different audio streams to different destinations. You can now talk to your partners on the headphone while playing a multi-channel network games. All of these are done on one computer.

MyLogo2
Personalize your system with customizable boot logo
You can convert your favorite photo into a 256-color boot logo for a more colorful and vivid image on your screen.

S/PDIF-out on Back I/O Port
This motherboard provides convenient connectivity to external home theater audio systems via coaxial and optical S/PDIF-out (SONY-PHILIPS Digital Interface) jacks. It allows to transfer digital audio without converting to analog format and keeps the best signal quality.

GreenASUS
The motherboard and its packaging comply with the European Union´s Restriction on the use of Hazardous Substances (RoHS). This is in line with the ASUS vision of creating environment-friendly and recyclable products and packaging to safeguard consumers´ health while minimizing the impact on the environment.



M4A785T-M
The following table shows the support for CPU / Motherboard
CPU
Since PCB
Since BIOS
Note
Athlon IIX2 215(ADX215OCK22GQ),2.7GHz,512KB,rev.C2,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
0306
Athlon IIX2 225(ADX225OCK22GM),2.9GHz,512KB,rev.C3,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX2 235e(AD235EHDK23GQ),2.7GHz,1MB,rev.C2,45W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX2 240(ADX240OCK23GQ),2.8GHz,1MB,rev.C2,65W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX2 240e(AD240EHDK23GM),2.8GHz,1MB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
1002
Athlon IIX2 240e(AD240EHDK23GQ),2.8GHz,1MB,rev.C2,45W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX2 245(ADX245OCK23GM),2.9GHz,1MB,rev.C2,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX2 245(ADX245OCK23GQ),2.9GHz,1MB,rev.C2,65W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX2 245e(AD245EHDK23GM),2.9GHz,1MB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
1002
Athlon IIX2 250(ADX250OCK23GM),3.0GHz,1MB,rev.C3,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX2 250(ADX250OCK23GQ),3.0GHz,1MB,rev.C2,65W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX2 250e(AD250EHDK23GM),3.0GHz,1MB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
1002
Athlon IIX2 255(ADX255OCK23GM),3.1GHz,512KB,rev.C3,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX2 260(ADX260OCK23GM),3.2GHz,1MB,rev.C3,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
1005
Athlon IIX2 265(ADX265OCK23GM),3.3GHz,1MB,rev.C3,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX2 270(ADX270OCK23GM),3.4GHz,1MB,rev.C3,65W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX3 400e(AD400EHDK32GI),2.2GHz,512KB,rev.C2,45W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX3 405e(AD405EHDK32GI),2.3GHz,512KB,rev.C2,45W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX3 405e(AD405EHDK32GM),2.3GHz,512KB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX3 420e(AD420EHDK32GM),2.6GHz,512KB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX3 425( ADX425WFK32GI),2.7GHz,512KB,rev.C2,95W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX3 435( ADX435WFK32GI),2.9GHz,512KB,rev.C2,95W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX3 435( ADX435WFK32GM),2.9GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX3 440( ADX440WFK32GI),3.0GHz,512KB,rev.C2,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0504
Athlon IIX3 440( ADX440WFK32GM),3.0GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX3 445( ADX445WFK32GM),3.1GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX3 450(ADX450WFK32GM),3.2GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX3 455(ADX455WFK32GM),3.3GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX4 600e(AD600EHDK42GI),2.2GHz,512KB,rev.C2,45W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX4 605e(AD605EHDK42GI),2.3GHz,512KB,rev.C2,45W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX4 605e(AD605EHDK42GM),2.3GHz,512KB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX4 610e(AD610EHDK42GM),2.4GHz,512KB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
1002
Athlon IIX4 615e(AD615EHDK42GM),2.5GHz,512KB,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX4 620(ADX620WFK42GI),2.6GHz,512KB,rev.C2,95W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX4 630(ADX630WFK42GI),2.8GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0206
Athlon IIX4 630(ADX630WFK42GM),2.8GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX4 635(ADX635WFK42GI),2.9GHz,512KB,rev.C2,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0504
Athlon IIX4 635(ADX635WFK42GM),2.9GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX4 640(ADX640WFK42GM),3.0GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
0805
Athlon IIX4 645(ADX645WFK42GM),3.1GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon IIX4 650(ADX650WFK42GM),3.2GHz,512KB,rev.C3,95W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Athlon X2 5200+(GM),2.3GHz,1MB,rev.C3,65W,AD5200OCK22GM,SocketAM3 ALL
2301
Phenom IIX2 545 (HDX545WFK2DGI),3.0GHz,80W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Dual-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX2 545( HDX545WFK2DGM),3.0GHz,512KB,rev.C3,80W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0603
Phenom IIX2 550 (HDZ550WFK2DGI),3.1GHz,80W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Dual-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX2 550( HDX550WFK2DGM),3.1GHz,512KB,rev.C3,80W,SocketAM3 1.01G
0603
Phenom IIX2 555( HDZ555WFK2DGM),3.2GHz,512KB,rev.C3,80W,SocketAM3 ALL
0603
Phenom IIX2 560(HDZ560WFK2DGM),3.3GHz,512KB,rev.C3,80W,SocketAM3 ALL
2201
Phenom IIX3 700e (HD700EOCK3DGI),2.4GHz,65W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Triple-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX3 705e (HD705EOCK3DGI),2.5GHz,65W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Triple-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX3 710 (HDX710WFK3DGI),2.6GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Triple-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX3 720 (HDX720WFK3DGI),2.8GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Triple-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX3 720 (HDZ720WFK3DGI),2.8GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Triple-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX3 740 (HDZ740WFK3DGI),3.0GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Triple-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 805 (HDX805WFK4FGI),2.5GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 810 (HDX810WFK4FGI),2.6GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 820 (HDX820WFK4FGI),2.8GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 900e (HD900EOCK4DGI),2.4GHz,65W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 905e (HD905EOCK4DGI),2.5GHz,65W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 910 (HDX910WFK4DGI),2.6GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 910E(HD910EOCK4DGM),2.6GHz,65W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core ALL
0504
Phenom IIX4 925 (HDX925WFK4DGI),2.8GHz,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 925 (HDX925WFK4DGM),2.8GHz,95W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0504
Phenom IIX4 945 (HDX945FBK4DGI),3.0GHz,125W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 945 (HDX945WFK4DGI),3.0GHz,2048KB,95W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 945 (HDX945WFK4DGM),3.0GHz,2048KB,95W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0504
Phenom IIX4 955 (HDX955FBK4DGI),3.2GHz,125W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 955 (HDX955FBK4DGM),3.2GHz,125W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0504
Phenom IIX4 955 (HDX955WFK4DGM),3.2GHz,95W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core ALL
1002
Phenom IIX4 955 (HDZ955FBK4DGI),3.2GHz,125W,rev.C2,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0206
Phenom IIX4 955 (HDZ955FBK4DGM),3.2GHz,125W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core ALL
0805
Phenom IIX4 965 (HDZ965FBK4DGM),3.4GHz,125W,rev.C3,SocketAM3,Quad-Core 1.01G
0504
Phenom IIX6 1035T(HDT35TWFK6DGR),2.6GHz,95W,rev.E0,SocketAM3,6-Core ALL
2002
Phenom IIX6 1045T(HDT45TWFK6DGR),2.7GHz,95W,rev.E0,SocketAM3,6-Core ALL
2201
Phenom IIX6 1055T(HDT55TFBK6DGR),2.8GHz,125W,rev.E0,SocketAM3,6-Core ALL
2006
Phenom IIX6 1055T(HDT55TWFK6DGR),2.8GHz,95W,rev.E0,SocketAM3,6-Core ALL
2002
Phenom IIX6 1075T(HDT75TFBK6DGR),3.0GHz,125W,rev.E0,SocketAM3,6-Core ALL
2201
Phenom IIX6 1090T(HDT90ZFBK6DGR),3.2GHz,125W,rev.E0,SocketAM3,6-Core ALL
2006
Sempron 145,SDX145HBK13GM,2.8GHz,1024K,rev.C3,45W,SocketAM3 ALL
1005
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April 24, 2011 10:21:56 AM

So if you have the latest BIOS it will run any AMD CPU currently available, have fun.
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April 24, 2011 1:05:12 PM

I would hold off on a CPU upgrade, once you have a quad core your usually in pretty good shape to support games. (yeah, you could pick up a Few FPS in some of your games with a faster CPU, but, not alot...)

What GPU are you currently running?

For the price of an AMD 975 ($190)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could get a really nice GPU like: ($180 after rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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April 24, 2011 1:09:42 PM

jb6684 said:
I would hold off on a CPU upgrade, once you have a quad core your usually in pretty good shape to support games. (yeah, you could pick up a Few FPS in some of your games with a faster CPU, but, not alot...)

What GPU are you currently running?

For the price of an AMD 975 ($190)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could get a really nice GPU like: ($180 after rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yes there is little difference between a phenomII and an athlonII.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-l3-cache,241...
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April 24, 2011 4:14:23 PM

My present configuration is Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
CPU
AMD Athlon II X4 630
Propus 45nm Technology
RAM
4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A785T-M (AM3)
Graphics
P225HQ (1920x1080@60Hz)
1024MB GeForce 9800 GT (ZOTAC International)
Hard Drives
977GB Western Digital WDC WD10EARS-00Z5B1 ATA Device (SATA)
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0 ATA Device (SATA)

Is it better to wait for the bulldozer processor?
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April 24, 2011 4:42:28 PM

jb6684 said:
I would hold off on a CPU upgrade, once you have a quad core your usually in pretty good shape to support games. (yeah, you could pick up a Few FPS in some of your games with a faster CPU, but, not alot...)

What GPU are you currently running?

For the price of an AMD 975 ($190)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could get a really nice GPU like: ($180 after rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 24, 2011 5:21:38 PM

Well the original question was, is your MB compatible with AMD 975, yes it is.......

You haven't said what your using the computer for, so, hard to direct you to the most bang for your Upgrade Buck....

- if your into playing games, your biggest bang for your buck is going to be to replace that 9800GT video card
- if your looking for performance in office suite applications or websurfing, don't bother NOTHING you do will really result in a noticeable difference in performance as these apps don't even tax what you have now
- if your running heavy Photoshopping, video editing again the right video card will increase performance Enormously if you have the version of these apps that leverage GPU acceleration. The other thing that would help is more RAM, BUT, you MUST have a 64 bit version of Win 7 install or you can't increase your memory beyond what you have. (the OS will not see or use it with 32 bit version...)


Haven't seen definitive proof yet, but, don't believe BullDozer will be compatible with any AM3 motherboards....
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April 25, 2011 5:39:54 AM

I did a bit of converting audio and video files and gaming mostly. I'm not an overclocker so I need a processor with high clockspeed. I was a bit interested in Phenom II X4 965 but it seems everyone says that the processor becomes very hot under normal load.
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April 25, 2011 5:44:20 AM

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April 25, 2011 11:51:17 PM

We'll I only dabble in OC'ing, but, AMD Phenom Black processors are sooo, simple to OC it's almost a crime not to. Just bump up the multiplier in the BIOS by one or two and your done. So, with an increase of 1/2 on the multiplier, your 965 equals a 970. With an increase of one your 965 becomes a 975.

I have an old AMD 940, runs at 3.0Ghz stock. It will run with an increase of two on the multiplier and stock voltages easy. So, 3.4Ghz, but I just surf the web with that system so I run stock but it was fun to try it.....

An OC where you increase the multiplier by 0.5, 1, 1.5, or 2.0 is very, very conservative and will be fine with the stock cooler and no 'fancy' voltage increases.

Newegg prices today, looks like AMD 965 is the bang for the buck choice.... $159 -$15 promotional card $146...


Yes, a 125watt chip will run pretty toasty with a stock cooler. It'll run close to the 70C limit under very, very heavy loads. Not a real problem, but, it will get a bit noisy. So, if you get the AMD 965 you can use your $15 Promo Card toward an aftermarket cooler that will lower temps but mainly it will be much, much quieter.

Good basic cooler many folks use:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ah, a quality product that I use and Highly recommend. DEAD Silent, great build quality, and really drops your temps.....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Background Data:

975 : 3.6Ghz : $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

970 : 3.5Ghz : $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

965 : 3.4Ghz : $159 - $15 Promotional Card $146 till 4/27....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

955 : 3.2Ghz : $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...





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April 26, 2011 6:18:37 AM

what if I don't overclock Phenom II X4 965, will it still runs hot on stock cooler? I think the stock clockspeed is enough for me. moreover my case has only one fan so I don't plan to overclock. But I'd sure love to learn how to overclock
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April 26, 2011 3:28:41 PM

From my experience with AMD 940, Intel i7-860, i7-930, and i7-950 (All 125 watt chips) They all run 30--40C at idle and 70C or above running a heavy load of Prime95 program.

I wanted to lower those temps a bit so I added the Noctua cooler. The i7-950 now runs 30C idle and max of 60C when running Prime95. The bigger change, CPU cooler is Dead silent the stock coolers all get pretty loud when under load.
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