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$1000-$1200 Multimedia/Adobe Photoshop & AE/Gaming SB Build (UPDATED)

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January 26, 2011 11:13:25 PM

Hi guys,

After much disappointment with my Dell Studio XPS 13 laptop I have had for the past two years, I have finally decided to sell it and build a custom desktop of my own. My budget is roughly between $1000 - 1200 (which the maximum I can go). I primarily would love to use this desktop for pure quality playback of my music library, pure quality playback of 1080p video, video editing for YouTube purposes, possible uses of the Adobe suite if needed, and maybe eventually gaming down the road. I want as customizable as possible and would love this computer to be future proofed as well as my budget allows me. Right now I have a few ideas in mind but I really need some help as to what is the best bang for the buck. Thanks everyone :) 
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Approximate Purchase Date: As soon as I sell off my Dell Studio XPS 13 so hopefully the near future once i get this build finalized.

Budget Range: $1000 - $1200 (maximum - depends on how much my laptop sells for)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: *Besides Documents & Basic OS Function*Music & Video (1080p) Playback, Adobe Photoshop & After Effects (Video Editing), Gaming --- These are all fairly important

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, OS, Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Amazon, Microcenter

Country of Origin: United States

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: not entirely sure off-hand what it maxes out at but i want to say 1900x1080 or 1900x1200

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Current Build as of 2-4-2011

Case: Antec Solo or Nine Hundred
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K or i7-2600K
MB: Asus P8P67 Pro or ASRock P67 Extreme4
GPU: GeForce GTX 560 Ti or GeForce GTX 570
PSU: XFX Black Edition 850W or Antec Earthwatts 750W
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600 (haven't decided about latency yet)
HDD (Personal Data): Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache
HDD (OS): Samsung Spinpoint F4 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drive: Either Samsung or Sony (undecided)

Would also like input on great sound card, headphones, and 5.1/7.1 surround sound options. Keep in mind I am open to doubling up monitors in the future as I would love to have this as future proofed as possible.
January 27, 2011 3:35:22 PM

I'm recommending this build for your usage. You still have to pick out a case & audio card. The GTX 560 is just out of the production line & can handle many games at high to maxed out image quality. You don't need anything more since you game occassionally. I strongly suggest you get a separate HDD for storage. Best with a eSATA enclosure. eSATA is as fast as SATA. Speed isn't an issue. Also, you can store your personal files on this drive. If the OS drive gives up the ghost or gets corrupt, your data is safe. The 500GB in my list is for OS & software. Anything smaller isn't worth the money, IMO.

The sound card you picked out is overkill. It'll be a waste if you don't have a quality set of speakers or headphones. I've always used onboard audio for years no problem. The onboard audio is getting better. It can do 24bit 192000hz 7.1 Studio quality. I listen to music & watch HD video on my rig. However, my files are on a gigabit server.

You don't need to overclock nothing. The 2500K will overclock up to 3.7ghz with Turboboast. It's on by default. However, the stock cooler may not be able to keep up at 3.7ghz all the times. So you might wanna get a 3rd-party cooler like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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January 27, 2011 5:15:31 PM

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I'm recommending this build for your usage. You still have to pick out a case & audio card. The GTX 560 is just out of the production line & can handle many games at high to maxed out image quality. You don't need anything more since you game occassionally. I strongly suggest you get a separate HDD for storage. Best with a eSATA enclosure. eSATA is as fast as SATA. Speed isn't an issue. Also, you can store your personal files on this drive. If the OS drive gives up the ghost or gets corrupt, your data is safe. The 500GB in my list is for OS & software. Anything smaller isn't worth the money, IMO.

The sound card you picked out is overkill. It'll be a waste if you don't have a quality set of speakers or headphones. I've always used onboard audio for years no problem. The onboard audio is getting better. It can do 24bit 192000hz 7.1 Studio quality. I listen to music & watch HD video on my rig. However, my files are on a gigabit server.

You don't need to overclock nothing. The 2500K will overclock up to 3.7ghz with Turboboast. It's on by default. However, the stock cooler may not be able to keep up at 3.7ghz all the times. So you might wanna get a 3rd-party cooler like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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I appreciate your input and thank you for the assistance. Just had some additional questions about some of the choices you have made.

Case: I have provided two cases I like just not sure which to go with. I think I am leaning toward the Antec 1200 Tower. Which towers do you guys prefer?

Audio Card/Sound Card: The reason initially I wanted a top quality audio card was for the exact purpose that I need to upgrade my headphones and speakers to top quality. Music is really important to me. Do you suggest that I upgrade for a more the expensive audio card once I have my speakers and headphones in place first? If so, what do you suggest in the meantime.

Additional HDD: I got kind of confused by this. You mentioned a 500GB drive but only suggested a 320 F4 down below. If someone could explain the advantages if any of a F4 over an F3 I would like to know because I was looking at the pricing and it didn't seem like I was getting full value for what you suggested. Just wanted some clarification because I do think that is a smart idea in case something goes absolutely wrong. Definitely want to do that just need to know how big of a drive to put in additionally.

Optical Drive: Any reason the Lite-On is better than the LG I have suggested above. I am just curious if you guys have had better responses with particular devices and if so I will take your word on that.

I think the rest of the suggestions make sense for my budget and I will be happy to consider them into my build. So for that, thanks so much for the help

Anyone else with thoughts?

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Updated my build in the first post.
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January 28, 2011 1:40:37 PM

For a media build, I would NOT get any case with a perforated front panel. The noise from the pc will go straight out the front into your ears. 900 is a good gaming case cuz we crank up the volume when we game. For high fidelity music, it's a bad choice. This is a sound-proofed case. I'd use it in your situation.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I agree that you should either use onboard audio or splurge on a quality audio card. The one you picked out is decent.

Samsung F4 is faster than F3. You want to have 2 drives: 1 for OS/apps; 1 for storage/music. In the event that your os no longer boots up, your data is safe.

LG is kinda picky about dvd media. If it can't recognize a blank disk, it'll freeze up & you can't access the dvd burner until reboot. It's your call. I have used too many LG burners. I no longer use LG. Right now it's Sony for me. Samsung is less picky.
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January 31, 2011 4:09:47 PM

Good to know about the LG drives. Alright I will switch that out to either a Sony or Samsung. In regards to the case, so you are saying that I should keep the sound isolated so it only gets played through any pair of quality speakers, hence better media sound quality? By chance, are there any alternatives to the case you mentioned just so I can have some options. I appreciate once again all your help as you have given me a lot of great advice and changes :) 

Also if anyone else has any other opinion or suggestions, I'd love to hear them.
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February 1, 2011 2:15:41 PM

That Antec Solo is the cheapest sound-proofed case. Others are more expensive. Finally I found pictures of the insides of the side panels. The dark brownish Polycarbonate material is sound-proofing. These photos are not at newegg.

http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/cases/antec/SOLO/index.ht...

Refresh this link twice to see the page:

http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MTk=

You either match a quality sound card with quality headphones/speakers or go cheap on everything. There's no middle which is a waste of money. As I said, the integrated audio is getting better. I've always used 'em. I think Soundforce (a few nForce chipset gens ago) was the turning point when people were starting to use integrated audio.
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February 1, 2011 10:06:23 PM

I appreciate the links. Just out of curiosity, do you have any previous experience with any quality headphones or speakers that you have liked or know of that are more professional grade so if I did get an upgraded sound card I could match it will the correct accessories by chance. It will be a while anyway considering I have to wait for this whole Sandy Bridge debacle to take its course so in the mean time I will research and finalize the possible build, which I may update soon :(  .

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February 2, 2011 10:34:10 AM

No, I'd be the wrong person to ask for quality audio. I've always used onboard video with $10 earbuds. Give 'em a budget & ask for the best audio solution here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-28-176.html

Intel says the SB problem has been fixed. Wiki says it'll be Feb. I say March/April cuz stores may still have the old stock. FYI, I got newegg email about my recent P67 purchase and they assured me that they extended the mobo store warranty to 90 days + manufacturer warranty.
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February 2, 2011 6:12:51 PM

Yeah, I'll do that soon later today. Thanks Sandy. Yeah I already read elsewhere the same thing that it would become available in March/April, so I will wait until then and then get underway with this project. I plan to upgrade my build later today, so please look out for the changes I make and maybe your opinion on them.
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February 4, 2011 10:50:04 PM

I have updated my build based somewhat on Sandy Bridge's previous help. Please let me know of further ideas. And yes I already know about the SB issue and will be waiting until March-April before I build this anyway.
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February 5, 2011 2:49:41 PM

aznshinobi said:
Here's some extra video quality, transcoding, encoding etc. etc. that I kinda dislike about Nvidia cards. Just saying.

Transcoding/Encoding w/ Cuda
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...
Video Quality:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hqv-2-radeon-geforc...

IMO I just don't think the Mercury Playback Engine is justifiable to sacrifice that kind of quality. But ya know just me.


Very interesting articles and I want to thank you for the information. Unless I am mistaken, the i5-2500K's integrated graphics would be disabled anyway because I have a separate GPU card in right? While interesting, I still think at the time SB will be relaunched that CPU mentioned will be the best bang for the buck anyway considering I don't currently have an i7. What are your thoughts? Also, do you think a Radeon 6950 or 6970 would be a better buy than the 560 Ti I have listed or upgrading a little more to a 570?
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February 5, 2011 8:28:47 PM

Yes that is true, but if you actually look at it, it states that although CUDA's transcoding/encoding is faster, It gave the final product worse quality video. I can't find any sources that directly review Cuda in transcoding quality =P So I just dug up the SB review.

Well because you are gaming at a high resolution, I would have picked the 6950 1GB. But the 560 Ti is also good as well. Both are highly recommended, the 6950 beats the 560 Ti @ stock settings in resolutions higher than 1920x1080 (so your resolution). But they're are 560 Ti SOC versions so, those are a pretty good deal as well.

Personally I wouldn't get the 570 because you don't really need it that much and the 6950 1GB (AT STOCK) beats it in Hi-Res gaming. The 560 Ti SOC could do the same. Also, getting a 560 or 6950 1GB would save you 100$ that you can put towards an SSD which really helps when your running editing because you can access them faster through Bridge (if you use it like I do)
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February 5, 2011 11:36:19 PM

aznshinobi said:
Yes that is true, but if you actually look at it, it states that although CUDA's transcoding/encoding is faster, It gave the final product worse quality video. I can't find any sources that directly review Cuda in transcoding quality =P So I just dug up the SB review.

Well because you are gaming at a high resolution, I would have picked the 6950 1GB. But the 560 Ti is also good as well. Both are highly recommended, the 6950 beats the 560 Ti @ stock settings in resolutions higher than 1920x1080 (so your resolution). But they're are 560 Ti SOC versions so, those are a pretty good deal as well.

Personally I wouldn't get the 570 because you don't really need it that much and the 6950 1GB (AT STOCK) beats it in Hi-Res gaming. The 560 Ti SOC could do the same. Also, getting a 560 or 6950 1GB would save you 100$ that you can put towards an SSD which really helps when your running editing because you can access them faster through Bridge (if you use it like I do)


Based off what you said, I decided to do some digging into the whole CUDA/SB/Adobe CS5 debate and have become really quite confused by the overload of information I have seen. Can someone please clear some of this information up for me. Which MB/CPU/GPU combo would be the best for my needs (music/video playback, PS, AE or Movie Maker, and gaming) first and foremost? What are the advantages and disadvantages of CUDA? Should I wait for Ivy Bridge and buy something in the meantime if SB isnt the answer or should I go ahead with SB.

In addition, which is better between the 560 Ti and 6950 1GB for the needs I have above and the needs of the programs I could have in the future?
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February 6, 2011 1:56:11 AM

Well I've never used Mercury Playback, so I really don't know Cuda's effects on it. But apparently Adobe says that it is a good thing. So I don't know. And to my knowledge you won't be missing out if you don't have CUDA because it's just one of those things that is a cool thing to have, but you don't need it. Kinda like Physics

Personally I don't think you'd be missing anything since PS doesn't seem to offer Mercury (Even though Adobe says their is, I've looked at everything in PS5 while I edit and I see nothing that'd be beneficial with Cuda. As for After Effects, I don't see a benefit either. FreddieW (Youtube movie maker) uses after effects and what it seems is though when he shows his tutorials, none of the things really require CUDA either. Movie Maker is not Adobe so no benefit their. Soooo

Pros:
Cool thing to have
In a way it helps processing power
Mercury Engine.
Adobe support
Cons:
Quality (Video Quality specifically)
Transcoding/Encoding
Most Adobe programs don't really benefit from it except Premiere.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adobe-cs5-cuda-64-b...
(At the bottom it says Cuda hasn't really been coded for AE because of OpenGL)

So personally I think either card is fine, but as an AMD fanboy I say the 6950 :p 
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February 6, 2011 3:41:04 AM

aznshinobi said:
Well I've never used Mercury Playback, so I really don't know Cuda's effects on it. But apparently Adobe says that it is a good thing. So I don't know. And to my knowledge you won't be missing out if you don't have CUDA because it's just one of those things that is a cool thing to have, but you don't need it. Kinda like Physics

Personally I don't think you'd be missing anything since PS doesn't seem to offer Mercury (Even though Adobe says their is, I've looked at everything in PS5 while I edit and I see nothing that'd be beneficial with Cuda. As for After Effects, I don't see a benefit either. FreddieW (Youtube movie maker) uses after effects and what it seems is though when he shows his tutorials, none of the things really require CUDA either. Movie Maker is not Adobe so no benefit their. Soooo

Pros:
Cool thing to have
In a way it helps processing power
Mercury Engine.
Adobe support
Cons:
Quality (Video Quality specifically)
Transcoding/Encoding
Most Adobe programs don't really benefit from it except Premiere.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adobe-cs5-cuda-64-b...
(At the bottom it says Cuda hasn't really been coded for AE because of OpenGL)

So personally I think either card is fine, but as an AMD fanboy I say the 6950 :p 


Okay so if CUDA is a bit over-hyped and isn't going to matter, is SB still a good choice or are there better options? In addition, I am also trying to come up with some alternative builds just to have in my back pocket if need be. Looking at an AMD Phenom II X6 1090T or 1100T build (or maybe something better bang for the buck like the AMD Phenom II X4 965) or a i7 950 build. If you don't mind, could you give some suggestions as to your thoughts about these and maybe the possible specs as you are an AMD guy :) 
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February 6, 2011 3:53:09 AM

hackattackcentral said:
Okay so if CUDA is a bit over-hyped and isn't going to matter, is SB still a good choice or are there better options? In addition, I am also trying to come up with some alternative builds just to have in my back pocket if need be. Looking at an AMD Phenom II X6 1090T or 1100T build (or maybe something better bang for the buck like the AMD Phenom II X4 965) or a i7 950 build. If you don't mind, could you give some suggestions as to your thoughts about these and maybe the possible specs as you are an AMD guy :) 

Give me a few minutes and I'l post you an i7 build in your price range. i7 or SB...anything but AMD. AMD is for people on food stamps, or third world country's imo. But with your budget there is no need to drag yourself down to an AMD build. It's like this...do you want to eat hot dogs, or steak ?
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February 6, 2011 4:03:56 AM

hackattackcentral said:
Looking at an AMD Phenom II X6 1090T or 1100T build (or maybe something better bang for the buck like the AMD Phenom II X4 965) or a i7 950 build. If you don't mind, could you give some suggestions as to your thoughts about these and maybe the possible specs as you are an AMD guy :) 


Whether Mercury Playyback Engine leverage is worth it entirely depends on the size of your projetcs :lol: 


Actually Icrontic got excellent results X6 + MPE in CS5 Premiere and u dun have to deal with mobos that cost an arm and a leg hehe
A case for GPU computing: Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 and the Mercury Playback Engine
http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/reviews/a-case-for-gp...
Quote:
This project consists of compressed 640×480 video footage. These small video files were being eaten alive by the massive 1090T hexa-core processor and 8GB of RAM. Premiere Pro CS5′s increased performance with multi-core systems coupled with bleeding fast hardware will make fast work of any simple projects such as this, not giving the GPU enough work to really make a difference. These results do suggest that if you’re editing small-time video footage, you will not benefit much from using Mercury Playback.


So

Items off Egg $519AR


$240: 1090T + MSI 870A-G54 (ATX +USB/SATA 3.0)
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundl...

$759AR in total base build

Optionals

60GB SSD Sandforce based $105AR Free Ship (Boot/OS)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Scythe MUGEN-2 Rev.B cooler $34
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MUGENB&tit...

Review
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lga-1156-heatsink,2...
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February 6, 2011 4:07:47 AM

Why_Me said:
Give me a few minutes and I'l post you an i7 build in your price range. i7 or SB...anything but AMD. AMD is for people on food stamps, or third world country's imo. But with your budget there is no need to drag yourself down to an AMD build. It's like this...do you want to eat hot dogs, or steak ?


Well the reason why would have been considering the AMD as an option is because I still need speakers and a quality sound card additionally (especially the speakers). That could equally between the two rack me up to $300 - 400 dollars for quality product. Wouldn't be a bad idea to bank some of the money if I could was my thought. I understand that it is a bit outdated, but I need to leave all options open. Doesn't mean I will jump to either side just yet. The AMD build I would like to have as an alternate I would like to be around $600 - 700, and the Intel builds to be around $1000 maybe a little over.
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February 6, 2011 4:12:14 AM

You add the case. btw that h/s comes with decent thermal compound so no need to tack any on this build.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 - $99.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-X58-Extreme-CrossFireX-Mot... $142.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASRock X58 Extreme Core i7 / Intel X58/ DDR3/ Quad CrossFireX & Quad SLI/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $334.95 - $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $314.95
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V REV.W with ACK-I5361 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler I7 i5 775 1155 ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $89.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Radioactive 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998983

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $18.99 FREE SHIPPING
LG Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99 FREE SHIPPING
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $269.99
GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N560SO-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $1,030.90 *not including shipping, rebates, etc..
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February 6, 2011 4:15:11 AM

hackattackcentral said:
Well the reason why would have been considering the AMD as an option is because I still need speakers and a quality sound card additionally (especially the speakers). That could equally between the two rack me up to $300 - 400 dollars for quality product. Wouldn't be a bad idea to bank some of the money if I could was my thought. I understand that it is a bit outdated, but I need to leave all options open. Doesn't mean I will jump to either side just yet. The AMD build I would like to have as an alternate I would like to be around $600 - 700, and the Intel builds to be around $1000 maybe a little over.

I can post you a SB build that runs cheaper than that 17 build I just posted. Either from Amazon com where you don't use the SATA II ports, or wait a month until the new SB boards come out. Personally I would wait. But AMD has nothing that can touch an I7 and/or a SB build.
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February 6, 2011 4:18:49 AM

hackattackcentral said:
Well the reason why would have been considering the AMD as an option is because I still need speakers and a quality sound card additionally (especially the speakers). That could equally between the two rack me up to $300 - 400 dollars for quality product. Wouldn't be a bad idea to bank some of the money if I could was my thought. I understand that it is a bit outdated, but I need to leave all options open. Doesn't mean I will jump to either side just yet. The AMD build I would like to have as an alternate I would like to be around $600 - 700, and the Intel builds to be around $1000 maybe a little over.


More than doable - no CF/SLI rather mindless to pay for over priced chipsets/mobos and look for 1090T deals/combos floating around and your desired price point more than doable :lol: 
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February 6, 2011 4:21:55 AM

For a work rig i would rule out SB immediately - lack of dependability SATA port wise compromises data integrity big time so no no for most rigs but especially for a work rig

Sandy Bridge chipset flaw to cost Intel $1 billion
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/sandy-bridge-chipset-flaw-to-cost-intel-1-billion/11157

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All 6-series “Cougar Point” chipsets, including H67 and P67, are affected. The issue is a hardware design problem that causes high number of bit errors eventually device disconnection.
There is no software fix for this issue. All affected systems will need a motherboard replacement.



http://techie-buzz.com/tech-news/intel-halts-sandy-bridge-shipment.html
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as it is always with breakthroughs and mad scientist experiments, they go horribly wrong and destroy the world. Well, Sandy Bridge has not reached that danger level yet, but its shipment sure had to be halted due to a flaw in the chipset.

A design flaw caught after the product goes into production is a serious blow to the lineup and attracts double losses, monetary as well as confidence of users. Intel has been quick in detecting the flaw and responding to it. What remains to be seen is how device manufacturers are retaining the trust of their customers.

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February 6, 2011 4:26:30 AM

hackattackcentral said:
Well the reason why would have been considering the AMD as an option is because I still need speakers and a quality sound card additionally (especially the speakers). That could equally between the two rack me up to $300 - 400 dollars for quality product. Wouldn't be a bad idea to bank some of the money if I could was my thought. I understand that it is a bit outdated, but I need to leave all options open. Doesn't mean I will jump to either side just yet. The AMD build I would like to have as an alternate I would like to be around $600 - 700, and the Intel builds to be around $1000 maybe a little over.

That makes sense. I didn't figure on the sound card, speakers, etc... In that case I would have to say batuchka's build would be the way to go. :) 
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February 6, 2011 4:27:41 AM

Why_Me said:
I can post you a SB build that runs cheaper than that 17 build I just posted. Either from Amazon com where you don't use the SATA II ports, or wait a month until the new SB boards come out. Personally I would wait. But AMD has nothing that can touch an I7 and/or a SB build.


Right now, I am just biding my time by uncovering other builds that may suit my needs for a better price. I just want to know all my options both high and low for my own knowledge. That's all. I understand your position on this issue, and will take it into account because I too am still leaning that way as of right now. If you would care to post an SB that runs under a grand or care to evaluate mine I would definitely appreciate that too :) .
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February 6, 2011 4:32:07 AM

batuchka said:
For a work rig i would rule out SB immediately - lack of dependability SATA port wise compromises data integrity big time so no no for most rigs but especially for a work rig

Sandy Bridge chipset flaw to cost Intel $1 billion
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/sandy-bridge-chipset-flaw-to-cost-intel-1-billion/11157

Quote:
All 6-series “Cougar Point” chipsets, including H67 and P67, are affected. The issue is a hardware design problem that causes high number of bit errors eventually device disconnection.
There is no software fix for this issue. All affected systems will need a motherboard replacement.



http://techie-buzz.com/tech-news/intel-halts-sandy-bridge-shipment.html
Quote:
as it is always with breakthroughs and mad scientist experiments, they go horribly wrong and destroy the world. Well, Sandy Bridge has not reached that danger level yet, but its shipment sure had to be halted due to a flaw in the chipset.

A design flaw caught after the product goes into production is a serious blow to the lineup and attracts double losses, monetary as well as confidence of users. Intel has been quick in detecting the flaw and responding to it. What remains to be seen is how device manufacturers are retaining the trust of their customers.


Well I never said this would be a full work rig lol. I do want to use it for entertainment purposes as well (hence multimedia and gaming as in my wants above). I am open to CF/SLI down the road and will probably OC my CPU. The PS and AE would be on my own time and personal use for now. Hope this clears things up. I already know about SB :( .
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February 6, 2011 4:41:34 AM

Yep - if u wish to game past 1920 x 1080 i.e 30" display or Eyefinity 5760 x 180 high end CF/SLI makes sense and said config is more than suffices for your needs IMO ^^
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February 6, 2011 4:47:12 AM

batuchka said:
Yep - if u wish to game past 1920 x 1080 i.e 30" display or Eyefinity 5760 x 180 high end CF/SLI makes sense and said config is more than suffices for your needs IMO ^^


The i7 build or my build for SB?
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February 6, 2011 4:49:33 AM

I woudn't go SB so X58/AM3 : your call/budget
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February 6, 2011 4:51:17 AM

batuchka said:
I woudn't go SB so X58/AM3 : your call/budget


If you don't mind can you give me a quality AM3 build to consider?
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February 6, 2011 5:15:13 AM

Yep u are welcomed ^^
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February 6, 2011 7:56:49 PM



This is what I have come up with so far. It is over-priced for how much I would like to pay for an AMD build so maybe I could have some help narrowing it down. I only want good and quality brands/items in here please. Here it is.


Case: Antec Solo Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $94.99
CPU & MB: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX; MSI 870A-G54 Socket AM3 870 ATX Motherboard - $239.98
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundl...
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100312SR Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity - $259.99 (after rebate)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBRH - $109.99
PSU: XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - $109.99 (after rebate)
CPU Cooler: Scythe MUGEN-2 Rev. B cooler - $34.99
HDD 1 (Personal Data 1st HDD – RAID 1 config): SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive – $59.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
HDD 2 (Personal Data 2nd HDD – RAID 1 config): SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive – $59.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
HDD 3 (OS Data): OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - $104.99 (after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical Drive: Samsung or Sony (no more than $20)

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February 8, 2011 4:37:33 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on the above build. The motherboard is what I am concerned about mainly. Thinking maybe I should get something comparable now and then upgrade the MB when the new AM3+ socket motherboards come out. Thoughts? Would like to keep this build I think around $700-800 ideally.
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February 9, 2011 2:57:51 AM

For the $$ thats as good as it gets got 1090T/870 combo if no CF needed ^^
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February 9, 2011 1:24:34 PM

Is that the best 870 board from Microcenter's combo page? Still need to drop this build by at least $100 bucks without sacrificing quality. Any ideas?

Sorry just not sold on that MSI right now from everything I have been reading.
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