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April 25, 2011 3:49:47 AM

So I'm running a Dell XPS 400. Specs from the system window read as:

Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80 GHz
Memory 3582 MB
System Type 32-bit OS (Windows Vista)
ATI Radeon HD 3600
C: 104GB of 144GB
D: 50GB of 71GB

Now after a little research on MOBO and CPU's, after this bright idea my crappy dell MOBO is what is slowing me down, I needed more specific info so I came across CPU-Z or CPUID. Now it holds alot of info most of which could be made up for all I know. Here is snipets of the report hopefully including the important specs.

CPU:
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name Intel Pentium D 820
Package (platform ID) Socket 775 LGA (0x4)
Core Stepping B0
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 2793.2 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 14.0 x 199.5 MHz
Rated Bus speed 798.1 MHz
Stock frequency 2800 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T

Chipset:
Northbridge Intel i945P rev. 00
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) rev. A1
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 332.5 MHz (3:5)

MOBO:
Mainboard Model 0FJ030
Made by Dell


Ok so now to the why I think its slow and how I judge it. My old lady has a computer that is fairly similar except its custom built. She has a 3 core AMD CPU, 4GB DDR2 Ram, same OS. We both play rift she plays at medium high settings with little to no lag. I play at the lowest possible settings in game and through my GPU control center. It never runs smooth, if I'm alone in a field with not so much as a tree around I lag.

Should I buy a new mobo that supports all current hardware. For now im looking for a cheap short term fix. something under 200-150. eventually I plan to build from scratch starting with CPU+MOBO hopefully utilizing some of my current hardware until i can afford new. Which leads me to another question can a DDR3 MOBO support DDR2? Thats enough for now thanks for any and all help



















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April 25, 2011 4:18:50 AM

Hello, and welcome to THG.

Seems like you need a whole new computer. I would say get a better processor. Pentium D? I know P4's are still around, but from what you have just explained, it seems a better computer would suit you.
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April 25, 2011 5:28:11 AM

I agree with dogman get a new computer...Build one yourself they are way better plus no junkware from dell/hp/gateway, just stuff that you'll never use and only slows down your machine. But if your not in the market for a new PC I would upgrade you video card, you can get a radeon HD 4850 on ebay for about 50 bucks, installation is a sinch and it should improve your gaming experience. I know the HD 4850 is two year old tech but it will still crush the low end new stuff at the same price range.
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April 25, 2011 6:06:02 AM

Get a GTX 460 768mb card
this is best deal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

these are your specs
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps400/sm...

the dell 375w can handle the gtx460
You need to check to see if it has the PCI_E 6pin connector
it comes with a 4 pin molex power adapter if you dont have the plug on PSU

it is $125 after rebate on USA Newegg

Great thing is you can use it in new build
Still a very powerful and up to date card
also look for a SLI motherboard in your planned future build
and you can run two of these together
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April 25, 2011 6:53:00 AM

A pentium d is about 5 years old . I'd be surprised if it has half the real computing power of a triple core AMD cpu

Not worth upgrading . Too old
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April 25, 2011 6:53:54 AM

Nice choice but requires 500watts which is a little too much for the Dell
375w continous (@450 max) Power Supply

The GTX 460 spec sheet
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-460-us...
shows it needs only 450w which that number is usually inflated by video card makers

One thing I noticed about the GTX 460 is it needs two 6pin connectors
so you would have to make sure you have the right adapters
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April 25, 2011 6:55:15 AM

Outlander_04 said:
A pentium d is about 5 years old . I'd be surprised if it has half the real computing power of a triple core AMD cpu

Not worth upgrading . Too old

LOL!
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April 25, 2011 6:56:14 AM

Outlander_04 said:
A pentium d is about 5 years old . I'd be surprised if it has half the real computing power of a triple core AMD cpu

Not worth upgrading . Too old



he is looking for a quick upgrade now until
he does new build
as he stated in his original post

so if he gets a 768mb GTX 460 now which will
definilely improve his games

he can then use the card in his planned future build

please read the posts completely and try to
help the poster instead of pushing
your personal opinions
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April 25, 2011 7:05:06 AM

i think it would have some bottle neck issues.But he could transfer his gtx 460 to his newer pc later on.
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April 25, 2011 7:13:09 AM

The only thing I am worrying about is the need
for two 6 pin connectors

I am not sure if his power supply has any
If he doesnt

He would need two 4 pin molex power connectors
and two 4 pin to 6 pin adapters

the XPS might only have one molex
I am not sure
So he would also have to get a 4 pin molex splitter

If he only has one molex then that means that
he would have both 6 pins on one 12v rail

He would probably be alright but
I would fell better if he had two molex off of different
rails for connecting

The great thing is on his new build he
could get a sli board
and pick up a second card

Dual Asus OC'd GTX 460 768mb DirectCU cooling
is a very respectable setup
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April 25, 2011 7:41:35 AM

king smp said:
he is looking for a quick upgrade now until
he does new build
as he stated in his original post

so if he gets a 768mb GTX 460 now which will
definilely improve his games

he can then use the card in his planned future build

please read the posts completely and try to
help the poster instead of pushing
your personal opinions



I dont think you would get anywhere near the full potential of a GTX 460 , and since thats already replaced by the GTX560 its probably a fairly limited future path to buy in to

IMO if all you want is a quick cheap gfx card then get a 9800GT or Ati 4850 off Ebay .

Anything else is just not worth it IMO

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April 25, 2011 8:14:38 AM

looking for something to carry to future build
that would work in current system

He could always SLI with another GTX 460 in future build

Dual GTX460 will match up or beat a GTX560
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April 25, 2011 8:15:24 AM

Outlander if you can suggest a card that would work in current system
and be good for future build
then please do
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April 25, 2011 12:31:24 PM

A 5770 is a good low power option for just over $100 or even a 5670 would give you a good improvement. You could consider an Athlon II X3 and an AM2+ board so you can keep you RAM. This board is only $45 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and an Athlon X3 is around $80 add these to a 5770 and you have a good gaming PC
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April 25, 2011 3:53:37 PM

A 5770 is a good option also

as far as cpu/mobo (which the X3 Rana would be good choice as simon12 pointed out)

But remember the OP has a Dell system so really hard to swap in
a standard form factor mobo

he would need to also get a case and PSU for new build
which he is planning in the future
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April 25, 2011 4:17:07 PM

looking at this
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/293177-33-hd5770
the GTX 460 outperforms the HD5770 according to general consesus

the HD 5830 would be the direct competitor to the GTX 460

I think if the OP would want to run dual cards later
the GTX 460 because the Nvidia drivers are more stable than ATI
(alot of complaints about CF with ATI drivers)
would be a better choice

as a single card option than the HD5830 would be worth
looking at
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October 27, 2011 2:18:32 AM

hola desde mexico ,
te agradecere que me ayudes en esto quiero mejorar mi vieja DELL dimension 9150 (made in usa ) = dell xps 400 y otras , tiene un cpu intel pentium d 830 , quiero cambiarselo por un pentium d 930 o 940 o 959 o 960 , consume 55 watts menos y tiene casi un millon de transistores mas , se parece en todo a la serie 8xx , si no puedes ayudarme , pasale este mensaje a alguien que domine los cambios d ecerebro ( cpu upgrade ) . no quiero gastar 90 us + ph + custom duty usa-mexico y que no me sirva .
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