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January 27, 2011 9:02:20 PM

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

KINGWIN Lazer LZ-750 750W Modular 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC W/ 3-Way LED Switch and Universal Modular Connector Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock P67 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake Frio Overclocking-Ready Intel Core i7 (six-core ready) & i5 Compatible Five 8mm Heatpipes Dual 120mm Fans Intel ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also am i forgetting anything (other than a graphics card) that I will need? I have never built a system from scratch before so any advice would be appreciated. I have been opn the hunt for a great build for a while now (as some of you may already know lol) and just want to make sure I get it right.

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January 27, 2011 9:57:27 PM

The graphics configuration is the # 1 consideration for a gaming PC. It is more important than even the cpu and drives many other considerations.
What did you have in mind, and awhat resolution will you be gaming at?

As to your parts:

Kingwin is not on my short list of quality psu's. I like Corsair, Seasonic, PC P&C, XFX, and Antec. A good 650w unit will power the strongest video card made today.

Caviar black is a better performer than blue.

For the extra $15 price, I would get the "K" version of the 2500.
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January 27, 2011 11:03:14 PM

From what I can see the K version only offers intel graphics 3000 as opposed to 2000 on the standard. I dont know for sure but I thought that had to do with the onboard video and a good GPU would override it anyway.

My HDTV is 1360x768. So i will be gaming at an odd resolution, just complicating things a bit.
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January 27, 2011 11:07:17 PM

Manji022 said:
From what I can see the K version only offers intel graphics 3000 as opposed to 2000 on the standard. I dont know for sure but I thought that had to do with the onboard video and a good GPU would override it anyway.

My HDTV is 1360x768. So i will be gaming at an odd resolution, just complicating things a bit.

The "K" version is also "unlocked" allowing you to over clock it. If you don't plan on over clocking then don't get the K version and stick with a H67 mobo, if you do plan on over clocking you want a P67 mobo with a K version cpu.
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January 27, 2011 11:23:47 PM

oh, I see. Thanks for that! I was just messing around on Newegg and put together an AMD build too.

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive Black SATA Model GH22NS50B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ZALMAN CNPS8000A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total:642.92

Intel build is the same except the mobo and CPU are the above mentioned. Upgraded the cpu to K
Total: 769.92

is the i5 build woth the 127 dollar difference?
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January 27, 2011 11:34:42 PM

intel build at 696.92 after swapping parts as suggested..
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January 28, 2011 12:03:33 AM

Manji022 said:
intel build at 696.92 after swapping parts as suggested..
The Intel will definitely be worth the extra 55$, even more so considering the possible OC ;) 
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January 28, 2011 12:43:26 AM

ok, now. I am debating if I want to upgrade my GPU, or just keep my 512 9800 GT. I am lost on which card is good and which is crab compared to my current choice.

Scratch that, I KNOW I am going to replace my card, it keeps crashing (just confirmed it) so it needs to go. Shame too, I loved this card, it worked so well for me.
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January 28, 2011 1:05:17 AM

Look at this chart, basically any card over 150$ will be significantly better ;) . What resolution will you be playing at and what games?
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January 28, 2011 1:21:04 AM

1320x768 and mostly stuff like Black Ops and Civ5, really just whatever strikes my fancy at the moment. I have a very large game collection that ranges from X-Com (still my fav) to Crysis to Black Ops to Civ 5

I was thinking of a EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1367-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Maybe get a second one later for sli
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January 28, 2011 1:21:38 AM

Here ya go. It includes a new vid card, after market h/s (thermal paste comes w/it), etc....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.95
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99
SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $123.99
ASRock P67 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $243.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $39.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996768

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99 FREE SHIPPING
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $16.99 FREE SHIPPING
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $179.99 (Before $10.00 Mail-In Rebate) FREE SHIPPING
MSI N460GTX -M2D1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $784.37 *not including shipping, rebates, etc..
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January 28, 2011 1:28:35 AM

is 520w really enough? I am unsure and I only know that when building it on Ibuypower it says that card requires more power
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January 28, 2011 1:35:01 AM

Manji022 said:
is 520w really enough? I am unsure and I only know that when building it on Ibuypower it says that card requires more power

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1279... <--- you have plenty of room to spare with that psu. That Seasonic psu I put in that build is 40amp single rail. That gives you head room to over clock your cpu. :) 
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January 28, 2011 1:43:59 AM

Manji022 said:
is 520w really enough? I am unsure and I only know that when building it on Ibuypower it says that card requires more power

If you want more headroom in case you decide to upgrade that vid card at a later date...then for only $10 more get his psu down below. This psu down below will run a gtx 580 safely.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
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January 28, 2011 2:56:13 AM

The 650w antec is cheaper but perhaps there is another reason you reccomend the Seasonic? I know that the different PSUs have different features and that the seasonic may be a better choice but I do not know why it would be. I am still learning a lot about the different components that go into building a good machine.
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January 28, 2011 3:01:29 AM

Manji022 said:
The 650w antec is cheaper but perhaps there is another reason you reccomend the Seasonic? I know that the different PSUs have different features and that the seasonic may be a better choice but I do not know why it would be. I am still learning a lot about the different components that go into building a good machine.

That antec earthwatts is a decent psu imo.
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January 28, 2011 3:18:42 AM

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
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COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
243.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ASRock P67 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
123.99

G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
104.99

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
64.99

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1367-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
179.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
59.99

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case (LOVE the look of this, anyone think I should have concerns?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
69.99

LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive Black SATA Model GH22NS50B - OEM
15.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total: 863.91 (before shipping)

Is buying the Gskill memoery better than getting something like: G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

one is 1333 and one is 1600. They are both 2x4GB and both Gskill. The price difference is $40. Is it worth paying the 40 for 1600?
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January 28, 2011 4:28:26 AM

Check my post out please...the one where I posted a build on this thread. Nix the WD 500 Black...not only is it slow, your screwing yourself out of a faster 1TB h/d for the same price. Also I posted a faster DVD RW (24x) for only $2 more than that LG you have on there. And do you really plan on using 8 gigs of RAM ? It's a gaming rig yes ? 4 gigs of RAM is more than fine imo. And seeing how you have that 460 SE in your build, and not the o/c 460 you might as well get a 500w psu...and that vid card...the "SE" version is a 460 that's had it's testicles removed. Some how the total cost of the build went up, yet your getting less...
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January 28, 2011 4:35:48 AM

Thanks. I am checking your build now, sorry I somehow didnt do it before.

Approximate Purchase Date: next week, monday probably


Budget Range: up to 900 but the cheaper the better :) 


System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, video editing, photoshop, movies, internet


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor,


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com


Country of Origin: USA, MI


Parts Preferences: i5 2500K


Overclocking: Yes


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe


Monitor Resolution: 1360x768

Additional Comments: a white and blue case would rock, also quiet is good since my PC is always near my bed
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January 28, 2011 5:05:40 AM

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive is better, thanks for that. I am not good with the numbers but now I understand them. So, taking your advice (except the card, I think the new one I selected is better but not sure) this is what it looks like:

Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 768-P3-1362-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ... (Iwill want sli at some point so i want to keep a psu that can do that)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock P67 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

TOTAL: 812.91

The case is a bit more than the one you suggested, but I really like the look of it. The memory is a bit more too, but I think 1600 is faster than 1333 right? I have been told that the speed of your memory is important but I could be wrong on that too. Thanks a lot for the help too, it IS appreciated greatly.
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January 28, 2011 5:11:49 AM

Now you got it !!! :) 
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January 28, 2011 5:14:25 AM

Awesome! Was I right about the memory though, or does it matter much. It is an $8 difference between the two. Is it worth the 8 for 1600 as opposed to 1333.

Sorry for all the questions, but I have to get this right the first time pretty much. Tax returns only come once a year lol.
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January 28, 2011 5:18:33 AM

Manji022 said:
Awesome! Was I right about the memory though, or does it matter much. It is an $8 difference between the two. Is it worth the 8 for 1600 as opposed to 1333.

Sorry for all the questions, but I have to get this right the first time pretty much. Tax returns only come once a year lol.

12800 will work fine. 1333 (1066) is the most stable seeing how it's the default..it's plug and play. But that G.Skill you chose is good stuff and will do fine. That and the heat sinks look nice :) 
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January 28, 2011 5:20:34 AM

Great! Thanks again for your help! I think this is the one for me :) 
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January 28, 2011 5:26:44 AM

Best answer selected by manji022.
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