Pretty sure my Graphics card is fried but I need a second opinion
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mike12nite
November 29, 2010 3:30:47 AM
when I play games, every 2 minutes it lags really badly, no matter what the game or how good or bad the graphics are. It's definitely not a software problem because I've reinstalled windows a bunch of times (I've also tried 3 different hard drives), I'm gonna buy a new graphics card but I want to be sure it's my graphics card that's the problem.
I have an MSI 9500 GT (it's about a year old).
I also have an AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core processor and 4 gigs of ram (both a year old).
My Motherboard is still pretty new
I'm using Windows XP
Could this be a processor problem or a motherboard problem? I don't want to buy a new graphics card and it turns out it's not the problem.
I have an MSI 9500 GT (it's about a year old).
I also have an AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core processor and 4 gigs of ram (both a year old).
My Motherboard is still pretty new
I'm using Windows XP
Could this be a processor problem or a motherboard problem? I don't want to buy a new graphics card and it turns out it's not the problem.
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mike12nite
November 29, 2010 4:10:49 AM
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Use this:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
or
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
Well, for me, above 80'C is HOT.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
or
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
Well, for me, above 80'C is HOT.
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mike12nite
November 29, 2010 4:28:39 AM
mike12nite
November 29, 2010 4:38:14 AM
mike12nite
November 29, 2010 4:39:13 AM
mike12nite
November 29, 2010 4:43:42 AM
mike12nite
November 29, 2010 5:01:29 AM
mike12nite
November 29, 2010 5:15:14 AM
wa1 said:
And the lags are there?Have you tried the other games? Because CoD BO is not good game to test, lags are everywhere even with high end gaming PC...
Yeah it's the same lag pattern in all the games I play. The same way it lagged in this game is the same way it lagged on MW2 and Medal Of Honor. Lag-normal-lag-normal-lag-normal-lag and so on. it's like that through of the whole game (on everygame I play on any setting).
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mike12nite
November 29, 2010 5:19:44 AM
wa1 said:
And tell us your FULL specs in detail...CPU-Mobo-RAM-PSU-Monitor? Detail please...
300 Watt Power Supply
3 GB kingston RAM
MSI 9500 GT 512mb
ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 Mobo
AMd Athlon 2X Dual Core 5200+
Btw this graphics card never used to do this it used to play games just fine (MW2 TF2 Crysis). But now it does this on all games.
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mike12nite
November 29, 2010 5:42:20 AM
mike12nite said:
300 Watt Power Supply3 GB kingston RAM
MSI 9500 GT 512mb
ASUS M2N68-AM SE2 Mobo
AMd Athlon 2X Dual Core 5200+
Btw this graphics card never used to do this it used to play games just fine (MW2 TF2 Crysis). But now it does this on all games.
What's your OS? The first thing I thought of when you stated your problem was slow swap-file access and virtual memory being overly used, then you said 3GB...is this a 64-bit OS?
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tentaxlbunga
November 29, 2010 8:29:16 AM
firebird
November 29, 2010 3:44:16 PM
Maybe you could run task manager (resource monitor if Vista/7) and GPUZ on the sensor tab (check refresh while in background) in the background while playing your games.
Then alt-tab out or use the windows key when you're experiencing the lag and see what your PC is doing.
It might be heavy HDD use by another program, or maxed out CPU....
I'm not sure if Nvidia ever had the issue, but I've noticed if I leave another application like UltraVNC running, my GPU clocks will stay at "desktop" speed. I have 2 monitors so I keep GPUZ up on the 2nd....
Then alt-tab out or use the windows key when you're experiencing the lag and see what your PC is doing.
It might be heavy HDD use by another program, or maxed out CPU....
I'm not sure if Nvidia ever had the issue, but I've noticed if I leave another application like UltraVNC running, my GPU clocks will stay at "desktop" speed. I have 2 monitors so I keep GPUZ up on the 2nd....
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mike12nite
November 29, 2010 10:04:24 PM
firebird said:
Maybe you could run task manager (resource monitor if Vista/7) and GPUZ on the sensor tab (check refresh while in background) in the background while playing your games.Then alt-tab out or use the windows key when you're experiencing the lag and see what your PC is doing.
It might be heavy HDD use by another program, or maxed out CPU....
I'm not sure if Nvidia ever had the issue, but I've noticed if I leave another application like UltraVNC running, my GPU clocks will stay at "desktop" speed. I have 2 monitors so I keep GPUZ up on the 2nd....
Whenever the lag comes it goes up to 100% CPU usage. Then when the lag goes away it goes to about 87-97% PSU usage. And when I go to the main menu of the game (COD MW2) the PSU usage goes to around 50 percent.
So when the lag comes in it's at 100% PSU usage. So what does this mean exactly?
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firebird
November 29, 2010 10:09:38 PM
mike12nite said:
Whenever the lag comes it goes up to 100% CPU usage. Then when the lag goes away it goes to about 87-97% PSU usage. And when I go to the main menu of the game (COD MW2) the PSU usage goes to around 50 percent.So when the lag comes in it's at 100% PSU usage. So what does this mean exactly?
I would say upgrade your PSU. Your PSU is using everything its got.
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mike12nite
November 29, 2010 10:14:36 PM
firebird said:
Try killing all unnecessary applications (via task manager if you have to) and run the game again. If you have the process tab opened you might be able to catch which process is using up your extra CPU and causing your lag.Have you checked for a virus/spyware lately?
I've installed windows over and cleared it of everything on this computer multiple times so I don't think Spyware or Viruses are the problem (though I can't be sure). This happens when I just installed a fresh copy of windows and cleared the computer. But yeah every time the lag starts my PSU usage jumps up (the lag only happens in-game, I never have lag out of games).
Also when I close the game my PSU usage goes to the single digits like 1-6%
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tentaxlbunga
November 29, 2010 10:46:20 PM
firebird
November 29, 2010 11:01:12 PM
mike12nite
November 29, 2010 11:22:51 PM
firebird said:
What is your GPU usage like during games? During lag?Every time you say "PSU" usage, I'm assuming you mean CPU...???
What is the PSU? What resolution are you gaming at?
You've also mentioned that your PC has no cooling. Do you have any idea on the CPU temps while gaming?
My bad I did mean CPU. I have a 300 Watt PSU (This one exactly http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) It's a year old now ( built this computer more than a year ago though the Mobo is still pretty new)
I actually never turn off my computer so if the PSU was damaged it would make sense.
I play at 800 by 600 resolution though my monitor is 1024 by 768. I'm not sure what my CPU Temps are while gaming I'll check though.
Thanks a lot for putting up with me guys btw
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mike12nite
November 30, 2010 12:03:34 AM
firebird said:
What is your GPU usage like during games? During lag?Every time you say "PSU" usage, I'm assuming you mean CPU...???
What is the PSU? What resolution are you gaming at?
You've also mentioned that your PC has no cooling. Do you have any idea on the CPU temps while gaming?
Alright so here's the temperatures etc while gaming (I took this screencap while the game was lagging so you can get more information):
http://img831.imageshack.us/i/tempgaming.png/
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firebird
November 30, 2010 1:00:53 AM
A quick check on your CPU shows 1.3-1.35v for the CPU. You have 1.44v according to Speedfan. Either it's wrong or you are overclocking....
Also, what is the 78 degree temp for? Unless it's the GPU you've got issues...
I know speedfan is not the most reliable for voltages, but your P.S. ratings are high on the +5v rail. Never seen that before... but since it's not used for much it might not be an issue. You'd better check your BIOS to see what the *more accurate* readings are...
Also, maybe get a CPUZ screenshot to verify some things...
Also, what is the 78 degree temp for? Unless it's the GPU you've got issues...
I know speedfan is not the most reliable for voltages, but your P.S. ratings are high on the +5v rail. Never seen that before... but since it's not used for much it might not be an issue. You'd better check your BIOS to see what the *more accurate* readings are...
Also, maybe get a CPUZ screenshot to verify some things...
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mike12nite
November 30, 2010 1:37:14 AM
firebird said:
A quick check on your CPU shows 1.3-1.35v for the CPU. You have 1.44v according to Speedfan. Either it's wrong or you are overclocking....Also, what is the 78 degree temp for? Unless it's the GPU you've got issues...
I know speedfan is not the most reliable for voltages, but your P.S. ratings are high on the +5v rail. Never seen that before... but since it's not used for much it might not be an issue. You'd better check your BIOS to see what the *more accurate* readings are...
Also, maybe get a CPUZ screenshot to verify some things...
CPU-Z Stats while ingame:
http://img811.imageshack.us/i/cpuzstats.png/
CPU-Z Stats with no game on:
http://img220.imageshack.us/i/cpustats2.png/
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firebird
November 30, 2010 2:28:32 AM
mike12nite
November 30, 2010 3:20:10 AM
mike12nite
November 30, 2010 3:32:06 AM
firebird said:
So, CPUZ shows 1.5v and speedfan shows 1.44v. That seems way too high.I'd do some research on what the proper voltage for that is (unless you're water cooling and over clocking) because that could be a cause for issue.
Maybe someone who knows that CPU can chime in...
Well here's the information I got stright from the BIOS..
CPU Temp: 61'C
MB Temp: 41'C
VCore Voltage: 1.440V
3.3v Voltage: 3.136V
5V Voltage: 4.966V
12V Voltage 11.916V
I think this might mean I need a new PSU based on what I've been reading.
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firebird
November 30, 2010 10:22:27 AM
mike12nite
November 30, 2010 10:55:43 AM
under all the CPU information there was something called the Q-Smart fan that says it adjust the fan speed based on the temperature of the CPU and motherboard and it was off so I turned it on. I'm gonna try and lower the vaultages. Do I need like overclocking software to do this? I set everyting to default and theyre at the same settings.
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firebird
November 30, 2010 11:29:29 AM
mike12nite
November 30, 2010 11:35:09 PM
Thanks a TON you guys this was a great help. I was gonna buy a graphics card for no reason. I went out and bought a Hyper TX3 CPU cooler along with some thermal paste and it's all better! My CPU fan wasn't keeping my CPU cool enough and now COD Block Ops and any other game I've played, work just fine! The CPU was 61*C and it is now 43*C with the new CPU cooler.
Thanks lots! Especially Wa1 and firebird!
Thanks lots! Especially Wa1 and firebird!
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mike12nite
December 8, 2010 12:14:33 AM
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