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January 30, 2011 5:27:47 AM

So I've decided to build a rig and considering this is my first time building one from scratch I had some questions and concerns. I do game, so I just would like to know if I'm headed in the right direction.

1) Ive never had a system that required RAM cooling and im not sure if this new rig will require it.

2) Is the build I have good? It fits right in my budget.

My case -- Raidmax Sagittarius

Motherboard - ASUS P8P67 Pro Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA 1155), Intel P67 Express, 2200MHz DDR3 (O.C.), Gigabit LAN, 8-Channel Audio, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX, Bluetooth
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

VGA - EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M4A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do I need this? If so is it good? XIGMATEK dragoon-n422 Aluminum alloy HDT family cooler for RAM module
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Powersource - Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC (Is this too much?) I do plan to eventually get another VGA for SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooler - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler (Do I need this? If so, is this good enough for this setup?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I already have a semi build in the case already (stock MB from an acer with an added vga and 4gb of ram) with 4 fans So the fans would be staying inside for apparent reasons lol.

It is a top loading powersource case.

Not really sure what my HD is but I will be using the existing sata HD thats in my current rig.

Any suggestions / concerns?

The total for all the parts with links ($661.94)
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January 30, 2011 6:56:19 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: The next few days

Budget Range: 800 after rebates


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Surfing, Multitasking (I play in wondowed mode a lot) Everquest is the game


Parts Not Required:No mouse, keyboard, monitor, fans needed (i may buy new fans in the future)


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I shop newegg mostly.. sometimes tiger.


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: Full tower case, sticking with intel as what I've read says they are the best for gaiming at the moment


Overclocking: Never done it nor tried it but I would like to learn as long as I dont blow up my new build


SLI or Crossfire: In the future yes


Monitor Resolution:I play on a 47" flatscreen 1080p HDTV I'm pretty sure i game in the 1900/1080 but ill have to load up the game to check. WIll post the res later


Additional Comments: I like the parts Ive picked so far and done a fair amount of research into them being compatible.

Whoa gtx 465??? Is this bad?

So I've decided to build a rig and considering this is my first time building one from scratch I had some questions and concerns. I do game, so I just would like to know if I'm headed in the right direction.

1) Ive never had a system that required RAM cooling and im not sure if this new rig will require it.

2) Is the build I have good? It fits right in my budget.

My case -- Raidmax Sagittarius
http://www.raidmax.com/product/sagittarius.html

Motherboard - ASUS P8P67 Pro Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA 1155), Intel P67 Express, 2200MHz DDR3 (O.C.), Gigabit LAN, 8-Channel Audio, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX, Bluetooth
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

VGA - EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130555

RAM - CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M4A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145261

Do I need this? If so is it good? XIGMATEK dragoon-n422 Aluminum alloy HDT family cooler for RAM module
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233033

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115072

Powersource - Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC (Is this too much?) I do plan to eventually get another VGA for SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371026

CPU cooler - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler (Do I need this? If so, is this good enough for this setup?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065

I already have a semi build in the case already (stock MB from an acer with an added vga and 4gb of ram) with 4 fans So the fans would be staying inside for apparent reasons lol.

I'm running windows 7 32 bit but will be upgrading in the near future to 64 bit


It is a top loading powersource case.

Not really sure what my HD is but I will be using the existing sata HD thats in my current rig.

Any suggestions / concerns?

The total for all the parts with links ($661.94)
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January 30, 2011 7:08:31 AM

I have read those articles indeed. THats why I picked the parts I did. As for the VG... can you let me know what is wrong with what i picked?
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January 30, 2011 7:19:58 AM

ohh i see now =P thank you sir

Might you recommend a card for me? Preferably not over 200
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January 30, 2011 7:46:15 AM

After batuchka's response I decided to go with the i5-2400 from Intel

As for the Graphics card.. The list helps but the reviews on the cards is kinda scary.

I currently have an ASUS EN9600GT 512M DDR3 but was hoping to upgrade to an SLI card.

ANy help?
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January 30, 2011 7:47:56 AM

Hmm nah negative to 9600GT SLI - hit a nice GTX 560/1gb HD 6950 for 1920 x 1200 or less
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January 30, 2011 8:10:25 AM

GIGABYTE GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Went with this one per yer recomendations.

How does the rest of my build look? What about the cooling questions I asked?
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January 30, 2011 8:42:08 AM

Forget the RAM cooler, and you want 2x4gb of RAM, not 4x2gb...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

Then combo that cpu w/mobo...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $394.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
ASUS P8P67 PRO LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Save a few more $ on that heat sink...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh... $28.46 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus
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January 30, 2011 9:29:50 AM

is there a reason why 2 x 4GB not 4 x 2GB? Sorry am deeply interested as with 8 GB for a day-to-day and gaming PC, is more than sufficient so why not utilise all 4 ram slots?

Unless there is a compatibility or speed issue here. Is there?
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January 30, 2011 9:37:14 AM

rvd89 said:
is there a reason why 2 x 4GB not 4 x 2GB? Sorry am deeply interested as with 8 GB for a day-to-day and gaming PC, is more than sufficient so why not utilise all 4 ram slots?

Unless there is a compatibility or speed issue here. Is there?

For the fact that 4 sticks of RAM side by side tends to get hot....sans the reason they are closing out on the 4x2gb.
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January 30, 2011 3:15:00 PM

rvd89 said:
is there a reason why 2 x 4GB not 4 x 2GB? Sorry am deeply interested as with 8 GB for a day-to-day and gaming PC, is more than sufficient so why not utilise all 4 ram slots?

Unless there is a compatibility or speed issue here. Is there?

Memory bus loading.

Excessive memory bus loading requires additional data transfers to achieve maximum throughput.
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January 30, 2011 3:21:46 PM

The 560 Ti is a better choice

The RAM cooler is a waste of time and money. Avoid RAM even w/ pre-packaged tall heat sinks

2 x 4GB RAM is the way to go of your thinking you'll have 16 some day. But $ for $, 4 x 2 GB is generally cheaper and, while this wasn't true with 1156, there's no other downside with 1155 since ya not raising BCLK. GSkill was a reasonable choice of many when they were cheaper than anyone else but now that the big boys are same price, I take pains to avoid. Both sets are CAS 9 tho. 4GB CAS 7 modules are relatively new and are a bit of a premium, but not so much that the extra speed should not be considered.

If it's worth $40 to ya take these over the ones with the tall heat sinks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 212 is a darn good Heat Sink for a great price .... but for just $8 more ya can have a champion..... in the last roundup, the Scythe Mugen 2 finished in the top 3 ..... the 212 dropped outta the top 25

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 30, 2011 3:52:54 PM

My next question would be... can I plug my existing HD in so I dont have to go through a reinstall? Or will I have to start over
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January 30, 2011 4:03:55 PM


Start over as there are drivers installed for the motherboard chipset.
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