On board graphics after discrete card installation
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Hi Guys,
I have been reading a lot of reviews and am aware of how different mother boards perform with their respective family cpu's. e.g.:
- X-58 + i series
- 890/880G + AMD
Do gamers even need on board graphics as I am aware that other than hybrid crossfire you cant use the on board graphics any way(e.g.: my Asus M2A-VM).
Wont a 880G board which is cheaper than an 890G make more sense? And are their any 880G boards with 2 PCI-E x16 slots?
Generally,
High end GPU + mid end CPU >> Expensive Board(on board GPU) + High End CPU.
Any views and advice??
I have been reading a lot of reviews and am aware of how different mother boards perform with their respective family cpu's. e.g.:
- X-58 + i series
- 890/880G + AMD
Do gamers even need on board graphics as I am aware that other than hybrid crossfire you cant use the on board graphics any way(e.g.: my Asus M2A-VM).
Wont a 880G board which is cheaper than an 890G make more sense? And are their any 880G boards with 2 PCI-E x16 slots?
Generally,
High end GPU + mid end CPU >> Expensive Board(on board GPU) + High End CPU.
Any views and advice??
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debatable. I choose boards with onboard gpu for one reason and one reason alone.. trouble shooting. if i'm getting an error or my gpu fries i still have the ability to use my computer while i figure out the issue or get my new graphics card... think of it as a contingancy plan in case the descreet blows you still get to use your pc till the new one gets there albeit not for gaming but email and social networking
HostileDonut said:
I am not sure what the question is, but this is what I think you are asking. If you are asking why spend more money on a mobo with ahigher-end onboard GPU if you will be buying a separate GPU later, then there is no reason.
Exactly, its going to take a long time before we can play crysis at full HD only with on board graphics.:-p. So is a really expensive mobo even needed?
And how about some suggestions on the 880G mobos??
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g00fysmiley said:
debatable. I choose boards with onboard gpu for one reason and one reason alone.. trouble shooting. if i'm getting an error or my gpu fries i still have the ability to use my computer while i figure out the issue or get my new graphics card... think of it as a contingancy plan in case the descreet blows you still get to use your pc till the new one gets there albeit not for gaming but email and social networkingAgreed, but do you need a really powerful on board graphics? Wont even under powered graphics do for trouble shooting?
Lets not forget my old Lenovo P4 with 128 mb graphics lol.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... take a look at that. It is an SLI motherboard, but I think XF works on SLI mobos. Tell me what you think of it.
Actually, I think you would like this one more, It was made for XF. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Check it out.
yes i don't think it matters how powerful your onboard graphics card is. even if it does hybrid crossfire with a decent card the difference hybrid crossfire makes is nullified. heck once they start putting a weak gpu on cpu with the new amd and intel chips then onboard graphics cards won't have a purpose
Oops. Here is one with 2 PCI-E x16 slots:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want to step up to the 890 class, this one is a good deal as well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want to step up to the 890 class, this one is a good deal as well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HostileDonut said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... take a look at that. It is an SLI motherboard, but I think XF works on SLI mobos. Tell me what you think of it.
Hey its got a single x16 slot. Butit can be split into 2 x8 slots. Bit of a waste actually.
mailpranshu said:
Hey its got a single x16 slot. Butit can be split into 2 x8 slots. Bit of a waste actually.When you split a x16 slot into x8 it only takes off a very very small percentage of performance. Sometimes it is so small even in benchmarks it does not detect it. It is a good mobo.
look at this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... HostileDonut said:
When you split a x16 slot into x8 it only takes off a very very small percentage of performance. Sometimes it is so small even in benchmarks it does not detect it. It is a good mobo.
look at this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...Agreed again. An x4 is a strict no no though.
GRRRRRR... look, when you split a x16 into two dual x8s it takes very very litle to no performance away! You will see no difference! That is probably one of the best mobos you can get for the price and WILL do what you want it to do. I do not think you get it, it is NOT 2 x4, it is two x8. The x8 will NOT hurt performance!
HostileDonut said:
GRRRRRR... look, when you split a x16 into two dual x8s it takes very very litle to no performance away! You will see no difference! That is probably one of the best mobos you can get for the price and WILL do what you want it to do. I do not think you get it, it is NOT 2 x4, it is two x8. The x8 will NOT hurt performance!
I know dude. Chill. I meant that a 2 into X4 is a strict no no. should have mentioned. You might remember thewhen the ASUS Pro had been launched a lot of guys complained that a 2 x X8 is a pain. Actual benchmarks showed little change.
But it does make you think how 2 580's on 2 x X8 will perform against 2 5850's on 2 x X16. Theoritically only half the bits are being moved every second. When you consider tera flop based perfomance that modern GPU's give it seems a no concern at the moment . But more graphically intensive games with more computations could change the scenario soon enough.
I dont think anything is enough any more for more than a year. Its all speculation again.
The 5870 for example would have been one of the top 10 super computers on the planet 15 years ago. AGP's were the norm 8 years back.So.....
HostileDonut said:
One more thing before I go back to school. I have one PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot on my board, the hd6850 I want says it needs a PCI-E 2.1 x16 slot. Will it still work?Apparently, v2.1 supports some of the management, support and troubleshooting features of PCIe v3.0 when that becomes available but it runs at v2.0 speeds. Wont be a problem at all. Just OC your card for more of a kick i suggest.
Here are three motherboards that I think would peek your interest, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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