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January 31, 2011 1:05:10 AM

Actually this is my 3rd, but I will retire my E6700 build as I want to have 2 good computers to play side by side BF3 for when that comes out ^^

All the parts are from http://www.canadacomputers.com/ because they have a store only 20min away (under Hamiltion Mountain location) some parts I wanted to use they didnt have in stock so I had to sub (like the HD) but anyway, please tell me what you think so far (as for the mouse, I own a Imperator and love it, but my 2nd mouse is the G9 and it just feels too fat for my hand so I figured I'd pick up a second Imperator).




Also if possible, please tell me what you think of my other computer if you think it would do fine for BF3 (i know the specs aren't out for BF3, but I would say its probably close to Black ops specs or a tint more for min.)


Gigabyte P55-UD3R ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E 4PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GLAN Motherboard
G.SKILL F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ PC3-10666 4GB 2X2GB
Thermaltake M9 Black Mid ATX Tower 9X5.25 1X3.5 3X3.5INT No PS Front USB Audio
EVGA 275 GTX
Intel Core i5 750 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.66GHZ 8MB
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
Samsung SH-S223B/BEBE 22X DVD+-RW SATA DVD Writer Black OEM
Corsair VX550W 550W ATX 12V 41A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive
January 31, 2011 8:55:56 AM

Not exactly sure why you chose a 2600K over a 2500K for a gaming rig...? Anyways this build includes two gtx 560's for SLI, after market h/s, and a case that has more room to work with than that Antec 900. I didn't include shipping charges, but other than the vid cards and $3 for the mobo...it's down the road from you. :) 

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_g... <--- review/benchmarks gtx 560

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6606 <--- more info on the CM HAF 922

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116/ASRoc... <--- Fairly recent review of the ASRock P67 Extreme4 with some o/c tips and great screenies.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg10/asrock-... <--- Recent yet not so in depth review of that same board.

http://www.asrock.com/MB/download.asp?Model=P67%20Extre... <---- make sure you update to the latest bios

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6... $89.99
Cooler Master HAF 922 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-922M-KKN1-GP)

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3... Our Price $119.99 Mail-in Rebate -$10.00 Sale Price$ 109.99
Corsair TX Series CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $229.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8... $29.99
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $152.99 +2.99 shipping
ASRock P67 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2... $49.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL)

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1... $79.99
Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1002FAEX) 1000GB (1TB) SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache (OEM)

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3... $24.99
ASUS DRW-24B1ST Black SATA 24X DVD-Writer 24xDVD+R/-R 24xDVD+/-R DL 8xDVD+RW/6xDVD-RW 48xCD-R OEM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $249.99 + $11.49 Shipping
GIGABYTE GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $249.99 + $11.49 Shipping
GIGABYTE GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3... $109.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)

Total: $1,387.89 CAD *not including shipping, rebates, etc..

*Here's the 8 gig version (2x4gig) of that RAM I posted

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2... $104.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 8GB (2x4GB) Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL)
January 31, 2011 9:54:51 AM

Just to point out, the specs for BF3 will more than likely be higher than Black Ops as CoD games tend to be very graphically light compared to equivalents. We can expect BF3 to make heavy, almost exclusive use of DX 11 graphics.

However, both your original and the one suggested above should be able to handle it fine.
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January 31, 2011 10:31:55 AM
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Your main problem is the graphics card you chose. Absolutely do not get it.

The NVidia GTX 4xx series is very loud and hot.

You should get the NVidia GTX 560 Ti (also mentioned above).
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-...

Other:
1. Get a $40-$60 HSF with 120mm fan (see NCIX for reviews) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47758&vpn=SC...

Make sure these larger HSF fit your case and motherboard.

2. I like the Antec 300 case. Most other cases have issues or are overprice. The Antec 300 is simple and comes with two 120mm case fans and USB; is probably on sale at NCIX. I've built LOTS of computers and love the Antec 300.

Fans:
This is a good example of proper fan usage:
1. Fan #1 (120mm fan on CPU Heatsink. Faces to REAR)
2. Fan #2 (120mm fan on the case. Faces to REAR in line with the CPU fan)
3. Fan #3 (120mm fan on the case. Front Bottom. Creates bottom low to top rear air flow as desired)
4. Fan #4 (120mm fan on PSU)
5. Fan #5 (graphics card)

*Another reason I like the Antec 300 is that the PSU is at the bottom. Normal cases have the PSU at the top rear which causes a major problem. If your PSU intake is at the top and inside the case you suck in much of the hot air into itself (especially since it's right next to the CPU). If you place the PSU so both its intake and outtake are outside the case then you can't put a fan on the case so there's no proper air flow.

The ideal solution is to have the PSU on the bottom of the case. Heat rises so your general air flow is coming from the FRONT BOTTOM which splits to the bottom PSU and travels UPWARDS and REARWARDS to the TOP REAR case fan.
January 31, 2011 11:25:34 AM

photonboy said:
Your main problem is the graphics card you chose. Absolutely do not get it.

The NVidia GTX 4xx series is very loud and hot.

You should get the NVidia GTX 560 Ti (also mentioned above).
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-...

Other:
1. Get a $40-$60 HSF with 120mm fan (see NCIX for reviews) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47758&vpn=SC...

Make sure these larger HSF fit your case and motherboard.

2. I like the Antec 300 case. Most other cases have issues or are overprice. The Antec 300 is simple and comes with two 120mm case fans and USB; is probably on sale at NCIX. I've built LOTS of computers and love the Antec 300.

Fans:
This is a good example of proper fan usage:
1. Fan #1 (120mm fan on CPU Heatsink. Faces to REAR)
2. Fan #2 (120mm fan on the case. Faces to REAR in line with the CPU fan)
3. Fan #3 (120mm fan on the case. Front Bottom. Creates bottom low to top rear air flow as desired)
4. Fan #4 (120mm fan on PSU)
5. Fan #5 (graphics card)

*Another reason I like the Antec 300 is that the PSU is at the bottom. Normal cases have the PSU at the top rear which causes a major problem. If your PSU intake is at the top and inside the case you suck in much of the hot air into itself (especially since it's right next to the CPU). If you place the PSU so both its intake and outtake are outside the case then you can't put a fan on the case so there's no proper air flow.

The ideal solution is to have the PSU on the bottom of the case. Heat rises so your general air flow is coming from the FRONT BOTTOM which splits to the bottom PSU and travels UPWARDS and REARWARDS to the TOP REAR case fan.



uh oh. Wait... in my E6700 setup case, the PSU is at the bottom, but they fan part is pointed upwards (as in like.. its shooting air at the GPU lol) should this be reversed so its shooting air directly at the bottom of the case?


Also, how about the 570 since they dont have a 560 at CC: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...

Also, whats the difference between the Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge and the Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge? I've seen others around here choosing a 2600 so I figured I'd grab that instead. Should I be choosing the 2500k instead of the 2600k?
January 31, 2011 5:22:58 PM

Trunkz_Jr said:
uh oh. Wait... in my E6700 setup case, the PSU is at the bottom, but they fan part is pointed upwards (as in like.. its shooting air at the GPU lol) should this be reversed so its shooting air directly at the bottom of the case?


Also, how about the 570 since they dont have a 560 at CC: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...

Also, whats the difference between the Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge and the Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge? I've seen others around here choosing a 2600 so I figured I'd grab that instead. Should I be choosing the 2500k instead of the 2600k?

The 2600K has hyper threading.
February 10, 2011 11:01:02 AM

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