Video Editing & Gaming Build Graphics/Display

[cr3at1on]

Ok, so this is a set up for a build I am planning for December this year.

-With these specs, will it all be compatible ?

-Does the EVGA graphics card work with the Gigabyte Mobo ?

-Will it do good for alot of video editing , photoshoping , gaming ?

-Also, I need a monitor, that can have full HD, and that can have inputs for my pc, and xbox...So HDMI , VGA , etc... What monitor do you recommend ?

-I've heard that an IPS monitor is much better for video editing etc... This true ?

Thanks Waiting for some replies !

Here is the build:

CPU: Core i7 950 Bloomfield
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/30799/INTEL-Core-i7-950-306GHz--48GTs--8MB-Socket-1366-BOX_INTELCOREI7950BOX.htm

RAM: 2Kits of: G.SKILL KIT 6GB 3X2GB DDR3 16000Mhz
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/29033/GSKILL-KIT-6GB-3X2GB-DDR3-1600MHz-CL9-NQ-PC12800_GSKILLKIT6GB1600NQ.htm )

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX460 Superclocked
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/31076/EVGA-GeForce-GTX460-Superclocked-E-Exhaust-1GB-DDR5-PCI-E_EVGAGFGTX4601GBSC.htm

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/28830/GIGABYTE-GA-X58A-UD5-USB-30SATA-III-6GB_GIGABYTEGAX58AUD5.htm

HD: SEAGATE 1TB SATA II 32MB 7200 RPM - ST31000528AS
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/25007/SEAGATE-1TB-SATA-II-32MB-7200-RPM---ST31000528AS_SEAGATEST31000528A.htm

PSU: CORSAIR ATX TX750W SLI 120mm - CMPSU-750TX
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/28516/CORSAIR-ATX-TX750W-SLI-120mm---CMPSU-750TX_CORSAIRTX750WSLI12.htm

Optical: ASUS DVDRW 24X LightScribe SATA Preto e Branco - DRW-24B1LT
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/27892/ASUS-DVDRW-24X-LightScribe-SATA-Preto-e-Branco---DRW-24B1LT_ASUSDRW24B1LTPRBRA.htm

Case ANTEC Three Hundred
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/27778/ANTEC-Three-Hundred-Preto_ANTECTHREEHUNDRED.htm

 

[wiinippongamer]

It all will be compatible and it will play a lot of games and run anything you want.


Nothing beats LED quality: http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS24B5HVFH/ZA


With a PC like that you won't miss your xbox, trust me.

 

[cr3at1on]

It all will be compatible and it will play a lot of games and run anything you want.


Nothing beats LED quality: http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS24B5HVFH/ZA


With a PC like that you won't miss your xbox, trust me.

Is this one good ?
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS22CLUSFY/ZA

5ms response time is enough for gaming and video editing ?

Or is this one better ?
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS22B5HVFH/ZA

I am aiming for the 21.5'' Looks good ! And its cheap

 

[cr3at1on]

Oh the 21.5'' doesnt have HDMI need to find another one...

 

[cr3at1on]

Nevermind those posts.
This one ?
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS22B5HVFH/ZA

Or this one ?
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS22X3HKFP/ZA

 

[nforce4max]

I would try a much better drive then that. 1TB may sound like a lot but it isn't. I do a Lot of both and 1TB is easily to waste when building large videos and keeping a library of other video files for later you will want more. Second Seagate is terrible when it comes to quality and Maxtor is to be avoided regardless of cost. There are 2TB WD blacks floating around and less spacious models are much cheaper plus they are good performers. As for the card you can use it with Cuda supported apps to encode large videos that would normally may take up to several hours on a standard cpu.

 

[cr3at1on]

I would try a much better drive then that. 1TB may sound like a lot but it isn't. I do a Lot of both and 1TB is easily to waste when building large videos and keeping a library of other video files for later you will want more. Second Seagate is terrible when it comes to quality and Maxtor is to be avoided regardless of cost. There are 2TB WD blacks floating around and less spacious models are much cheaper plus they are good performers. As for the card you can use it with Cuda supported apps to encode large videos that would normally may take up to several hours on a standard cpu.

Western Digital wont show up on the website for some reason. I know 1TB isnt enough, but I was going to upgrade later and add another one or so... So , what hard drive do you recommend besides WD ?

And when you said drive , did you mean the optical ? :S

Yeah , I'm getting Nvidia for the CUDA support

thanks for reply

 

[wiinippongamer]

I would try a much better drive then that. 1TB may sound like a lot but it isn't. I do a Lot of both and 1TB is easily to waste when building large videos and keeping a library of other video files for later you will want more. Second Seagate is terrible when it comes to quality and Maxtor is to be avoided regardless of cost. There are 2TB WD blacks floating around and less spacious models are much cheaper plus they are good performers. As for the card you can use it with Cuda supported apps to encode large videos that would normally may take up to several hours on a standard cpu.

It's the complete opposite for me regarding seagate and WD, yes they messed up with the 7200.11 but before that and now the 7200.12 they're all great reliable drives, never had a seagate or maxtor fail on me.

WD has been going downhill for some time, i've had two 500gb blues fail on me in less than 6 months.


Oh, and I'd get this one: http://www.samsung.com/us/business/monitors/LS22X3HKFP/ZA-features had HDMI input and 5.000.000:1 dynamic contrast ratio vs 1.000.000:1 that the other one has, even though most of those contrast ratio stuff is BS

 

[cr3at1on]

It's the complete opposite for me regarding seagate and WD, yes they messed up with the 7200.11 but before that and now the 7200.12 they're all great reliable drives, never had a seagate or maxtor fail on me.

WD has been going downhill for some time, i've had two 500gb blues fail on me in less than 6 months.


Oh, and I'd get this one: http://www.samsung.com/us/business/monitors/LS22X3HKFP/ZA-features had HDMI input and 5.000.000:1 dynamic contrast ratio vs 1.000.000:1 that the other one has, even though most of those contrast ratio stuff is BS

Yeah , I'm aiming for that one I have a few questions tho...
Ok , so , my rig would connect to that with no problems right ?

And another thing , my xbox... Its the old xbox 360 , the first one that came out. The Core one. It has no HDMI , I THINK , it only has VGA. Since the Monitor only has HDMI and DVI , would I be able to connect somehow the VGA to HDMI ? Like an adaptor ? The quality would be affected right ? But if it goes at least to 720p or 1080i I would be happy. Opinions ?

 

[wiinippongamer]

You can buy a cheap VGA to HDMI adapter, there shouldn't be any quality loss as long as the adapter is decent quality.

 

[cr3at1on]

You can buy a cheap VGA to HDMI adapter, there shouldn't be any quality loss as long as the adapter is decent quality.

Not that simple. But putting aside the xbox for now , the PC , that connects to the monitor. Is it HDMI to HDMI ?

 

[wiinippongamer]

The monitor has HDMI, VGA, DVI and even composite, you can use any of that.

 

[cr3at1on]

The monitor has HDMI, VGA, DVI and even composite, you can use any of that.

do cables come with computer parts ?

 

[nforce4max]

It's the complete opposite for me regarding seagate and WD, yes they messed up with the 7200.11 but before that and now the 7200.12 they're all great reliable drives, never had a seagate or maxtor fail on me.

WD has been going downhill for some time, i've had two 500gb blues fail on me in less than 6 months.


Oh, and I'd get this one: http://www.samsung.com/us/business/monitors/LS22X3HKFP/ZA-features had HDMI input and 5.000.000:1 dynamic contrast ratio vs 1.000.000:1 that the other one has, even though most of those contrast ratio stuff is BS

I got stacks of dead and failing seagate and maxtor drives. Had one maxtor go blue smoke on me once.

 

[wiinippongamer]

do cables come with computer parts ?

the monitor usually comes with a DVI cable or VGA cable, the graphics card comes with a DVI->VGA adapter

 

[cr3at1on]

I got stacks of dead and failing seagate and maxtor drives. Had one maxtor go blue smoke on me once.

Know you both got me really messed up on this topic :/

 

[cr3at1on]

the monitor usually comes with a DVI cable or VGA cable, the graphics card comes with a DVI->VGA adapter

Okay , so I wont need alot of extra cabels to buy... Or would I ? Is it hard to setup you're pc after you have all the parts ?

 

[wiinippongamer]

No it isn't, just be careful of discharging all your static before touching unprotected components like the cpu, have a good airflow in your case

 

[cr3at1on]

No it isn't, just be careful of discharging all your static before touching unprotected components like the cpu, have a good airflow in your case

Could you answer me some questions ? Thanks

1: Does it fit in the case ?

2: Can I buy another GTX460 later on and SLI ?

3: What cooler should I get ?

4: I also need wireless , how do I get it ?

5: Also , I'm going to use 5.1 Surround Speakers , does the normal sound card suport that ?

6: I wanna get another 1tb internal hard drive later. Is the one I choose good ?? Cuse ive seen other models of seagate 1tb drives , very different , money/etc... Can I put 2 of them In this build ?

 

[wiinippongamer]

1.Yes it will

2. Yes you can

3. This: http://coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6603 by far the best bang for your buck

4. I've had this for years and it's very reliable, has a pretty good reach and speed: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=131&prod_no=1063

5. Yes it does, it supports up to 8 channel or 7.1.

6. All the 7200.12 are pretty good drives, the one you chose is no exception, I have the 500gb and it's pretty quiet and the temperature is only 2 degrees higher than the ambient.

 

[cr3at1on]

1.Yes it will

2. Yes you can

3. This: http://coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6603 by far the best bang for your buck

4. I've had this for years and it's very reliable, has a pretty good reach and speed: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=131&prod_no=1063

5. Yes it does, it supports up to 8 channel or 7.1.

6. All the 7200.12 are pretty good drives, the one you chose is no exception, I have the 500gb and it's pretty quiet and the temperature is only 2 degrees higher than the ambient.

Thanks for the response
The wireless doesn't support Windows 7 , which is the one I'm planning to use...

 

[nforce4max]

1.Yes it will

2. Yes you can

3. This: http://coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6603 by far the best bang for your buck

4. I've had this for years and it's very reliable, has a pretty good reach and speed: http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=131&prod_no=1063

5. Yes it does, it supports up to 8 channel or 7.1.

6. All the 7200.12 are pretty good drives, the one you chose is no exception, I have the 500gb and it's pretty quiet and the temperature is only 2 degrees higher than the ambient.

Since most of my maxtors and seagates have only been crap.

:lol:

Oh well.

 

[cr3at1on]

Since most of my maxtors and seagates have only been crap.

I guess it really relies on luck. I've read so many reviews... WD rocks , seagate sucks. Or Seagate rocks , WD sucks. So I'll go for the cheapest one. Seagate. Anyways , thanks

 

[kg2010]

As someone who recently built a video editing rig, I would like to give you some tips.

Firstly, you can save a LOT on your motherboard by going with either the ASUS P6X58D-E or Gigabyte UD3R, you also may not need 12GB as it's way overkill right now, your RAM Timings should be in the vicinity of 7-7-7-24, yours have CL9.

I highly recommend that you look into getting a 470 instead of a 460.
( I purchased a 460 originally, and later upgraded to a 470 and couldn't be happier. )

Read this review to understand CUDA-Accelerated, And Threaded Performance:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adobe-cs5-cuda-64-bit,2770.html

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A little background for going with a 470 instead of a 460:

"For GF104, NVIDIA removed FP64 from only 2 of the 3 blocks of CUDA cores. As a result 1 block of 16 CUDA cores is FP64 capable, while the other 2 are not. This gives NVIDIA the advantage of being able to employ smaller CUDA cores for 32 of the 48 CUDA cores in each SM while not removing FP64 entirely. Because only 1 block of CUDA cores has FP64 capabilities and in turn executes FP64 instructions at 1/4 FP32 performance (handicapped from a native 1/2), GF104 will not be a FP64 monster."

In other words double precision performance took a rather severe hit with gf104, in comparison to gf100. Nvidia also switched to a superscalar execution process with gf104, which is a method of extracting instruction level parallelism (ILP) from a thread, as opposed to thread level parallelism (TLP) implemented in gf100. Again, this tends to benefit gaming efficiency/performance more so then compute performance. You can read more about these architectural tweaks in the linked article below:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/3

The only 470 I would recommend is this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127513&cm_re=470-_-14-127-513-_-Product

This card was $399 not that long ago, it's quiet, and runs very cool. I've yet to see it go over 70C with its max overclock and FULL LOAD. In fact I've seen it as low as 62 on full loads, and as low as 50C in Premiere.

If you can wait it out, the 470's may be going lower in price in the coming weeks, with the release of the 570 tomorrow, and upcoming 69xx release next week.

I have noticed a difference in Premiere as well, all depends on what you're editing.

You will see significant performance gains when dealing with larger HD files for example.

Plus, if you're going to be gaming, this card overclocks VERY WELL.

I wanted to do benchmarks of the 460 vs the 470, and when I started the process I put an ad out on Kijiji to sell my 460, and it was gone within 2 hours, I didn't expect to sell it that quickly!

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Out of curiosity, I started benchmarking some games to see what type of gains this card yields, and here's a benchmark I did last night.

You will see the settings below, the Fans were at 65% for the 2nd OC, 61% for 1st OC, and only 45% at stock.

All other reviews have the fans as high as 86%, which is VERY loud.

 

[wiinippongamer]

The gtx 470 is a riduculously power inefficient, hot running expensive card, don't get it.


I have the exact same wireless card for win7 x64 without a single problem, msi doesn't provide proper drivers on their page but Ralink( the actual maker of the chip) does, just let windows find the drivers itself, That's what I did and it works like a charm.


"I guess it really relies on luck."

Exactly.