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What is the best gpu with theses specs? (under $80-$70)

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December 5, 2010 7:47:27 PM

Hello,
What is the best gpu with theses specs? (under $80-$70)
asrock G31M-VS2 intel G31 chipset
dual core e5500 2.8Ghz
2GB ram
500W psu
will it run games such as mw2/black ops/splinter cell conviction?

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December 5, 2010 7:59:18 PM

Your PSU is only 200W? That may not be quite enough even for a HD5670, which is typically available in that price range (possibly after rebate).
On a PSU that small, something like a HD5570 or a GDDR5 version of the HD5550 is the most powerful card you should try to use.
That card can run those games, assuming the resolution is not too high, and you are willing to lower settings.
A better long term choice would be to spend $45 on a 380W Antec Earthwatts PSU, save a little money, then get at least a HD5670; you could run a HD5750 or HD5770 with that PSU.
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December 5, 2010 9:39:31 PM

Ah. What brand and model is it? The purpose of that question is to identify if it is a quality PSU, actually capable of outputting 500W, or if it's a Chokemax that will fry if loaded to 420W.
Of course, the strongest card in your price range, the HD5670, will run on a 300W-350W PSU.
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December 6, 2010 8:09:14 AM

I was able to read the sticker on the PSU, Model names says 600W-P4 and then AC input Voltage 230V~ and then the current, frequency...
what's a chokemax?
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December 6, 2010 8:41:24 AM

How many amps of current does it give on the +12V rail?
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December 6, 2010 9:44:58 AM

Tamz_msc said:
How many amps of current does it give on the +12V rail?


:sweat:  There are many amps :pt1cable:  there are 7A 4A, then i found on 12V below it says 12A :pt1cable: 
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December 6, 2010 10:08:36 AM

Does it have more than one rail( like +12V1, +12V2 etc.).
If it has a single rail it means that your PSU is 12x12 = 144W, which is pretty awkward.
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December 6, 2010 12:24:10 PM

"Chokemax" is the name I give to cheap, PSU-shaped objects likely to fry and/or damage attached components when loaded to anywhere near their claimed capacity; they choke under stress. Many of these units have "max" somewhere in their names, but it is worth noting that Enermax is not such a brand. They are high quality.
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December 6, 2010 6:14:14 PM

Tamz_msc said:
Does it have more than one rail( like +12V1, +12V2 etc.).
If it has a single rail it means that your PSU is 12x12 = 144W, which is pretty awkward.


I guess its a single rail cause I didnt see +12V1, +12V2 etc.

Onus said:
Your PSU is only 200W? That may not be quite enough even for a HD5670, which is typically available in that price range (possibly after rebate).
On a PSU that small, something like a HD5570 or a GDDR5 version of the HD5550 is the most powerful card you should try to use.
That card can run those games, assuming the resolution is not too high, and you are willing to lower settings.
A better long term choice would be to spend $45 on a 380W Antec Earthwatts PSU, save a little money, then get at least a HD5670; you could run a HD5750 or HD5770 with that PSU.


Onus said:
"Chokemax" is the name I give to cheap, PSU-shaped objects likely to fry and/or damage attached components when loaded to anywhere near their claimed capacity; they choke under stress. Many of these units have "max" somewhere in their names, but it is worth noting that Enermax is not such a brand. They are high quality.


yay, I guess I do have a "Chokemax" psu, so if I get any of these HD5670, HD5570, HD5550 GDDR5, HD5750 or HD5770 will they work?
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December 6, 2010 6:27:58 PM

if you can see a brand and a model numebr you never know... you might have a good psu and not know it


but yea most companies might overclaim their psu wattage but a 5670 should be safe on most psu's that claim 500 watts need psu info for advised on 5750 or 5770 which are better
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December 6, 2010 6:52:01 PM

Yes, up to a HD5670 should be fine. A modern 600W PSU should be able run a HD5750 or HD5770 just fine also, but if yours has only 144W available on a single +12V rail, then it probably cannot. That's REALLY low; even a 380W Antec Earthwatts (an excellent PSU, for only $45) has 336W available on its combined +12V1 and +12V2 rails.
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December 6, 2010 7:03:50 PM

I would agree with the 5670...
It would be much easier if you can upload a picture of the power supply so that we can confirm what it is.
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December 6, 2010 7:13:00 PM

Yeah, you need to sort out the info on that power supply. If 144w/12a on the +12v is correct you shouldn't be putting any video card in there but if the 500w is correct then then it simply must have more than 12 amps on the +12v.
There should be a brand and model number on the chart on the side so tell us that.
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December 7, 2010 12:04:20 AM

That's just weird... it says 12a for the +12v but lists the max as 360w which on the +12v rail should be 30a.
I'd go with the 30 amps I guess. There's just no way they can call it a 600w psu with only 12 amps on the +12v rail.
An HD5670 should work and would be a good choice for your budget. It will do pretty well at low resolutions(1280x1024 and below.) If you are using a high resolution monitor you are going to want to spend more IMO.
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December 7, 2010 12:25:23 AM

jyjjy said:
That's just weird... it says 12a for the +12v but lists the max as 360w which on the +12v rail should be 30a.
I'd go with the 30 amps I guess. There's just no way they can call it a 600w psu with only 12 amps on the +12v rail.
An HD5670 should work and would be a good choice for your budget. It will do pretty well at low resolutions(1280x1024 and below.) If you are using a high resolution monitor you are going to want to spend more IMO.


with that 1280X1024 using the HD5670, will I be able to run/play in max setting in games like mw2/4, splinter cell conviction, left 4 dead?
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December 7, 2010 12:31:20 AM

I believe so. None of those games are particularly demanding.
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December 7, 2010 12:32:43 AM

Yes,you will be at 60+FPS maxed out in all those games,maybe a little less for Splinter Cell but still really good looking graphics with smooth gameplay.I have a 5570 and i play at 1600x1050 and i can nearly max out all of those games.
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December 7, 2010 12:33:43 AM

jyjjy said:
I believe so. None of those games are particularly demanding.


how about black ops?
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December 7, 2010 12:37:32 AM

purple stank said:
Yes,you will be at 60+FPS maxed out in all those games,maybe a little less for Splinter Cell but still really good looking graphics with smooth gameplay.I have a 5570 and i play at 1600x1050 and i can nearly max out all of those games.


Which HD5570 are you using, 1gb ddr3 or the 512 ddr3?
How about black ops with HD5570?
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December 7, 2010 12:39:42 AM

What is actually the native resolution of your monitor?
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December 7, 2010 12:47:38 AM

jyjjy said:
What is actually the native resolution of your monitor?

an AOC Spectrum 7F crt monitor, resolution is at 1024x768 (recommended by default)
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December 7, 2010 12:54:09 AM

noobie_monster said:
Which HD5570 are you using, 1gb ddr3 or the 512 ddr3?
How about black ops with HD5570?


I am using the 1g ddr3 version.I'm hoping to upgrade soon.
I can play Black Ops at 1280x720 and get 50+ FPS maxed out settings, so you really won't see any problems, also the 5670 is alot newer and faster than the 5570, so you should have no problem playing those types of games.Do you play any other games than the ones you listed?
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December 7, 2010 12:56:40 AM

The HD5670 should be excellent for 1024x768. You'll have to lower AA in some games, maybe a few actual setting in the absolute most intensive games like Crysis or Metro 2033 but that's about it.
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December 7, 2010 1:06:09 AM

purple stank said:
I am using the 1g ddr3 version.I'm hoping to upgrade soon.
I can play Black Ops at 1280x720 and get 50+ FPS maxed out settings, so you really won't see any problems, also the 5670 is alot newer and faster than the 5570, so you should have no problem playing those types of games.Do you play any other games than the ones you listed?


I'd be playing mw2, 4 & black ops, splinter cell conviction, left4dead, batman: arkham asylum, nba2k11, nfs: hot pursuit, gta4...

Will the HD5570 1GB do the trick? or I should get the HD5670 1GB/512MB?
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December 7, 2010 1:20:29 AM

The HD5670 really doesn't cost much more and is approximately 30% faster so it is the better choice. BTW at your resolution the difference between 1gb and 512mb doesn't matter at all so don't pay more for a 1gb card. This would be a good choice if you are in the US;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 7, 2010 1:22:48 AM

jyjjy said:
The HD5670 should be excellent for 1024x768. You'll have to lower AA in some games, maybe a few actual setting in the absolute most intensive games like Crysis or Metro 2033 but that's about it.


i just watched the "Metro 2033" trailer pretty neat, I liked the trailer cause of the "in the house - in a heartbeat"(from 28 days later movie) :D  song used i the trailer
is it somewhat like resistance/fallout?
and for crysis what I know is that it has a lot of benchmarked vid online :??: 
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December 7, 2010 1:33:12 AM

They are both pretty good games but they are mainly notable in that they require ridiculous graphic power to max out. Crysis is probably the best looking game in existence despite being over 3 years old now while Metro 2033 is actually a bit more demanding. Crysis is the follow up to Far Cry if you played that(there is a Far Cry 2 but it was made by a different company and shares only the name really.)
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December 7, 2010 1:33:32 AM

jyjjy said:
The HD5670 really doesn't cost much more and is approximately 30% faster so it is the better choice. BTW at your resolution the difference between 1gb and 512mb doesn't matter at all so don't pay more for a 1gb card. This would be a good choice if you are in the US;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


cool, thanks man, I have read some reviews...
"The ATI Radeon HD 5670 512MB graphics card brings AMD's DirectX 11 offerings down to under $100 and is an impressive card. The Radeon HD 5670 1GB GDDR5 model cards are just slightly less expensive than the Radeon HD 5750 and don't offer as good of a price versus performance punch according to our testing. Both cards are faster than their direct competition, which would be the NVIDIA GT 220 and GT 240 graphics cards."

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1187/3/
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December 7, 2010 1:48:06 AM

Actually I just spotted this on newegg;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Didn't even realize they still sold that card but it is quite a deal to be honest. Both better and cheaper than the HD5670 although it isn't DX11 but that's not that big of a deal IMO. It uses more power than the HD5670 but if that 360w number is correct it should handle it.
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December 7, 2010 1:58:29 AM

noobie_monster said:
heres the label on the psu

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1141/model600wp4.jpg


:pt1cable: 

Dude that is one of the most funky units that I have ever seen and I have seen a lot. What morons manufacture a unit with 30a on the 3.3v rail? Second 12x12 isn't 360. :lol:  So ditch that thing who knows it might by a physical hazard to even you. Ware ever you bought it I don't want to know. So look to buying a higher quality unit from like Antec or the next best thing as they usually builds units that are worth the money.
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December 7, 2010 2:47:22 AM

I would agree with the 4830, it is faster than the 5670 and DX11 would only make your GPU do more work an hampering your FPS but it consumes more power/alot more than the 5670 so i'm not sure if that no-name PSU is able to handle it.
Black Ops and GTAIV would be the most demanding games you play right now and you should run BlackOps and GTAIV fine with either the 5670/4830.Now all you have to do is buy and play.
Goodluck.
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December 7, 2010 2:52:20 AM

purple stank said:
it consumes more power/alot more than the 5670 so i'm not sure if that no-name PSU is able to handle it.

If the 360w number is accurate it should be fine. The HD4830 maxes out at about 90w during normal gaming. If the 12 amp number is accurate well... then that PSU has no business running any gaming card.
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December 7, 2010 3:41:40 AM

That PSU label makes no sense whatsoever. Watts = Volts * Amps, so their math is really screwy. The presence of a -5V rail also indicates an ancient, obsolete design. I would not trust that PSU to run a HD4830, especially since I doubt it has a PCIE power connector. With a quality PSU only costing $45, there's no reason to keep that old PSU-shaped object installed in your PC. With a 230V input, you must not be in the US or Canada, so not able to use Newegg. Post a shop you can use so we can see what is available.
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December 7, 2010 3:47:16 AM

I did forget about a 6-pin connector,i know the 5670 doesn't need one but the 4830 will, does the psu have a 6-pin connector?
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December 7, 2010 3:53:27 AM

If you wanted to buy the 5670 their is a great deal going on for this 430Watt Crosair PSU, it's $36 and then $16 after MIR with free shipping,it doesn't have the 6-pin connectors so you would have to go with a 5670 or something simalir.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 7, 2010 4:29:11 AM

The CX430 does have a 6 pin. 6 + 2 even.
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December 7, 2010 4:34:46 AM

Unfortunately, I do not believe Newegg deals and prices will be relevant to the OP, not if his power mains supply 230V.
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December 7, 2010 4:49:25 AM

It is in english~
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December 7, 2010 11:33:41 AM

30 amp on 3.3v... wtf are you gonna do with that... looks like creative claiming of wattage tget peopl eto pay more for what i'm thinking is probably a more close to possibly 400 watt psu... i do now doubt if you could pull those numbers even and more guess 250-300 watts of usable power and that they tested it in sub zero temps for the claimed wattage.... i say send that psu to jonnyguru or somebody with the equipment i'd love to see it crash and burn... err i mean attempt to reach clamed wattage on all rails simultaniously
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December 7, 2010 1:28:09 PM

he emant 6+2 as in one 8 or one 6 :D 

at least thats how i read it
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December 7, 2010 1:55:02 PM

That Antec PSU should be sufficient. The Basiq line is their lowest, but even the mediocre 430W version would be enough for your system. The one you linked, which is stronger, should also be fine, certainly better than the unknown "dropping" you have now.
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December 7, 2010 4:18:32 PM

That Antec will easily handle any of the cards we have discussed. Are you actually in the US or not?
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December 7, 2010 11:20:07 PM

@jyjjy - no

so how do I go about knowing which PSU is appropriate? (so that I wont get another "funky"/"screwy" PSU)
the type? ATX12V v2.3? or I just walk into a store and ask for a 400W/500W PSU that supports 12V dual rail (is that the right term?)
or do I give them my rig? (mobo, gpu, processor etc..)
an then how about the connectors, are these correct

main power connector 24(20+4) Pin x1
4Pin peripheral connector x4
L-type Series-ATA x3
PCI-E connector(8Pin) x1
PCI-E connector(6Pin) x1
ATX 12V connector (4Pin) x1
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December 7, 2010 11:41:10 PM

Yes now that you have a fully capable PSU you can get better cards within the price range that require power connectors.
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December 7, 2010 11:59:09 PM

A quality modern PSU will have full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and 80+ certification. Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, and XFX are among the better brands. If possible, look for a competent technical review (not a consumer "review") from a site like www.jonnyguru.com, www.hardwaresecrets.com, or www.hardocp.com. They do proper load testing and waveform analysis.
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December 8, 2010 12:13:37 AM

Onus said:
A quality modern PSU will have full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and 80+ certification. Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, and XFX are among the better brands. If possible, look for a competent technical review (not a consumer "review") from a site like www.jonnyguru.com, www.hardwaresecrets.com, or www.hardocp.com. They do proper load testing and waveform analysis.


"quality modern PSU will have full range active PFC (no little voltage switch)"
what little voltage switch?
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