hi, im trying to build a uber-budget quad-core video editing rig (around $400)
i would also like the machine to be relatively quiet
been a while since i built a system but i do have a scythe ninja rev b that i would like to utilize.
also have a couple of 120mm nexus fans
and a centurion 5 case (i think the ninja will fit)
im thinking of basing it around the amd x4 640
just need advice on mobo and video card
which budget mobo is recomended for am3?
i will most likely not be OCing it although would like to keep options open
i dont need onboard video as i will be getting a vid card
it would be nice to have firewire 400 port with a TI chipset on the mobo
i know usb3 will not fit budget bill but at least 6 usb2 ports (on rear) would be good
mobo needs to be able to take scythe ninja rev b (assuming there is a bracket adapter that will let me use the ninja rev b on a am3 socket)
and which video card?
i will not be doing much gaming but i will need to be able to edit native 1080p avchd footage
one that is silent (no fan) and that will fit budget is hopefully possible
will a 5450 be good enough?
the other components are a no brainer (ill probably start off with 4 gig of ram and upgrade later on. the PS will be a corsair vx430 most likely unless its not enough?)
I would suggest the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T + GIGABYTE GA-880GMA-UD2H (integrated graphics; SATA 6.0GB/s + USB3 + Firewire) combo.
When you are transcoding and rendering, cores matter, so you'd get the best performance from a hexa-core.
The Gigabyte board is IMO also one of the best value boards around. I thought about getting a basic mobo and then adding USB3 and Firewire to it, but that actually turns out to be more expensive.
Here are the specs I suggest:
(Note: Not all components are available @ Microcenter, so other links point to Newegg.)
> CPU cooler: Stock - for now, as long as you don't OC
> GPU: Integrated, at-least for now. There might be some lag while editing, but it should keep you going until you can upgrade to a discrete card. If you're planning on gaming at a half-decent resolution, the 5770 would be the way to go; the 5670 would be the minimum. The 5450 is the quintessential HTPC card, but it's a wimp when it comes to gaming. Save some money and upgrade your GPU later.
That brings the total down to about $412 ($480 from Newegg), with the rest of the specs remaining the same.
Ah, I see you've upped your budget...hmm, how about $562? That'd let you grab the XFX 5770 with a double-lifetime warranty.
No? For $20 less you can get the Sapphire VaporX 5770 with a 3-year warranty...less with rebates, if you're eligible.
I would suggest you save enough cash for this card, because it'll be a worthy upgrade from a gaming perspective. You could always get the 5670, which is unspectacular by any standards or the 4850, which has a higher power consumption and no DirectX11 though...but not recommended.
NOTE: THESE GRAPHICS CARDS WILL ONLY HELP YOU IN GAMING.
For video rendering, compositing etc. they aren't much good. To be able gain from GPU-enabled acceleration in the Sony Vegas Pro's AVC plug-in based rendering, you will need an NVIDIA CUDA-enabled graphics card. The gains would especially be noticeable in Adobe's CS5 software which is optimized for it. The Sony AVC plug-in doesn't seem to work very well yet, so the increase in performance yield is likely to be modest, if any. However, in the future perhaps it'll be optimised and boost productivity. If you're willing to wait, however, Intel Sandy Bridge (once the chipset glitch is rectified) would be a good option, along with the Z68 motherboard.
The Sandy Bridge i5 costs roughly as much as the 1090T, and offers comparable performance in multi-threaded apps and much better single-thread performance.
If that doesn't matter much to you, then proceed by all means.
NOTE: If you plan to buy the GPU this time around instead of later on, and are buying the rest of the components from Newegg, take the 870 chipset-based Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 (no integrated graphics; SATA 6.0GB/s + USB3 + Firewire) which is cheaper than the GIGABYTE GA-880GMA-UD2H (integrated graphics; SATA 6GB/s + USB3 + Firewire), while offering all the features you need.
IMPORTANT: Check my calculations when you have time. I was a little sleepy when I wrote this.
Oh, and I hope you weren't planning on Crossfiring...
The cooler should work fine because the Scythe site says it's compatible with the AM2 socket. The socket AM2 and AM3's cooler mounting holes are identical, so I don't foresee any complications.
I have a feeling I'm forgetting something important...I'll get back to you, if I remember...
thank you hmdhruvarora for the time you took to help me, i appreciate it.
i checked out the links you provided and it seems that most people there are having problems getting CUDA to work and those that do see a very minimal performance increase.
there is also one guy that has the 1090t alongside a nvidia card and it seems ok.
i will most likely take your advice and invest in the 1090t and the GA-870A-UD3 (no onboard gfx)
however regarding the video card, i would like to get one that is the best value for dollar specifically for editing video and silence.
this machine will not be used much for gaming (if any; they will be old games such as xcom)
if you or anyone can help me figure out which card will let me edit 1080p footage smoothly and not sound like a vacuum cleaner, that would be great. (no fan would be great but if its a quiet one its ok)
and will the vx450 or Seasonic S12 II 520W be enough for a six core cpu?
I'd say the 5670 would be the best bang for your buck if you do plan on doing any gaming, even light. The 5570 uses GDDR3 (vs. GDDR5 for the 5670) which effectively cripples it, while the 5450 isn't much better than integrated GFX. Any of these should be sufficient for video editing. There's no need for a 1GB version because these budget cards simply can't utilize so much memory - just a marketing gimmick. On the NVIDIA front, the only option - within your budget - worth considering is the GT 440. But since it's performance is worse than the 5670 at the same price point, I suggest you buy it only if CUDA matters to you.