880gm e43 wont start

[tahoeflx]

I have an 880-GM-E43 MSI MB that won't start with known good components. Nada , nothing, not even a beep.
I'm wondering if the ddr3 ram of 1600hx is to high as I see in the manual it supports 1600hz OC? Otherwise With basic stuff installed , nothing. This is the second MB I tried.

 

[mosox]

Try with only one stick of RAM. Remove the Bios battery for a while and put it back first.
http://i.imgur.com/gGMqF.gif

 

[tahoeflx]

I tried that and cleared the cmos to no avail. I took all components installed them in an Asus MB which worked perfectly.
I wonder if because the manual states 1600hz OC It only wants to see 1300hz or less ? The odds of 2 MB in a row with the same problem are not high. (Unless it was lunchtime in China.) I also tried changing various switch positions, two different CPUs , nothing.

 

[geekapproved]

How do you know it's not a bad power supply?

 

[popatim]

neither motherboard should default to the OC memory setting 1600. If you want to test go into the bios and see where it clocked the memory and manually set it lower. Is the memory on the motherboards validated list?

 

[tahoeflx]

tried 2 both ok on another (Asus) MB.

 

[tahoeflx]

neither motherboard should default to the OC memory setting 1600. If you want to test go into the bios and see where it clocked the memory and manually set it lower. Is the memory on the motherboards validated list?

This doesn't even start up can't go to bios. The mem is HyperX Kingston 1600hz ddr3 . known to be ok. Short "pwr" = nada, zip, no beeps.

 

[tahoeflx]

The manual reads" DDR3 1600(OC) 1333/1066) I'll go to their site and see if they list my mem, thanks.

 

[geekapproved]

I don't think the ram is your problem, the computer will start your 1600mhz ram at 1066 or 1333 no problem.

if the computer is not starting at all, you didn't hook up your cables or components correctly.

 

[pukutu]

Hi,

I have the same problem. Same MB with a AMD Phenom II x4 840 processor. And I am using 4 GB of 1333 MHz DDR3 memory (Corsair).

All components (including power supply, memory, hard disk and DVD Writer) are brand new. I am using the on-board VGA controller.

What happens is that the main on/off switch works fine, the CPU fan runs, but the system does not POST. The 4 bluish LED lights on the motherboard come on and stay on - but the monitor, keyboard and mouse show nothing. No diagnostic beeps are given out.

MSI support people said to try a different power supply, with more power/juice (my current power supply is a 380W one). Don't know if that is going to change anything though.

One thing I found was that the supported CPU list for this motherboard said it support this processor, but with a Deneb core. I think the currently shipping x4 840 processors all have a Propus core. Don't know if it matters or not, but I thought I'd throw this out there.

Any help on the matter is deeply appreciated.

 

[tahoeflx]

I tried 3 different PSs up to 650 watts, all new known to be good. 2 processors 965 and 3x 450 on 2 MBs and nada.
These boards are faulty from the get go. I have a complaint in to MSI, they haven't replied.

 

[tahoeflx]

P. MSI support people said to try a different power supply, with more power/juice (my current power supply is a 380W one). Don't know if that is going to change anything though.


T. If the dumb things only work with certain PSs MSI might consider telling us which ones!!

 

[geekapproved]

You tried 3 psu's, 2 cpu's and 2 different motherboards.

It's pretty much impossible to get 2 doa motherboards. Your not hooking something up right.

Go through the standard troubleshooting in the new build section.

 

[tahoeflx]

If you can get these MBs to work you should have a PSs that's at least 500watts
with the add ons you mention. Personally if they don't get back to me by tomorrow
I'm returning this turkey and getting what I should have gotten in the first place, an Asus. All components I used on the MSI 880 worked perfectly on an Asus and on an El Cheapo MSI MB I keep as a spare.

 

[tahoeflx]

Really!! Not if the design is faulty. I don't know how many systems you've built. I've built hundreds.

 

[mosox]

Try it on a table maybe you have a short with the case.

 

[tahoeflx]

As amazing as this may seem to you I, after hundreds of builds, I actually know how to put a 24 pin plug into a 24 pin socket. likewise for 4 pins etc.
These are the first MBs that I've seen that won't start up with the MFGs recommended settings. They may be faulty designs or
MFG. In any event it's no longer worth my time trying to solve their problems. If they do respond with a plausible solution I'll
post it.

 

[tahoeflx]

They're not in a case. they're on a bench.

 

[tahoeflx]

Well, not exactly a "Youngster" (75) but I did get carded at the KFC 2 years ago for the senior discount (true).
Over 50 years in electronics and movie biz.

 

[geekapproved]

You've built hundreds of computers and your asking us if DDR3-1600 will work on a 880G AM3 motherboard? LOOOOL

Faulty design? It's got 87 reviews on Newegg with a 4 star rating.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130293&cm_re=880-GM-E43-_-13-130-293-_-Product

There goes that theory.

My guess is faulty builder.

 

[tahoeflx]

That's like saying because there are thousands of Priuses out there with gas pedals that don't stick you couldn't
possibly have dozens that do. LOOOL And Consumer Reports gave it 5 stars. Sounds like faulty thinker. Dude.

 

[tahoeflx]

P.S.
In your profile pic there is something that looks remarkably like a large fish. Did you notice that?
Just got a reply from MSI. All they say is clear the CMOS remove from case or return to seller.
The CMOS was cleared several times and a new battery installed. The board is on pro work bench with 0 contact to
it, Maybe I should try assembling this in a fishing boat.

 

[tahoeflx]

I mentioned the mem type to MSI. They didn't say it isn't OK. What is odd is that on a site called "FixYa" they show the
spec for this board's memory as "DDR 3 800 mhz" ????? What's that about. The only reason I went to the mem as a posible
explanation (other than both MB being bad ) is that after you've exhausted all likely reasons for it not working,
consider the unlikely.
After going to their support site contact page and clicking on the "USA" radio button, nothing happens!!! Hmmmm.
Are you seeing a pattern here?

 

[tahoeflx]

Just dawned on me. A few years ago I had an Asus that wouldn't start. Contacted them, and I did get a live carbon based life form, and they said the boards bios didn't ,as yet, support the 965 and that I would have to flash the bios. I don't know when these boards first went into production, but this could be an explanation.

 

[geekapproved]

The cpu support list shows all X4's up to 975BE and X6 up to 1090T supported.

That board says it requires 1.5v ram. Is that what your using?