The Hawk, especially the Talon Attack, is a very good card. A very similar card, but much quieter would be the Gigabyte Superoverclock (SOC). Guru3d has the SOC as not onlly the quiestest, but also the fastest GTX460 they have tested out of 18 models. For noise, it comes in at 37dB, while the Hawk is at 43dB. http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-460-...
Would you say that both the Hawk/Talon and Gigabyte are better than the cyclone? And is the Gigabyte as reliable as the MSI, it seems like there are problems for people where it doesn't boot up?
The Cyclone is more of the basic model for MSI, but still a good card. It also rates at 43dB for noise. Most forum posts I have seen put MSI, Gigabyte, EVGA, and Asus as some of the better manufacturers in terms of quality/reliability. If you looked at the last page of that SOC review I linked, they mention that the SOC appears to have copied the design of the MSI Hawk, so both are very similar in construction. The big difference is in the heatsink.
All the prices for the graphics cards are higher now than they were before, do you think I should wait till Christmas or just go with it? I'm going to get the Hawk because it would be the cheapest after the rebate. What is your experience with MSI rebates?