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February 9, 2011 2:15:11 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: 6 Weeks
Budget Range: Under $1k
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Mostly Next Gen MMOs
Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire:No
Monitor Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Additional Comments: She doesn't like side view windows, LEDs or anything like that, just wants a PC that will play games.

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I have a prelim rig picked out on newegg, have not build a machine in a couple years so would like some input from folks that have more recent experience.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Not loyal to AMD or Intel, this just seemed like a better value

GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Not as familiar with AMD chipsets

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M4A1333C9
Overkill, but cheap

EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Again, not loyal to Nvidia, just seemed like a good buy

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Quick Enough?

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Unimportant


Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Should be enough space

Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Sufficient?

Comments, alterations or completely different builds welcome. Looking to put together a good gaming rig that will be viable for a few years with minimal upgrades and do it without spending an arm and a leg.

Thanks!

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February 9, 2011 2:33:45 AM

I'd get a better GPU. If you can spend around $250 and get a GTX 560ti or an HD 6950, it would be worth it. If not at least get a 6870 or a regular 460 GTX. That 460 SE isn't that great.

6950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTX 560
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...'

GTX 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


No need to spend the extra $ for the 965. Just buy the 955 and overclock it over 965 levels. It's extremely easy with the unlocked multiplier. Here is a good 955 and MOBO combo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

You can get the 1TB version of that drive for just $30 more.

Antec Three Hundred Illusion over the regular Three Hundred? I know you said LEDs are a no but the extra fans are useful for the extra $10.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 9, 2011 2:43:44 AM

Thanks for the input chaos, you are probably right on both counts (I had actually thought i posted the 955)

Anyone have any thoughts on jumping on SB before the kinks get worked out since I won't be using the 3gb sata?
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February 9, 2011 2:46:32 AM

I went ahead with a SB build despite the problem. It's getting tough to find the boards though. Since Amazon pulled them Ebay is about the only choice left unless you can find a local shop selling them.

If you won't be using the ports I'd go for it. Just my opinion.
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February 9, 2011 2:54:23 AM

Yeah, that was the one problem that i have been reading, but for the performance bump it would be nice.

And getting specs and comparing them is getting more difficult since i am lazy and use newegg for all that.

What MB did you go with?
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February 9, 2011 3:06:06 AM

I bought a Biostar TP67B+. It's one of the few that Amazon still had in stock. It's a solid board, nothing special.

beachaudio.com has a few MSI and ASUS boards left. Not many though.
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February 9, 2011 3:20:13 AM

Hi, about your choices.

Drop down to the AMD 955 - It won't make a smidgen of difference and it'll save you $20. If it was $5~10 then it would be fine, but $15 for such a small gain is quite bad value, especially since they overclock to similiar levels as you have indicated you'd like to overclock. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is a better board and amiable to overclocking better.. for only $10. Also it is a 890GX which is slightly better than the 880's.

The corsair 8gigs of ram is mega overkill and whilst corsair is great, their memory perhaps is a shade below gskills.

These are some good/cheap kits of 4 gigs of 1600MHZ ram - Higher than the 1333MHZ you selected (1600MHZ is now similiar price to 1333MHZ kits and also better and is preferred if overclocking). Also, buying 2 of these cheaper kits for under $70.... just saves..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Gskill ram - top brand - $48 CAS 9 1.5Volts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $35 AR, really low voltage ram 1,35 volts, CAS 9 good brand(lower = better) (OCZ)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $35 CAS 8 ram (OCZ)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $30 AR, CAS 8, 1.65 volts good brand (OCZ)

I love the GTX 460's. Except for the SE version - It is a recent version that is BAD!
I cannot believe you'd pay $140 or w/e for it! :D 

The best video card i can recommend is the GTX 460 768mb version.

Basically GTX 460 1GB SE is way worse than the GTX 460 768mb version, with the 768mb version around 3-5 % worse across all resolutions than the GTX 460 normal 1 GB version. However, for a 1050P monitor such as yours, that difference is less as the lesser video ram is not going to really hurt the performance by more than 2% there.

In any case, the GTX 460 768mb version is only $120-130 ($130 at the moment, but still this overclocked by 75MHZ baby for only $130 AR is GREAT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) however the 1 gig version, which is merely 2~% better for you is..... around $175+. $50 for 2-3% extra performance. Up to you but I always recommend the 768mb version with that performance/price difference. However, with new graphics cards coming out.. you gotta consider them, however to MMO's a GTX 460 is like 10kgs of cheese for a mouse.

For the Harddrive, get a 1TB Samsung spinpoint. $65. or the $43 320GB one. Up to you. Either way its a saving over your 500GB for $59.99 and they are both much faster than the WD black cav.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yeah, the bulk OEM 24x thingy mcbobby is kinda unimportant to my knowledge.
antec 300 is fine if you dont care about or like its looks.


Power supply that Basiq power supply is not only old but questions on its quality from a while back. Antecs power supplies since have been top notch however. Try the TP-550 which has great quality for 70 or the TP-750 for 90 allowing SLI in future... Or try the CX 500 for $50, or the CX 430 for 25.. although not sur eabout the 430.. people have issues with it, but the 500 is fine.

In either case, only buy antec or corsair - Seasonic is the best but way too expensive.

All up: Product Description Savings Total Price


ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$18.99


Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811129066
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
$69.99


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152185
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$5.00 Instant
$69.99
$64.99


MSI 890GXM-G65 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813130269
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$129.99
$119.99


CORSAIR Builder Series CMPSU-500CX 500W ATX12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139018
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$69.99
$59.99


OCZ Special Ops Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3SOE1600LV4GK
Item #: N82E16820227558
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$39.99


AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103808
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$139.99


MSI N460GTX Cyclone 768D5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
Item #: N82E16814127512
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
MSI 890GXM-G65 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813130269
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$20.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$299.98
$259.98
Subtotal: $773.91
After Rebates 703.91.

I got the msiNGTX 460 768mb/+ that mobo combo (Graphics is overclocked only 50MHz.. but you save $20 and you can OC that yourself so...). If you are hell bent on spending all your money, consider getting a GTX 570 with that motherboard combo instead of the 460/mobo combo - The 955 has a lot of combo deals and the GTX 570 is a good upgrade and a recent card if you want to use up the rest of the money, but honestly, if MMO's are going to be played.. the 460 as i said is already major overkill. Otherwise, enjoy the other $300 with your family on other things :) .

Lastly, if you are waiting 6 weeks get a sandy bridge mobo/cpu as it is TRULY WORTH IT especially as it won't inflate the cost by over $150 and it TRULY is worth the extra money if you aren't buying for a further 1.5 months and it'll still be $850 all up, perhaps a shade lesser. Then you could still consider a GTX 560i upgrade (Extra $90~) or perhaps an SSD - another version is coming out, i dont understand the hype about SSD"s, but i guess if you really want to save that extra second on everthing you click well go for it if you can in your eyes justify it.
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February 9, 2011 3:20:41 AM

Thanks all, been very helpful
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February 9, 2011 3:23:23 AM

Best answer selected by CAK2002.
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