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What's a good GPU for gaming at a good price point?

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December 11, 2010 7:11:53 PM

My knowledge on what the current cards that are good for gaming are outdated. I just need a few suggestions on nvidia or ati cards that are geared towards gaming at a good price point. I heard the GTX 430 and 450 aren't good for gaming?

Also, would a Core i7 be necessary or could I just settle for a Core i5?
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December 11, 2010 7:20:45 PM

We need more info. What games and what other things would the computer be used for. What resolution will the monitor be. The GTS430 and 450 are weaker cards that is true. Also what do you consider a "good price point'? The GTX460 1GB is about as good as you can do for your dollar right now.
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December 11, 2010 7:22:53 PM

It all depends. If you're a gamer I'd end up going for an AMD-based system, as that will give you a much bigger budget for the graphics card.
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December 11, 2010 7:40:13 PM

An i5 or Phenom II x4 are the best processors for the money these days. If your budget can fit an i5 and a decent cooler you should be able to get it up in the 3.5-4.0ghz range and it will tear through almost anything.
As for the card we need to know your native resolution and some kind of budget before making any real suggestions.
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December 13, 2010 12:40:22 PM

Sorry for the late response.

I just need something that can play Starcraft II level graphics on the highest settings without a problem. I was wondering if I would still be able to get something like that with future-proof/easy upgrading capabilities for the next couple years for under $800.

By future-proof/easy upgrading, I mean a good CPU that I can keep for the next 2-3 years and would still perform fine for anything that comes out in that timespan, while at the same time being able to replace/upgrade the graphics card later on without having to buy a whole new motherboard/CPU.

It's really WoW that I want to be able to play on with full graphics without lagging in highly populated areas such as the main cities. But I also want to be able to have the comforting thought in my mind that if I ever wanted to, I could still run some of the top-end games out there like Cryostasis on medium level settings. Chances are I won't, but I like to know I can just in case. So basically what I'm looking for is a GPU/CPU combination that can run WoW on the highest settings without lagging in highly populated areas while still knowing I have a little extra power above that.

I guess my question really belongs in a different section then, since this isn't just about the GPU anymore.
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December 13, 2010 12:46:49 PM

wait for gtx 560,i am sure nvidia is cooking something big.
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December 13, 2010 12:56:57 PM

what resolution do you plan to play at, and are you trying for a multiple monitor setup? my asus gts 450 top is playing starcraft just fine on a 1080p tv at ultra and plays wow grea tin ultrara as well on a athlon II x 4 (3.1 Ghz) all at factory speeds.

if you want better performance fo rother games it might not eb enough for you thouhg. i looked at it as price to performance and decided it'd be worth it as i mostly play wow and can lower settings if somethign really graphicly intensive tickles my fancy (hasn't yet though most graphic intense game i liek to play is mass effect 2 :D  )
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December 13, 2010 1:10:43 PM

Highest settings for WoW and highest setting for Starcraft II would be a good minimum, at least at 1920x1080. And no, just single monitor.
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December 13, 2010 1:40:28 PM

Also let me just add, I read up that the lag in WoW due to high population in one area (like the cities, etc.) is focused on processing power, GPU not so much. I was thinking of something like a GTX 460 (I hear that's the one that's good for gaming without the jump in price like the GTX 480) and a Core i7. Don't know which i7 yet though.

Give me your thoughts/advice/data.
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December 13, 2010 1:55:52 PM

I would rather go for a 450 and a quad i5 for a cheaper experiance that'll keep you gaming for a good 2-3 years before needing to cut back settings.
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December 13, 2010 1:57:08 PM

460 would be more than sufficient for WoW and starcraft at 1920x1080 as for processor even the top dollar processors cna hang in high pop areaas its jsut alot of data to process

tom's did a wfull write up on wow recently (12/06/2010) which should be useful for ya

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/world-of-warcraft-c...

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December 13, 2010 7:40:43 PM

Yeah, for 1080p the GTX 460 would be a good choice and you are right about the CPU being more important for the specific games you mention so if you have the budget for an i5/GTX 460 system that would be a good choice.
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December 13, 2010 7:55:28 PM

^i agree,the i5 and the 460gtx is a great combo and will be for a long time to come.I still consider the i5 as being new and your not playing seriously demanding games liek Crysis so the 460 should last you for a while,and when the time comes for an upgrade you can just sli and you will be right up to speed again.
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December 17, 2010 2:09:09 PM

So you guys think I should go for the i5 instead of the i7 920/950 to save some cash? Aiight. Any advice on which i5 would be the best and I'll research it further.

Thanks a lot btw, this thread really helps.

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Forgot to say, I was thinking of the AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black since it has 6MB Cache. From looking at that performance review on WoW, it seems higher cache drastically increases it, while clock frequency doesn't. Also, it reaches a plateau at two cores for Intel chips, and 3 cores on AMD chips. From 4 MB cache to 8 MB cache, the FPS flew up by like 15-20 FPS even with a significantly lower frequency (I think it was 2.9 GHz 8MB vs 3.7 GHz 4 MB if I remember correctly)

Although I see that the Core i5 760 has 8MB cache.

So, i5 or Phenom X4 955 Black?
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December 17, 2010 2:19:44 PM

Yeah for CPUs AMD is very price friendly, any Black Edition Phenom in the 9xx series is really nice and has a ton of headroom for OCing

Not an Intel guy but I imagine that if it costs more it should be better...
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December 17, 2010 2:42:46 PM

I've seen so many people being able to successfull O.C. the i5 to 4ghz without breaking a sweat.The phenom x4's arent so great in comparance,they can get to 4ghz but it takes better equipment to get there.
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December 17, 2010 3:06:36 PM

Purple Stank, would you say I can OC the i5 on stock cooling and 600 watt PSU with a GTX 460 running with it?
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December 17, 2010 3:16:06 PM

No, i just read some reviews and it doesn't seem very possible,you could get a cheap cooler for around $30. Hyper212+.
I mean you would kinda have to get a after market cooler for any type of O.C. just to be safe,but i hear of people O.C. the i5 very easily.
You should go research it yourself,might be surprised with the results.
What type of case do you have?Is the PSU mounted on the top or the bottom?
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December 17, 2010 3:30:38 PM

If it is a quality 600w PSU that should be fine. On stock cooling I wouldn't try to go over 3.5ghz probably. For reference here is a comparison of the Phenom II x4 955 vs the i5-750;
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=109
As you can see the i5 wins pretty much every benchmark but that doesn't tell the full story. The 955 is clocked at 3.2ghz while the i5 is at 2.66ghz. Give them an equal clock speed and the i5 will crush the 955.
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December 17, 2010 3:31:52 PM

purple stank said:
I mean you would kinda have to get a after market cooler for any type of O.C. just to be safe,but i hear of people O.C. the i5 very easily.

This isn't the case at all. Sure an aftermarket cooler is optimal but even the stock cooler will allow for a healthy overclock, just nothing extreme.
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December 17, 2010 3:50:21 PM

Dunno which chasis yet but I'm sure that won't be a problem.

Thanks purple stank and jyjjy for your recent posts. I think I'll be going with the i5 760 after all. The 760 has the 8MB cache I want. And I will most likely try to OC it to 3.2 or 3.5 Ghz depending on which one's safe for stock cooling.
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December 17, 2010 3:56:11 PM

Would he be able to O.C. to 4ghz with the stock?
I only mention the case issue because i'm running into the same problem where i bought an after market cooler and it is to big for my mid tower case,only because the PSU is mounted on the top.
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December 17, 2010 5:30:23 PM

purple stank said:
Would he be able to O.C. to 4ghz with the stock?
Nah, like I said I wouldn't go past 3.5ghz on the stock cooler probably. That is approximate of course, case air flow will play a role. Like with any OC just look up what temps are alright for the processor and put it up until things are getting as high as you want to go.
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December 17, 2010 5:31:26 PM

most bang for buck GPU is GTX 460 or radeon 6850, make your choice ;) 
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December 25, 2010 6:08:45 PM

Off topic question but does anyone here know of any motherboards that can allow an old socket AM2+ or Core2Duo CPU slot that has a PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slot?

And the term "Gen2" refers to 2.0 in PCI-Express slots right?
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December 26, 2010 8:36:27 AM

Why Not Core 2 Quad,it has close performance to i5/i7s,just get q8200 overclock it,its tooo cheap now,well when it comes to graphics cards ,you just need to know about two things first is budget and then 2nd is resolution,for 1024 x 768 a hd 5570 ddr5 is good,for 1280 x 1024 9800gt is better choice,for all the uppers a gtx 400 series or gtx 200 series are perfect choices!!!
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December 26, 2010 11:37:22 AM

mrjericho1991 said:
Why Not Core 2 Quad,it has close performance to i5/i7s
Not really. Here is a comparison of a Core 2 Quad and an i5 at the same clock speed;
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/89?vs=109
The difference is pretty huge.
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for 1024 x 768 a hd 5570 ddr5 is good,for 1280 x 1024 9800gt is better choice
I think you reversed the cards here. The HD5770 is on par with the GTX 260 from Nvidia. It will beat a 9800GT by a lot at any resolution as long as there isn't a severe CPU bottleneck.
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December 27, 2010 3:05:29 PM

mrjericho1991 said:
Why Not Core 2 Quad,it has close performance to i5/i7s,just get q8200 overclock it,its tooo cheap now,well when it comes to graphics cards ,you just need to know about two things first is budget and then 2nd is resolution,for 1024 x 768 a hd 5570 ddr5 is good,for 1280 x 1024 9800gt is better choice,for all the uppers a gtx 400 series or gtx 200 series are perfect choices!!!


I don't know who told you that information, but the Core2 series can't come close to the performance of the Core i5/i7's. It's almost like common knowledge now, so I have no idea where you're coming up with that.....
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December 28, 2010 7:44:20 PM

jyjjy said:
Not really. Here is a comparison of a Core 2 Quad and an i5 at the same clock speed;
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/89?vs=109
The difference is pretty huge.
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for 1024 x 768 a hd 5570 ddr5 is good,for 1280 x 1024 9800gt is better choice
I think you reversed the cards here. The HD5770 is on par with the GTX 260 from Nvidia. It will beat a 9800GT by a lot at any resolution as long as there isn't a severe CPU bottleneck.
I think you reversed the cards here. The HD 5570 is not on par with the GTX 260 from Nvidia. It won't beat a 9800GT at any resolution even if there is a severe CPU bottleneck.
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December 28, 2010 9:11:10 PM

Zerodamage said:
Off topic question but does anyone here know of any motherboards that can allow an old socket AM2+ or Core2Duo CPU slot that has a PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slot?

And the term "Gen2" refers to 2.0 in PCI-Express slots right?


To answer your question...yes most of the older mobos that supported AM2+ and Core2Duo's would have PCI-express 2.0 slots.Although graphics card are compatabile with either 1.0 or 2.0 or even 2.1.Although i have heard of some problems with graphics cards that are 2.1 running on a 1.0 mobo.Other than that just stick with a 2.0 card and oyu should have no problems with any mobo.
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January 4, 2011 1:10:28 PM

purple stank said:
To answer your question...yes most of the older mobos that supported AM2+ and Core2Duo's would have PCI-express 2.0 slots.Although graphics card are compatabile with either 1.0 or 2.0 or even 2.1.Although i have heard of some problems with graphics cards that are 2.1 running on a 1.0 mobo.Other than that just stick with a 2.0 card and oyu should have no problems with any mobo.


Thanks for the answer. I'm actually planning on getting this motherboard, it's got the socket that'll allow me to put my friend's unused AMD chip but has a PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slot which is required to run the nVidia GeForce GTX 460. I can get this motherboard for like $39-50 from tigerdirect and then all I'll have left to pay is the GTX 460 and a 600 watt PSU.
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January 4, 2011 1:18:03 PM

To answer your original question, the HD 6870 is the best choice price/performance wise.

As for a PSU, get a 550W from Corsair, Antec, XFX or CM Silent Pro series.
As fot the CPU, wait until the Core i5-2500K is avalable, then grab one along with a new P67 mobo.

If you don't have the money for the i5-2500K right now, get the PII X4 955.
And don't buy a LGA775 CPU - that socket is dead for a long time.
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