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May 12, 2011 2:52:40 AM

I am looking to purchase an AM3 CPU, my main needs will be for Music recording and video editing. I am not rich, so 200 is out of the question. Can anyone tell me which one to get and why?

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May 12, 2011 8:39:22 AM

It depends on your budget also are you buying it as an upgrade for an existing system or a new build?
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May 12, 2011 9:05:38 AM

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition @ 190$ :) 
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May 12, 2011 9:14:00 AM

First off, like others stated.
What is your budget?
Is the cpu upgrading your current rig or your upgrading other parts as well?
Curent system specs?
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May 12, 2011 10:11:35 AM

If you are sure about AMD, then 1055t is the correct processor for your budget, 6 core works great and Overclocks simply to 1090t speeds at default voltage, do not pay more for the 1090t

have you considered a second gen i7 skt 1155 setup though, are you planning on going with a dedicated GPU on this build?
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May 12, 2011 1:06:01 PM

Asus M5A78L-M LX AM3+ 760G @ $72 or the Gigabyte GA-880GMA-USB3 AM3+ 880G @ $95 for all the bells and whistles (and up to 16GB of RAMs)

Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1333 @ $82

If you are the adventurous over-clocking type you should not have problems with running the AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz ($160) at 14x250MHz.

The X6 1075T Thuban 3.0GHz is only $5 more after a $10 gift card. No reason to think it would not run 14.5- or 15x250MHz with decent $25-$30 cooling.
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May 12, 2011 1:19:03 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
US$200 is it?


yes, sorry about that $200.00 US
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May 12, 2011 1:21:38 PM

and that is $200 for only the cpu, or also the other parts ?
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May 12, 2011 1:25:07 PM

simon12 said:
It depends on your budget also are you buying it as an upgrade for an existing system or a new build?


My budget is $200.00 US, I started an upgrade but it pretty much turned into a new build. I bought an ASUS M4A79XTD EVO Mobo and a 4g stick not realizing my old CPU wouldn't fit, but upon closer inspection of the date stamped on the processor, I needed to upgrade anyway. As of right now I still need a processor and a DVD drive
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May 12, 2011 1:25:31 PM

kikireeki said:
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition @ 190$ :) 


why?
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May 12, 2011 1:30:08 PM

SaintKr0 said:
why?

please dont upgrade.The phenomII X4 is a very capable cpu
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May 12, 2011 1:31:20 PM

SaintKr0 said:
why?

You didnt give us your current pc specs
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May 12, 2011 1:33:49 PM

SaintKr0 said:
My budget is $200.00 US, I started an upgrade but it pretty much turned into a new build. I bought an ASUS M4A79XTD EVO Mobo and a 4g stick not realizing my old CPU wouldn't fit, but upon closer inspection of the date stamped on the processor, I needed to upgrade anyway. As of right now I still need a processor and a DVD drive


Excellent mainboard :) 

Ok so you got max $200 to spend, and you need a cpu and dvd-rom drive.

Here is what i am comming up with:

Amd Phenom II X4 955 Black edition $124,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motivation: Excellent midrange cpu with fair overclock capability's, with just a multiplier setting delivering more performance even with stock cooling.

Plextor 24x DVD Burner $33,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motivation: Plextor imo is still one of the best drive brands around, they are hard to break down.

$124,99 + $33,99 = $158,98 well within budget
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May 12, 2011 1:34:46 PM

soest009 said:
First off, like others stated.
What is your budget?
Is the cpu upgrading your current rig or your upgrading other parts as well?
Curent system specs?


budget - 200.00 US
Just bought mobo - ASUS M4A79XTD EVO, still need processor (because old one didnt fit), DVD drive (because old one doesn't have a SATA port, sound card and graphics card, but processor and DVD burner need to be first

so far the system specs are just that ASUS mobo, DDR3 4g stick, 450W PSU, unknown HD (if it really matters Ill pull it and look, honestly ill probably wind up replacing this anyway, just a feeling).
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May 12, 2011 1:39:45 PM

Anonymous said:
If you are sure about AMD, then 1055t is the correct processor for your budget, 6 core works great and Overclocks simply to 1090t speeds at default voltage, do not pay more for the 1090t

have you considered a second gen i7 skt 1155 setup though, are you planning on going with a dedicated GPU on this build?


The mobo I have (ASUS M4A79XTD EVO) def for AMD. Im not too familiar with the speed terms, what is 1055t and 1090t?
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May 12, 2011 1:43:45 PM

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First of, Why are u so inclined on getting a AM3?
Secondly, 200 buck for CPU only?
With Bulldozer coming in just a few weeks, seriously? still considering AM3 ?


AM3 because of the mobo I've already purchased (ASUS M4A79XTD EVO)

I figured I could get away with the 200 hundred and under because of two things, one I've looked at some of the deals I can get online already and two because the main thing I need this build for is going to be audio recording, maybe a little video editing, but I have other machines for gaming, so I was going to not do that with this one. The responses that I've heard is that really anything will do, so I narrowed it down as best as I could so I wasnt jumping on here just asking the broadest question of them all.
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May 12, 2011 1:44:29 PM

Looks like somebody that want waste the money.

1- A new AM3 build now is a bad, very bad idea.
2- For a little more you can get a SB CPU that is by far, much better that ANY AM3 CPU
3- You bough the worst AM3 mobo in the market
4- 450W? If you want use a good GPU, you need something much better 550W at least.

Just my two cents.
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May 12, 2011 1:44:32 PM

btw, thanks everyone for jumping on this so quickly! :hello: 
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May 12, 2011 1:44:40 PM

1055T = 2,8Ghz 6 cores
1090T = 3,2Ghz 6 cores

These are processor type's of amd, for example AMD Phenom II X6 1090T
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May 12, 2011 1:46:35 PM

saint19 said:
Looks like somebody that want waste the money.

1- A new AM3 build now is a bad, very bad idea.
2- For a little more you can get a SB CPU that is by far, much better that ANY AM3 CPU
3- You bough the worst AM3 mobo in the market
4- 450W? If you want use a good GPU, you need something much better 550W at least.

Just my two cents.


the worst one really? so should I just lob a grenade on it and start all over, I mean it is very early in the build right?
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May 12, 2011 1:47:53 PM

saint19 said:
Looks like somebody that want waste the money.

1- A new AM3 build now is a bad, very bad idea.
2- For a little more you can get a SB CPU that is by far, much better that ANY AM3 CPU
3- You bough the worst AM3 mobo in the market
4- 450W? If you want use a good GPU, you need something much better 550W at least.

Just my two cents.



Please explain why this is the worst board on the market..

http://www.testfreaks.com/motherboards/asus-m4a79xtd-ev...

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/m...

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May 12, 2011 1:51:38 PM

That mobo comes with 790X that is an old chipset compared with the 890 chipset line, and more if you keep in mind that you mobo is more old that you CPU, so, you can have problems with a Thuban core (Phenom X6 CPUs)

For your needs and adding $10 more to you budget, you can get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Much better that the X6 CPU.

If you can't add the $10 more, then get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Again, is better too.
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May 12, 2011 2:17:38 PM



It's a great motherboard ... but has a limited upgrade path. It's best **use ** is probably x8/x8 CrossFire with a PhII 955BE ...

BUT! ....

it should work quite well as an encoding box. It has room for a full-bandwidth controller card for SATA 6/GB/s & USB3 when you are ready (without dragging down your graphics bandwidth). It will run an x6 (quite well, in fact) but will require a little tweaking to minimize Vdroop and volt-swings.

It's the upgrade path that's killin' yah with AM3+ boards out in the wild. Because of the BD-Z rollout, if you can hold out a month or so on your x6 CPU you might save $20-$30. When you see 'price deals' rebates and discounts popping up on the Thubans you may count on a serious price reduction over the next few weeks to further clear out inventory.
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May 12, 2011 3:24:59 PM

soest009 said:
and that is $200 for only the cpu, or also the other parts ?


originally 200 for just cpu. but if we could do cpu + dvd burner that would be ideal
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May 12, 2011 3:33:12 PM

Wisecracker said:
It's a great motherboard ... but has a limited upgrade path. It's best **use ** is probably x8/x8 CrossFire with a PhII 955BE ...

BUT! ....

it should work quite well as an encoding box. It has room for a full-bandwidth controller card for SATA 6/GB/s & USB3 when you are ready (without dragging down your graphics bandwidth). It will run an x6 (quite well, in fact) but will require a little tweaking to minimize Vdroop and volt-swings.

It's the upgrade path that's killin' yah with AM3+ boards out in the wild. Because of the BD-Z rollout, if you can hold out a month or so on your x6 CPU you might save $20-$30. When you see 'price deals' rebates and discounts popping up on the Thubans you may count on a serious price reduction over the next few weeks to further clear out inventory.


Right now I just want a working Desktop, the very minimum requirement is for recording music at first, that is all this machine will be used for, eventually it may branch out to some video editing, but never into gaming, that is for my downstairs rig (the xbox 360 :na:  )

so are all these quotes for some monster machine or for something that really fits me?
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May 12, 2011 3:37:21 PM

So what are you wanting to do?
I really think you should just get the phenomII X4 series.They do a decent job..
If you could, you could send the board back.
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May 12, 2011 3:39:35 PM

SaintKr0 said:
Right now I just want a working Desktop, the very minimum requirement is for recording music at first, that is all this machine will be used for, eventually it may branch out to some video editing, but never into gaming, that is for my downstairs rig (the xbox 360 :na:  )

so are all these quotes for some monster machine or for something that really fits me?


Using your current configuration, just look at what i proposed earlier.
It gives you a pretty decent machine that can still go a few years for your needs and it meets your budget.
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May 12, 2011 3:57:30 PM

i would grab a 1055t, i have one and its nice, overclocked it t 3.6ghz at lower than stock voltage, 1.35v is stock and im using 1.33v @ 3.6 ;)  its stable as a rock, folded 24/7 for a long time.
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May 13, 2011 1:18:26 AM

Lets not make him feel any worse. He has the Mobo and needs cpu.

1st choice = 1055tx6 [as stated above]

2nd = 955x4 BE [more of a budget buy]
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May 13, 2011 12:53:26 PM

SaintKr0 said:
Right now I just want a working Desktop, the very minimum requirement is for recording music at first, that is all this machine will be used for, eventually it may branch out to some video editing, but never into gaming, that is for my downstairs rig (the xbox 360 :na:  )

so are all these quotes for some monster machine or for something that really fits me?


Recordings are not really very CPU intensive --- neither is sound editing unless you go bat-sheet crazy with a gazillion tracks and effects. Your RAMs and disk I/O are essentially the 'bottlenecks' here.

The same goes for video editing --- it's conversion and trancoding for output that can put the six cores of a Thuban to best benefit. Limiting format conversions and resolution revisions really smooths output; i.e., shoot your video at the resolution and format that you wish to output --- then the software (and CPU) only have to work on your effects, transitions, menus, etc. for output.

As far as the **time** factor, you have to be the judge. I don't sit around and wait for output -- it's done when it is done, right? The difference between 45 minutes and 60 minutes is not that big a deal for me -- I can fool around with the little woman, grab a bite to eat, work in the garden, do some other 'puter stuff, etc.

That's your call, and it's 50-50 for me. The price is essentially the same for a 6-core for faster output versus a 4-core with another 4GB kit of RAMS for faster editing (or an additional HDD for output which will speeds things up).



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May 16, 2011 12:05:10 PM

So I am torn now between the AMD Phenom II X6 1055T and the Phenom II X4 955. I am starting to lean more towards the 1055T. The 955 price was making it a contestant, but the advantages to having the 1055T are outweighing that in my head anyway. Any last "don't do its" before I press this buy button when I get home this afternoon?
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May 16, 2011 12:21:26 PM

Phenom II X6, give yourself some breathing room. Never buy what you need, buy what you need and then one step higher, because you need the room to expand. It would be a pity to go "OMG I need to buy an X6 and have to shell out more for an X6"
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May 16, 2011 12:46:44 PM

SaintKr0 said:
So I am torn now between the AMD Phenom II X6 1055T and the Phenom II X4 955. I am starting to lean more towards the 1055T. The 955 price was making it a contestant, but the advantages to having the 1055T are outweighing that in my head anyway. Any last "don't do its" before I press this buy button when I get home this afternoon?


Your best fit is the PhII 955BE at $120 --- with a little tweaking at stock volts it will be humming along at 3.6GHz or so. If your future emphasis will be on video output then the x6 may be given consideration.

I'm a little worried about your "unknown HDD" being an issue, here. For a fast boot drive the Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB is $50 but the Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB @ $65 is really where you need to be for speed (and storage).

With a DVD optical that 'busts' your budget -- all the way up to $205 :) 
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May 16, 2011 12:53:10 PM

Wisecracker makes a fair point here. Listen to him, not me haha.
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May 16, 2011 1:16:47 PM

amdfangirl said:
Wisecracker makes a fair point here. Listen to him, not me haha.



Even a blind squirrel can occasionally find a nut :D 








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May 25, 2011 3:10:43 AM

Best answer selected by SaintKr0.
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May 25, 2011 5:46:10 AM

I would wait for Bulldozer.
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May 25, 2011 2:09:22 PM

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