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First time CPU upgrade advice

Hoping you guys can point me in the right direction: looking to upgrade my PC's CPU. My experience with computers includes installing RAM and a graphics card. I've also disassembled an old Dell Optiplex and put it back together, except for the CPU, but I think I'd be able to handle it. The computer I want to upgrade is a Lenovo 3000 H series. It has a "Dual CPU E2200 @ 2.2 GHz" "FSB speed 800 MHz" and tbh, I'm not sure what that means...
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  1. Unless Lenovo included an original windows cd, be prepared to purchase a new windows coa. I use craigslist for windows upgrades. For your board, I would go with an amd regor 255 or 260 with msi or biostar micro-atx board. I found the 255 with gigabyte board used on craigslist for $60 recently. If you want quad, the 955 x4 is affordable. Unless you do alot of video work, the 6 cores won't benefit you much. For new boards, I recommend the biostar A880G+ for around $70 at newegg. Ddr3 is affordable; frys has some corsair 4 gb 1333 ddr3 for $22.98 after rebate in today's anniversary ad in stores and possibly online.
  2. Actually it did come with Windows (Vista) I'll look into the regor 255. As for the biostar micro-atx, are you suggesting I also upgrade mobo?
  3. Hey ,the only thing you can't replace in a Computer is the hard drive, and the motherboard to have to replace the OS. You can replace your CPU but if it's a laptop make sure you are getting a mobile CPU. Here are some options... (these are not mobile)

    Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache $149.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

    Intel Pentium E6700 Wolfdale 3.2GHz 2MB L2 Cache $84.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116370

    These both are great options! But I can't gurantee the Core 2 Duo will work but im pretty sure the pentium will.

    umm the "dual CPU" you are thinking, you are probaly reffering to Dual Core. meaning two Processors in one! A dual core can have the processing power two processor in one CPU. I would go with the Core 2 duo if you game, but if you just want a faster everyday CPU go with the Pentium!
  4. cpunoob77 said:
    Hoping you guys can point me in the right direction: looking to upgrade my PC's CPU. My experience with computers includes installing RAM and a graphics card. I've also disassembled an old Dell Optiplex and put it back together, except for the CPU, but I think I'd be able to handle it. The computer I want to upgrade is a Lenovo 3000 H series. It has a "Dual CPU E2200 @ 2.2 GHz" "FSB speed 800 MHz" and tbh, I'm not sure what that means...



    First, I don't think I've heard an AMD E2200. That's an Intel Core 2 Duo IIRC, but I doubt you can upgrade too a much faster CPU. Your better bet is to save up an buy an inexpensive WHOLE PC from Newegg for about $400 which will get you into DDR3 and PCIe 2 for a much better future upgrade path.

    Though for ethical reasons I can't recommend Intel, for the most part it won't make a difference.
  5. It's a desktop. And you're right, it does say Dual-Core! Also correct about the gaming, that's the main reason for the upgrade. Gonna have to research that Core 2 Duo.
  6. BaronMatrix said:
    First, I don't think I've heard an AMD E2200. That's an Intel Core 2 Duo IIRC, but I doubt you can upgrade too a much faster CPU. Your better bet is to save up an buy an inexpensive WHOLE PC from Newegg for about $400 which will get you into DDR3 and PCIe 2 for a much better future upgrade path.

    Though for ethical reasons I can't recommend Intel, for the most part it won't make a difference.



    I am planning on building my own computer but that would be for another time, this would be more of a short term improvement.
  7. Just for comparison, Frys has an hp system with dual core amd and 4 gb of ddr3 for $260 in today's ad. That's about the same as newegg's bare bones specials without windows.
  8. If the Core 2 duo would work you will see a major boost, it is like an I3/lower end I5 equivalent so it's fast. It is older but it is still good.

    You can try the core 2 duo, and if it does not work just return it.
  9. Hey just to add you might wanna try this barebone for your next build.

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=500251&Sku=B69-1327

    All you need is an OS, and a Graphics card would top this off for a good gaming pc.
  10. Thanks for the link and thanks to everybody for the info. Am new to all this but I'm already excited to learn!
  11. unless you have a bottleneck. A better Video card would benefit games a little better than a CPU would.(just something to consider) But unless you can upgrade to a Core 2 Duo I wouldn't even bother upgrading your CPU. Your best bet is to try out the Core 2 Duo. If that doesn't work return it, and save up for a PC like the one I linked. me and other people here at Toms Hardware can help you out with the entire procedure, If you decide to build your own. If you decide to get a GPU I, and others can help you out.

    ;)
  12. For a short term improvement a good core2duo would work but the only way I would do a Core2Duo is buying used from a top rated seller on Ebay
    who has a good DOA policy

    Buying a new retail Core2Duo just doesnt make sense
    Some of the good new Core2Duo cost almost as much as an AMD mobo/cpu
    combo

    in your future build

    Might be able to use case depending on form factor that Lenovo used
    Some OEMs use BTX cases which are hard to reuse

    Hard drive (if it is big enough for you) and DVD/CD would be reusable

    decent power supplies have gotten cheap with sales so replace it with a
    Corsair,Seasonic,Antec

    the ram is probably DDR2-800-might be reusable-better off upgrading
    if budget allowed

    Look up toms systems builder marothon systems to get an idea
    of good components for the money

    the one thing that makes sense is upgrading your video card
    since that can be carried to new build

    post more detailed specs and budget in graphics section
    and toms members will bore you with video card
    recommendations LOL :)

    if your computer has a standard size power supply
    than a video card and PSU combo upgrade would be good
    and used in later build

    I hope this made sense
    it is 2 am where I am at LOL
  13. processor-pro said:
    unless you have a bottleneck. A better Video card would benefit games a little better than a CPU would.(just something to consider) But unless you can upgrade to a Core 2 Duo I wouldn't even bother upgrading your CPU. Your best bet is to try out the Core 2 Duo. If that doesn't work return it, and save up for a PC like the one I linked. me and other people here at Toms Hardware can help you out with the entire procedure, If you decide to build your own. If you decide to get a GPU I, and others can help you out.

    ;)


    Currently have a Sapphire Radeon 4650 1GB, I'll try and post pic of system specs...


  14. Hope this helps! Wondering what is compatible with this.
  15. I also have a HD 4650 1gb
    It is a good card for multimedia and LIGHT gaming
    by no means is it a serious gaming card

    can you open the case and post the specs of your Power Supply?
    also does it have a 6 pin PCIE power connector?

    That will determine what kind of card you can get
    Usually OEM towers dont have high wattage supplies

    if it is possilbe to replace power supply with good brand
    like Antec or Seasonic that would be great
    since you could use higher powered card
    and use the PSU and card on future build
  16. Pentiums are good processor. They we're voted by Tom's Hardware the best performance, to value CPU. So a better GPU would be a good investment! AMD 6850's, and Nvdia 460's can play most game at max settings. But a better Powersupply will be a must if you havent already upgraded it.
  17. king smp said:
    I also have a HD 4650 1gb
    It is a good card for multimedia and LIGHT gaming
    by no means is it a serious gaming card

    can you open the case and post the specs of your Power Supply?
    also does it have a 6 pin PCIE power connector?

    That will determine what kind of card you can get
    Usually OEM towers dont have high wattage supplies

    if it is possilbe to replace power supply with good brand
    like Antec or Seasonic that would be great
    since you could use higher powered card
    and use the PSU and card on future build



    My current PSU is an Antec BP430, I'm guessing that's 430W.
  18. processor-pro said:
    Pentiums are good processor. They we're voted by Tom's Hardware the best performance, to value CPU. So a better GPU would be a good investment! AMD 6850's, and Nvdia 460's can play most game at max settings. But a better Powersupply will be a must if you havent already upgraded it.



    This is what I'm working with:

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  19. Best answer
    Ok going by intel.com PDF
    http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/317304.pdf

    the P35 supports the Core2Quad also
    in your photo the specs also list the G31 and G33
    which are higher spec chipsets

    so there is a good chance you could use a Core 2 Quad
    but prices for those can be outrageous

    if one could be found really cheap then that would be good
    but the best idea is to go with PSU/GPU combo until new build
  20. King SMP is right. You can go for the core 2 quad but a better GPU would be a better investement, than a CPU.
  21. Well you have an Antec PSU
    so should be a good PSU
    but 430w is low for higher powered cards

    with your PSU now you need to look for a card
    that doesnt need more than 400w

    if you get a higher powered (around 650w)
    then you can get any video card
  22. Best answer selected by cpunoob77.
  23. After some price comparison I've realized that my best option would be to invest in a new PSU/GPU combo. Though I would like to upgrade processors, the price doesn't match the performance difference and am better off saving that money for a new build. Thank you everybody at Tom's Hardware for steering me in the right direction!
  24. Thank you selecting as me as Best Answer
    Dont be a stranger :)

    If you need advice on PSU and GPU
    please feel free to ask
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