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AMD HD6970 slower than nVidia GTX580, confirmed by Fudzilla

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a c 235 U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 8:48:35 PM

actually just in 3Dmark so far

Slower or similar to GTX 570, tests in
We got some numbers for Radeon HD 6970 in 3Dmark Vantage and the latest 2011 version. We know that this test is not real life based, but it still provides a nice reference.

We have compared the 3Dmark data we acquired from a source with our own that we got on a similar configuration. In 3Dmark 2011 Radeon HD 6970 scores slightly lower than 8000 at entry settings while the GTX 580 scores 8700 in that same test. The runner up, GTX 570, scores slightly above 8000 while the GTX 480 is slightly below 8000.

At performance settings Radeon HD 6970 a.k.a. Cayman XT scores around 5300 while the GTX 580 scores are just tad below 6000 and the GTX 570 loses by an inch with 5250 score. GTX 480 scores almost identical to the GTX 570, its 5250 points are again slightly lower than HD 6970.

In more extreme conditions Radeon HD 6970 scores 1800 while the GTX 580 scores 1950. Radeon HD 6970 again wins against GTX 570 and GTX 480 who scored 1680.

The launch is on Wednesday December 15th 5AM Central European Time or 6PM GMT or Greenwich time. Chaps in New York or across east coast will be able to see the card launching on November 15th at 00.00 AM while those from California get a slight advantage and can see the card selling already on December 14th 09.00 PM.

Sources have also confirmed that the GTX 580 wins in most of the games. You’ll see some official scores in less than 48 hours from now.
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 8:55:15 PM

Well, it was not a big surprise....
If the Radeons are priced good they might be killer deals.
a c 130 U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 8:57:55 PM

I'm probably not the only one who's discounted all info from Fudzilla. Better to wait the now-countable hours.

But to speculate off of this; Cayman is more powerful when the game/whathaveyou requires more horsepower. Also look at the last line.. "in most of the games". So the 6970 does indeed beat the 580 sometimes.


Also, for all we know this article can be titled "HD6950 slower than GTX580". Maybe AMD's target wasn't the GTX580 for the 6970?

We'll see in prices.
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 9:59:44 PM

AMD should give me a brand new ATI 6970 in exchange for my GTX 470. Yeah, that's the moral of the story.

All jokes aside, this could be both good and bad. nVidia will still wear the king's performance crown, but ATI is going to throw up a good fight price wise I'm sure. Their latest batch of 6800 cards has been priced pretty well in my opinion.

*Emphasis on 'ATI' because AMD should never have considered rebranding.
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 10:35:48 PM

I gotta say I'm poised to strike at an ATI card with my credit card as soon as I see the price point and some bench results of the 6970. It will be either a 6870/6970 win or lose. The performance should be at least slightly better than the 6870 so as long as the price is reasonably targeted I may still get one anyway.

Being stuck with an AMD based system and only crossfire I don't have many options. My trigger finger is itching like an untreated hemmorhoid waiting for this release...
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 10:42:36 PM

Fudzilla lol.

Note that these are AMD's numbers. However, it's been said that this is the low-TDP version (190W while the card can be "turbo boosted" to 250W).

Still a lot of rumours going around. ;) 

{the 6970 is 25% faster here on average vs the 570}
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 11:12:38 PM

I'm going to get sick, every time I read 'and that could be in low power mode'. Whether its a higher fps or not. This whole powertune gimmick is a farce. Its to confuse people, and of course AMD fans sound like they have no problem with limiting their tdp, performance level. It can only be a good thing/ sarcasm.
a c 172 U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 11:46:19 PM

its all rubbish. wait for proper reviews from more than 1 reviewer.
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2010 11:52:31 PM

The powertune slider is a different take on the current mhz slider in CCC, IMHO.
Who is going to underclock their 400 dollar card ? Its going to effect full load only.
Idle modes have their own power features.
So why would you ever game/ benchmark but in full power .
a c 130 U Graphics card
December 14, 2010 12:04:42 AM
For instance, lets say I OC the card to 1000Mhz - and now I draw 280W.. But TDP is kept at 250W. Then, the card keeps hitting the 250W barrier and so my card runs from 800MHz to 1000Mhz up and down, like in that graph, to keep the card below 250W.. However, I slide the TDP power to +20% to 300W, and now my card runs constantly at 1000MHz since it is drawing 280W, less than the 300W. (all #'s are just examples fyi)
a c 235 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 3:26:41 AM

looks like fudzilla hit the nail on the head

the amd 6970 competes against the GTX 570
a b U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 9:36:29 AM

I guess that makes them a slightly more reliable source now...