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February 13, 2011 7:51:27 AM

Okay after long hours of research and whatnot I came up with this.

SPECS:
Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case
ASUS Rampage 3 Motherboard
intel i7 950 CPU
12gb Corsair DDR3 RAM (4gbx3)
GeForce GTX 560 Ti Video Card
Cooler master 750W power supply
Hitachi Deskstar 1tb HD
Windows 7 64-bit.

(Note: I chose the parts I did to make it future proof/perfectly upgradeable)

About $1,400 total.

So, pretty much plan to order all those components off of tigerdirect for that price.

What about cooling?

Let me know what you think and most importantly, am I missing anything at all?

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February 13, 2011 12:06:35 PM

Optical drive ?
Cooler Master PSU´s are not the best but not the worst, I suggest changing that out to a comparable Antec, Corsair, Seasonic or XFX unit for a single GPU setup 500watt would be fine but if you are planning dual in the future then 750watts is good.
February 13, 2011 3:43:20 PM

rolli59 said:
Optical drive ?
Cooler Master PSU´s are not the best but not the worst, I suggest changing that out to a comparable Antec, Corsair, Seasonic or XFX unit for a single GPU setup 500watt would be fine but if you are planning dual in the future then 750watts is good.


Ah yes an optical drive.

Do I need a CPU fan or some other kind of cooling system with this setup, any cooling problems?
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February 13, 2011 3:53:50 PM

Gage Ibbetson said:
Ah yes an optical drive.

Do I need a CPU fan or some other kind of cooling system with this setup, any cooling problems?

Hold on !

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Cougar-Point-Sandy-Bri... <--- Sandy Bridge mobo's will be back on the shelves starting this week. You can get better performance with a SB 1155 build and for cheaper than what that 1366 build up above will cost you.
February 13, 2011 3:57:09 PM

That is only the chipset´s it will take more time to get the boards on the market!
February 13, 2011 4:05:46 PM

Why_Me said:
Hold on !

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Cougar-Point-Sandy-Bri... <--- Sandy Bridge mobo's will be back on the shelves starting this week. You can get better performance with a SB 1155 build and for cheaper than what that 1366 build up above will cost you.


That's nice and all but it doesn't answer my question.

Do I need/am I missing some kind of cooling products with this or will it be fine?

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February 13, 2011 4:09:41 PM
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As long as you dont get an OEM CPU it will come with a heatsink and fan so you shouldnt need to buy additional cooling.
February 13, 2011 4:15:21 PM

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February 13, 2011 4:15:32 PM

hunter315 said:
As long as you dont get an OEM CPU it will come with a heatsink and fan so you shouldnt need to buy additional cooling.


Thank you!
February 13, 2011 5:32:48 PM

I think you did an excellent job for a 1st build. You didn't list your intended usages but if it's just gaming, ya might want to wait for Sandy Bridge MoBos to be reissued. Minor comments:

1. I'd step up to an XFX Black Edition 750 (100). It's only $10 more than the TX and performance wise, its easily a match for Corsair's top of the line HX750 (TX is their 2nd tier line) which is $130.

2. The HAF-X ois a great case, but having built almost the exact same box with both, I much preferred the DF-85 over the HAF-X. It's also would save ya $40 .... the DF also fits the CP-850 which is the equal of the Corsair HX series and and XFX Black Series but runs quieter.

3. Ya didn't specify ya RAM speed or timings. Given the price, and newegg's problems keeping them in stock, I'd suggest 2 sets of these DDR3-1600 CAS 6 sets

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Unless ya thinking you might move to 24 GB some day, no reason to save the additional 3 slots for expansion. Granted you *might* have to relax the timings a bit if OC'ing but CAS7 is better than CAS 9 especially if it comes at the same price.

4. No aftermarket cooler ? Not going to OC ? The R3E is a super overclocking board; if not OC'ing, I'd get something much cheaper. The R3E costs what it does because of its OC abilities, you could save $200 if you're not going to OC. Therefore if you stay with the R3E, an aftermarket cooler should be an automatic. If long been against the "self contained water cooling solutions or what I have oft called "faux water coolers", bit this one has me softening my position.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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Priced to compete with high-end air coolers, the Kühler 620 offers similar performance and a lower noise level. It's the first compact liquid cooler I've tested that can honestly be considered as competition for the likes of the Cooler Master V6 GT, Prolimatech Megahalems, and Thermalright Venomous X.


In conclusion, you have made a great selection of components, however, you do have a bit of an imbalance in that some components are very high end and some are moderate to high end. The R3E, HAF-X and 950 are what you'd find in a more expensive, say $2000+ system. The PSU, GFX and HD are what you'd expect in a moderately priced system. The lack of a aftermarket CPU cooler is generally only seen in a budget system.

In the build below, I have upgraded the PSU, upgraded the GFX, upgraded the cooling, upgraded the quality of the RAM but dropped you down to 6GB (12 would add $90 but not really needed), upgraded the HD and come in $20 below your $1400 limit. Ya can add a 2nd GFX card (and case window fan) come Xmas if ya want some more oomph in games like Metro 2033. I dropped the MoBo down to a Sabertooth, an excellent overclocking board and an ideal choice for a first build with serious intention to OC. It also comes w/ a 5 year warranty due to the "militarized" componentry. It does not have the extreme overclocking features that only the most serious overclocking peeps want to set overclocking records, but my assumption was, that's not what you intend to do with this box.

Case - $140 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $120 - Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fans - Later - Antec 120 mm Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $475 - Asus Sabertooth http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl - Intel i7-950 included w/ above combo
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $90 Mushkin 3 x 2GB CAS 6 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $350 - Asus GTX 570 OC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Same
HD - $160 - Samsung F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
OS - $0 - Win 7-64 Home Premium included w/ above

If ya want an easier time with the RAM / Cooler installation (clearances are tight and ya can't remove the 1st stick w/ large air cooler in place), consider spending the $24 for the Antec Kuhler 620

http://store.antec.com/Product/cooling-cpu_cooler/kuhle...
February 13, 2011 5:57:06 PM

Gage Ibbetson said:
That's nice and all but it doesn't answer my question.

Do I need/am I missing some kind of cooling products with this or will it be fine?


I posted that link for a reason. The Sandy Bridge builds will mop the floor with that 1366 build you have and do it for cheaper. That and unless Hitachi changed the way they build their h/d's it's a lemon. Your first post you stated you wanted to have a path to upgrade. Well their's not much upgrade with a 1366 build. Those P67 mobo's I posted a link to will also run the Ivy Bridge 22mm cpu's coming out next year. So unless you feel the need to flush $1,400 down the toilette, you might want to check out a few of these links down below.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i...

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2...

http://www.guru3d.com/news/core-i5-2500k--core-i7-2600k...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-...
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