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February 14, 2011 1:08:03 PM

Ok after tearing my hair out for days, and pestering many people on these forums I have come up with what is hopefully my final set-up. Will be ordering this tomorrow after I give it a day and scrounge around for sales. Only thing still worrying me is the SSD as there is so many conflicting reports on them. Some don't like certain chipsets, some say trim doesn't work on one brand, while others say it does. Anyway, Think I've got it as good as I'm going to get it. If anyone see's something I may have missed, or see where I could shave off some money for a better value somewhere please let me know.


Also:
Not waiting on Sandy Bridge, Will CF in the future, have a high res monitor already and will be gaming 1920+.

Thanks in advance.








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LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

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SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

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XFX HD-695A-CNFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

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XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

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G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

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Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

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AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX - CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler

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February 14, 2011 1:25:16 PM

Read through the form in the sticky, link in my sig. Reformat your post in that manner. You won't get many replies with a giant wall of text.
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February 14, 2011 1:27:32 PM

Agreed......get rid of all that extra stuff.
All we need to see is the item name, part number and preferably a link

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February 14, 2011 2:09:46 PM

Why not get rid of all the extra blank lines too?

How much are you trying to shave off the cost?
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February 14, 2011 2:14:58 PM

Purpose of build? Is this for gaming, workstation?

If workstation, what software, is it CUDA or GPU accelerated?

What's your budget? $1,300 or a little higher or lower?

Overclocking or not?

In general, cheap water sucks. Stick with big air, quieter and better performance.

Don't need a 850W psu for 1 or even 2 6950's, maybe for 3 of them. XFX BE are definitely good PSU's though.





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February 14, 2011 3:33:42 PM

banthracis said:
Purpose of build? Is this for gaming, workstation?

If workstation, what software, is it CUDA or GPU accelerated?

What's your budget? $1,300 or a little higher or lower?

Overclocking or not?

In general, cheap water sucks. Stick with big air, quieter and better performance.

Don't need a 850W psu for 1 or even 2 6950's, maybe for 3 of them. XFX BE are definitely good PSU's though.



Mainly games/ 850 is recommended by AMD for 2 + the difference is only $20 from 750w and 850w/ No budget set in stone, just trying to get something of good value. Not trying to pay a big premium for the top of the line but wanting it to last. Every review I've read on the Corsair 50 has shown to improve cooling better than any big air HS combo's while staying quiet, so I'm going to stay with that.

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February 14, 2011 3:45:50 PM

FlyingSpaghettiMonster said:
850 is recommended by AMD for 2
Not all 850W PSUs are created equal. You can find some for under $50. AMD knows that, so they cover ALL the bases by recommending something that covers the low end the pool too.
A budget 850W PSU probably equals a good quality 750W PSU and maybe even an exceptional 650W model.
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February 14, 2011 3:47:09 PM

WR2 said:
Not all 850W PSUs are created equal. You can find some for under $50. AMD knows that, so they cover ALL the bases by recommending something that covers the low end the pool too.
A budget 850W PSU probably equals a good quality 750W PSU and maybe even an exceptional 650W model.


It says 750w or preferred 850w and has a long list of preferred brands, of which xfx is included. Thanks though.
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February 14, 2011 6:15:53 PM

Cheap water is worse than big air...

This has been established about 4 times by Tom's

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h50-fort120...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h50-fort120-cogage,...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h70-liquid-...

And by Overclock3D
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsai...

and by frostytech...
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=256...

Need I go on?

Every review comparing H50/H70 to air ends up with big air on top performance wise. Noise wise cheap water will always be louder than air. Why? Air and water both use fans. Same fans, same noise. However, water needs a pump on top of fans.

This only changes once you've got massive enough a RAD that you can either passively cool the rig, or use lots of fans at low speed. AKA high end custom water.

In addition, even with a OC 4.0ghz i7 xfire 6950's at load under furmark only reaches 510W at the socket. Assuming 85% PSu efficiency, it's only using 433.5 watts.
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/4061?cPage=7&all=Fa...

YOU DO NOT NEED A 850W PSU to run MAX 433W at full CPU+GPU load.

In fact, you're hurting efficiency by having your idle and load be outside the optimal 30%-70% load on a PSU. 750W PSU the range would be 225 idle and 525 load.

Seriously, though. What's the point of being on these forums if you aren't gonna bother with the advice of the people here?
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February 14, 2011 6:37:39 PM

banthracis said:
Cheap water is worse than big air...

This has been established about 4 times by Tom's

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h50-fort120...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h50-fort120-cogage,...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h70-liquid-...

And by Overclock3D
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsai...

and by frostytech...
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=256...

Need I go on?

Every review comparing H50/H70 to air ends up with big air on top performance wise. Noise wise cheap water will always be louder than air. Why? Air and water both use fans. Same fans, same noise. However, water needs a pump on top of fans.

This only changes once you've got massive enough a RAD that you can either passively cool the rig, or use lots of fans at low speed. AKA high end custom water.

In addition, even with a OC 4.0ghz i7 xfire 6950's at load under furmark only reaches 510W at the socket. Assuming 85% PSu efficiency, it's only using 433.5 watts.
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/4061?cPage=7&all=Fa...

YOU DO NOT NEED A 850W PSU to run MAX 433W at full CPU+GPU load.

In fact, you're hurting efficiency by having your idle and load be outside the optimal 30%-70% load on a PSU. 750W PSU the range would be 225 idle and 525 load.

Seriously, though. What's the point of being on these forums if you aren't gonna bother with the advice of the people here?


If you meant seriously though, what's the point in being on these forums if I don't agree with everything you have to say, then that entire rant made perfect sense. Please refrain from "helping" me any more". Thank ye.
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February 14, 2011 6:55:50 PM

It's called results based on data from testing using the scientific method. Something more reliable than personal opinion.

It's not a rant. It's informing you of some basic facts most people here already know.

None of my answers are based on my opinion unless otherwise noted. All recommendations I give are backed by data and testing from well respected review sites.
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February 14, 2011 8:01:44 PM

Don't see that you're missing anything. Great price on the W7/ mobo combo. Future x-fire with 6950's make the 850W GPU a good choice. Make sure you set the bios to AHCI mode for the SSD before installing Win7, trim will be enabled that way.
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