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December 14, 2010 11:12:02 PM

Hey guys,
out of all these which is the most powerful ?

Radeon HD 5000
Radeon HD 4000
Radeon HD 3000
Radeon HD 2000
GeForce G/GT series
GeForce 9 series
GeForce 8 series
GeForce 7 series
GeForce 6 series
GeForce FX series
Radeon 9 series


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a c 173 U Graphics card
December 14, 2010 11:34:23 PM

There is no such thing but that doesn't mean that you can't try. A cheap 5450 or a GT220 if you are lucky as all of them are pushing $50 or more. You should try to save a little more unless you have no income or are only looking for a low end card.
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December 14, 2010 11:49:44 PM

I'm finding some 5450s and Gt220s under 50 bucks on Newegg
Are those 2 the top of the heap out of those cards on the list
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 14, 2010 11:54:36 PM

No, the HD5450 isn't a gaming card at all, I'm not sure why he mentioned it. Your best options for gaming on a low budget are the cards I linked above.
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December 15, 2010 12:13:03 AM

Thanks for replying!
Since 5 is a bigger number than 4, doesn't that mean that the 5000 series is superior to the 4000 series ? And as with the 9 to the 5000
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 12:24:33 AM

No, each series has a full range of cards from low to high. The high range card of the previous series will always beat the low range of the new series and usually match or beat the mid range as well.
Here is a handy chart that separates all the video cards you might consider into tiers based on performance;
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-rad...
The GT 220s you are looking at for $50 are DDR2. As you can see on the chart the DDR3 HD4650 I linked is 3 tiers higher and the HD4830 is another 4 tiers up. If you can at all afford that HD4830 it is a very good deal for the money. It does use a decent amount of power but not a huge amount. Enough that you should tell us the brand/model of your power supply so we can confirm for you that it will work before ordering though.
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December 15, 2010 12:28:02 AM

Not sure about the brand as I'm away from that particular computer, but the Output is 300W Max.
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a c 358 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 12:31:03 AM

ostrich2 said:
Hey guys,
out of all these which is the most powerful ?

Radeon HD 5000
Radeon HD 4000
Radeon HD 3000
Radeon HD 2000
GeForce G/GT series
GeForce 9 series
GeForce 8 series
GeForce 7 series
GeForce 6 series
GeForce FX series
Radeon 9 series



Those are card generation series. Generally speaking newer card are more powerful than older cards, but performance is all relative. The ATI HD 4650 is more powerful than the HD 5450; the nVidia 9600 GT is basically equal to the GT 240.

If you can deal with a mail-in rebate, then GeForce GT 430 is probably the best performing video card that's in your budget; $50 after a $20MIR. It is generally a small bit faster than the HD 4650 or HD 5550 (both have roughly equal performance). This is a DX11 card, but it is weak since DX11 effects are relatively demanding.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you prefer ATI then consider the HD 4650 for $37 after a $15 MIR. A bit slower than the GeForce 430, but also costs less. This is a DX10 card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The ATI HD 5550 is basically equal to the older HD 4650. However it costs more $50 after a $15 MIR. It is a DX11 card and consumes less power than the HD 4650. Realistically speaking, this is a weak DX11 card since DX11 effects requires some horse power.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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If you don't want to deal with a mail-in rebate to bring the price below $50, then...

ATI HD 4650 for $50.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


ATI HD 5450 for $40 (but it also has a $10 MIR if you wish to mail it in). This is a very weak card for gaming. It has DX11 and very low power consumption.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Lastly, if you want something from nVidia, the GT 220 for $50 which is probably equal or a little better than the HD 5450. This is a DX10 video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 12:32:38 AM

If it is a Dell the HD4830 should be ok on a 300w but outside of that probably not. The HD4650 would be alright though.
If you can scrape together a few more dollars the HD5670 would also be a good choice on a 300w power supply. It is similar in performance to the HD4830 but more power efficient and DX11 compatible. It costs about $80 but this one does have a $15 mail in rebate if that works for you;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 15, 2010 1:54:07 AM

That's a pretty comprehensive gathering you've got there, thanks for doing the research for me. And thanks jyjjy for those quick replies. I'm almost done deciding...
One little question though, I have a slimline computer and is all i need a "low profile bracket" OR does the card have to be "low profile ready" for me to use one.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 2:16:07 AM

You need an actual low profile card as a normal one will not fit. Some just come with the full bracket attached and you'll have to swap it with the smaller one that comes with the card.
Both of the cards I linked are full size so you'll have to get something else. Unfortunately I'm not seeing any DDR3 HD4650s that are low profile. So you'll need to go with a DDR2 card or spend more on an HD5670 or HD5570;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 2:52:57 AM

The HD5570 I linked is both slightly better and significantly cheaper than the GT 430 you are looking at.
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December 15, 2010 3:01:47 AM

The 5570 you linked asks for 400W or greater
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December 15, 2010 3:22:38 AM

About those low profile cards...
Can i choose which input to disconnect,
for instance if i choose to use to use VGA over the DVI, could i disconnect the DVI and leave HDMI and VGA/D-sub in place ?
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December 15, 2010 3:53:03 AM

Although,
I've been reading reviews on the Geforce GT 430 and it always gets compared to the Radeon HD 5670.

SORRY if i'm asking too much!

But is the Radeon HD 5670 the best i can get for 87 bucks. It is over my budget, which is why i was drawn towards the GT 430.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 4:02:42 AM

The manufacturers suggested power supply can be safely ignored and rarely reflects reality. The HD5570 actually uses less power than the GT 430 but in general a 300w power supply can handle any card that doesn't have an external power connector.
Anyway, yes, the HD5670 would be your best choice if you can afford it. It is notably more powerful than the GT 430 or the HD5570 and you aren't going to do better without upgrading the power supply really. If it is beyond what you can spend then the HD5570 is both better and cheaper than the GT 430 like I said before.
Here is a chart with a bit more fine performance ratings for the cards you are looking at;
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 4:13:46 AM

ostrich2 said:
About those low profile cards...
Can i choose which input to disconnect,
for instance if i choose to use to use VGA over the DVI, could i disconnect the DVI and leave HDMI and VGA/D-sub in place ?

Nah, they all have a specific port that is the one that won't be accessible when used in a low profile system and on most cards it is going to be the VGA port these days. You have two options if you want to use the VGA port. You can take off the slot cover on the back of the computer for the slot either above or below the card and connect it through there. Not pretty but it will work. Alternately a DVI to VGA adapter will cost you I think $3 or so at a Radio Shack or similar store.
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December 15, 2010 4:45:13 AM

Alright thanks man, I think i'll cough up the extra 26 bucks.
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December 15, 2010 5:31:15 AM

I don't think a 1GB low profile version exists, does it ?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 7:41:48 AM

None of the cards we have been discussing are powerful enough to really utilize more than 512mb of ram effectively. Cards of this caliber with 1gb of ram are mostly a marketing gimmick so don't worry about that.
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December 15, 2010 10:02:07 AM

lol,you want a gaming gpu in 50bucks,are you kidding me?answer is simply no.however try to find a hd 4670 512mb ddr3 used one under $50,new 1gb version costs 64bucks.and i hope 512mb costs less than 50 bucks,it will be your best bang for bucks
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December 15, 2010 3:56:28 PM

Mrjericho1991
There isn't a low profile version of that card on newegg.

jyjjy
Damn, on AMD's website, the 5670 card calls for a 400 watts or greater power supply, but the reviews on newegg have people saying that they got it running under 300W. I probally shouldn't try it, huh ?

I'm stuck with the GT 430 I guess.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 7:00:21 PM

I already told you about the power supply situation, the HD5670 would be fine. You always seem to go back to the GT 430. If you really want it for some reason get it I guess but it's not very good and it's overpriced.
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December 15, 2010 7:33:09 PM

Oh wow I forgot I read that or that it applied to my situation, sorry.
It didn't say in the details tab that it didn't need external power.

I'll be getting that then, cool beans man.

For future reference, when should I trust the system requirements for the power supply?
I wouldn't want to burn anything out.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 15, 2010 9:11:04 PM

Well the suggested requirements are basically made up. All the cards we are discussing don't have an external power connector which means they get their power exclusively through the PCIE slot. The PCIE slot is only specified to deliver 75w of power so all of these cards use less than that. Specifically for the HD5670 it maxes out around 60w. If it uses 60w and cannot even theoretically draw more than 75w where does the 400w number come from? Nowhere. Basically they assume you have a power hungry high end system and a very low quality power supply whose rated wattage is basically a lie(sadly this is pretty frequent.) This is how the HD5570 can use less power than the GT 430 but have a suggested requirement 100w higher; both numbers are total fabrications essentially. If the rated wattage on PSUs was very strictly accurate most systems + an HD5670 could run on a 200-250w PSU. So unless your 300w is absolutely terrible you should run the HD5670 with no problems.
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