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Apple iPhone 4S, Part 1: More Horsepower, Better Hardware

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October 15, 2011 10:15:40 PM

On the CPU spec chart, iPhone 4S is mislabeled as iPad 2
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October 15, 2011 10:18:53 PM

Its a nice phone.
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October 15, 2011 10:22:43 PM

maddogjtOn the CPU spec chart, iPhone 4S is mislabeled as iPad 2


Thanks for catching that. Fixed!

Cheers,
Andrew Ku
TomsHardware.com
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October 15, 2011 10:23:49 PM

...that's what you'll get with an SGX543 MP2. Imagine the performance of the PS Vita with an MP4 and twice the Cortex9 cores.
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October 15, 2011 11:47:07 PM

My only question is why is it only being compared to competition in the form of tablets? Why is there no Droid Bionic or the Galaxy SII?

Are we to think the iPhone 4s is equal to a tablet? Especially considering the Bionic has a faster dual core (1GHz Core), more RAM (1GB), Android 2.3.4 (Gingerbread) and is a phone, like the iPhone.

Honestly this review is lacking since it doesn't compare actual phones from other companies (be it Android or WP7) and instead compares it to tablets.
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October 16, 2011 12:08:11 AM

Why do people think the iPhone 4S is revolutionary or just amazing? The Galaxy S2 is thinner, has a better CPU, and has a much larger screen. To me the 4S is a huge rip-off. iOS5 has a few things they've stolen of Android that people think are "new".
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October 16, 2011 12:22:04 AM

aznshinobiWhy do people think the iPhone 4S is revolutionary or just amazing? The Galaxy S2 is thinner, has a better CPU, and has a much larger screen. To me the 4S is a huge rip-off. iOS5 has a few things they've stolen of Android that people think are "new".


I don't know about you but I also think it is amazing that a year later any iPhone can hold its value much better then its competing Android counterpart. When I purchased my Nexus S it wasn't to bad, but a couple months later and a huge chunk of the value was lost. Whether you like it or not the iPhone can hold its value due to the large demand.

The GSII some would say is not revolutionary as well compared to the GSI which is the same approach it seems that the iPhone took from the 4 to the 4S. Even though the GSII has amazing hardware, the software still crashes quite often. You would think that with all the power under the hood that it would work more smoothly but it does not. My Nexus S with the most up to date Android software is still buggy at the most annoying times. If I weren't with T-Mobile I would have probably gotten the 4S. Hopefully the Nexus Prime will come to T-Mobile as well and ICS will have fixed even more bugs and work on a seemless and fluid user experience without crashing or having to send an error report.
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October 16, 2011 1:05:14 AM

jimmysmitty said:
My only question is why is it only being compared to competition in the form of tablets? Why is there no Droid Bionic or the Galaxy SII?

Are we to think the iPhone 4s is equal to a tablet? Especially considering the Bionic has a faster dual core (1GHz Core), more RAM (1GB), Android 2.3.4 (Gingerbread) and is a phone, like the iPhone.

Honestly this review is lacking since it doesn't compare actual phones from other companies (be it Android or WP7) and instead compares it to tablets.


Agreed. Excellent point. We'll add other smartphone as reference points.

Cheers,
Andrew Ku
TomsHardware.com
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October 16, 2011 1:11:17 AM

aznshinobiWhy do people think the iPhone 4S is revolutionary or just amazing? The Galaxy S2 is thinner, has a better CPU, and has a much larger screen. To me the 4S is a huge rip-off. iOS5 has a few things they've stolen of Android that people think are "new".

I have yet to find someone how thinks the 4S is revolutionary. Innovative, yes, but not revolutionary. And people think iOS5 has new features which Android had simply because people are more aware of the iPhone rather than Android phones. Living in NY, there are a lot of busy routes. One such route which is commonly used to get to Manhattan has a huge billboard advertising the iPhone. Remember, these routes are full of busy people getting to work and so on. The iPhone is going to look appealing to such people. Why? Because they make of majority of the market for smartphones.
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October 16, 2011 1:42:58 AM

acku said:
Agreed. Excellent point. We'll add other smartphone as reference points.

Cheers,
Andrew Ku
TomsHardware.com


I just happen to have gone from a LG Ally to a Droid Bionic (holy crap major difference.

I can give you my sores but I am a bit afraid they might be off since Verizon tend to load the most crap they can.

Overall its not too bad, its got a PowerVR SGX 540.
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October 16, 2011 2:21:24 AM

This comparison is a fraud.
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Anonymous
October 16, 2011 2:45:48 AM

I would point out that the hardware is not the whole story. From day 1, it's the combination of hardware, iOS, software and the whole Apple ecosystem. Love it or hate it, it works to make for a more complete experience.

I'm not a zealot or apologist, just pointing out most consumers....not nerds like us....just dig the warm and fuzzy of a phone that works and lets them play Angry Birds.
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October 16, 2011 2:56:28 AM

Ernst56....just dig the warm and fuzzy of a phone that works and lets them play Angry Birds.


You can't play angry birds on any previous smartphone. The 3GS or iPhone 4 are not up to snuff on that one.

This point alone makes me come to the conclusion... upgrading today is pointless. More so when even with a new contract you still need to burn a few Benjamin.
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October 16, 2011 3:15:24 AM

I thought that the 4S was only 100 MHz faster, but this may make it worth the upgrade. Now I'm gonna have to take back a lot of my bashing! Of course, my friend said that 100MHz was going to be noticeable and he'd buy it. (Still would never buy Apple, though, but I do enjoy the objective reviews. Thanks Toms!)
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October 16, 2011 3:15:40 AM

sinfulpotatoYou can't play angry birds on any previous smartphone. The 3GS or iPhone 4 are not up to snuff on that one

I play angry birds on my iPhone 3g, and aside from some jitters after loading a map for like 5 secs, it works smoothly after that.

On a different note, I bet the save a bunch of money by using the same body style as the iPhone 4. Not really sure why you need a new body every year anyways, if it ain't broke why fix it?

jimmysmittyAre we to think the iPhone 4s is equal to a tablet?

Well, it has the same processor as a tablet, so in that matter it is equal to a tablet. But totally agree with comparisons to phones, just had to make the point.
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October 16, 2011 3:21:50 AM

I would love to see the Android 4.0 phones compared to the iPhone 4S. Can't wait. First up is the DROID NEXUS PRIME, I believe. It should've already been out, but I think it was delayed in respect to Steve Jobs' passing.
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October 16, 2011 4:36:09 AM

battery life?
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Anonymous
October 16, 2011 6:56:05 AM

Yeap well 4s is a flop just hope the iphone 5 offers something more and better then the nexus prime phone that comes with 1.5 dual cpu HD screen etc. Apple really needs that new thing to make it stand above the crowd.
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October 16, 2011 7:10:20 AM

so toms is doing a 2 part on this and not Bulldozer?
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October 16, 2011 8:23:09 AM

aznshinobi said:
Why do people think the iPhone 4S is revolutionary or just amazing? The Galaxy S2 is thinner, has a better CPU, and has a much larger screen. To me the 4S is a huge rip-off. iOS5 has a few things they've stolen of Android that people think are "new".

S2 may have a better CPU on paper but it's slower than 4S in benchmarks.
Also,screen size is something personal IMO.For me anything up to 4.0" is perfect,also 4S has a better screen resolution.
As for features,well I definitely agree that the notification center looks awfully similar to Android but aside from that,what features were copied ?

Overall,4S is a decent phone IMO,but I really wanted to see a re-design too.
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October 16, 2011 9:01:21 AM

tramit Even though the GSII has amazing hardware, the software still crashes quite often.


I stopped reading right there. Can you site what software crashes, or are you just pulling things out of your ass?
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October 16, 2011 11:08:22 AM

man oh man, I woke up this morning, sat down with my normal cup of coffee, sat down in my nice recliner and opened Tomshardware.com and when I seen the title "Apple4S" I about spilled my coffee. First thought was "oh boy, shit gunna hit the fan now!" aaand it did lol. To be honest I didn't read the article at all. I like most of Toms readers could give 2 shits about Apple products.

As far as the guy who said "I don't know about you but I also think it is amazing that a year later any iPhone can hold its value much better then its competing Android counterpart. When I purchased my Nexus S it wasn't to bad, but a couple months later and a huge chunk of the value was lost. Whether you like it or not the iPhone can hold its value due to the large demand. " DUHHH when you pay out the friggin ass for something do you really want to sell it at such a huge loss? So like I pay 800 bucks for a iPhone, have it 3 days, despise it and try to sell it for as much as I can to recoup the extreme cost of such a piece of crap. And since most Apple users are ignorant, they will be happy to pay almost new price for a used hunk of crap. hence they "reatain value"
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October 16, 2011 11:25:08 AM

This should be titled:
Apple iPhone 4S, Part 1: More Horsepower, Better Hardware Than Predecessors

tacoslaveso toms is doing a 2 part on this and not Bulldozer?

When A in AMD means Apple.
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October 16, 2011 2:06:57 PM

"Leaving competition in the dust"? Where's HTC Sensation? Where are the SGS's? Lame comparison.
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October 16, 2011 2:39:43 PM

AbdullahGI have yet to find someone how thinks the 4S is revolutionary. Innovative, yes, but not revolutionary. And people think iOS5 has new features which Android had simply because people are more aware of the iPhone rather than Android phones. Living in NY, there are a lot of busy routes. One such route which is commonly used to get to Manhattan has a huge billboard advertising the iPhone. Remember, these routes are full of busy people getting to work and so on. The iPhone is going to look appealing to such people. Why? Because they make of majority of the market for smartphones.


Android is, by far, the market leader for smartphones.
http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Mobility-Matters/Android-m...

Think it passed the ios over a year ago! And people (mostly Apple fanboys) still think that they lead the market?



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October 16, 2011 3:15:37 PM

Of course Android is the market leader. There's lots and lots of different Android phone makers. ...only one Apple making iPhones. I just don't see why its so important to people. Apple seems to be doing well and the Android fans seem happy with their "superior" handsets.
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October 16, 2011 3:39:16 PM

halcyon said:
Of course Android is the market leader. There's lots and lots of different Android phone makers. ...only one Apple making iPhones. I just don't see why its so important to people. Apple seems to be doing well and the Android fans seem happy with their superior handsets.


Fixed.
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Anonymous
October 16, 2011 4:31:53 PM

My iphone 4 doesent have stereo speakers. Does this one has it?
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October 16, 2011 4:50:29 PM

Regarding the article .... one question .... does it make phone calls ? It is after all a phone. Thought ya mighta covered that in "Part 1".

As far as Apple's success, it falls to two things....1) users rarely need TS, everything just "works" and 2) when they need it, what they get is incomparable. Compare that w/ the recent article on LG's Android phone where the user had to wipe his contacts, apps, pictures and everything else .... then use his phone for three days so LG could confirm it was something on his phone causing the problem before would agree to address his issue.
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October 16, 2011 4:56:05 PM

I come to Tom's Hardware to read about PCs and their components; stuff you can buy, build, and tweak yourself, peacemeal; and all kinds of related comparisons, news, and reviews. I enjoy reading and contributing to the forums. I don't come here to read about phones. Yes, I could have skipped this entirely; the point is that this is not the sort of LEAD story I expect on this site. Just my opinion, although I believe it is shared. Thanks for listening.
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Anonymous
October 16, 2011 5:01:08 PM

Wow! Apple they have effective marketing strat. Iphone fever won't last long people catching up, BS! advertising. When is going to end Iphone100. I love apple products. I feel getting rip off every year. LOL!
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October 16, 2011 5:23:32 PM

Onus said:
I come to Tom's Hardware to read about PCs and their components; stuff you can buy, build, and tweak yourself, peacemeal; and all kinds of related comparisons, news, and reviews. I enjoy reading and contributing to the forums. I don't come here to read about phones. Yes, I could have skipped this entirely; the point is that this is not the sort of LEAD story I expect on this site. Just my opinion, although I believe it is shared. Thanks for listening.


Oh, it IS shared, trust me.
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October 16, 2011 5:40:22 PM

Compare the iPhone using the same bench marks to the Galaxy S ll and we will see really how good the iPhone 4s is with its meager 512 megs or ram. Again this whole thing is a joke.
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October 16, 2011 6:43:11 PM

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so toms is doing a 2 part on this and not Bulldozer?

I guess iPhone 4s is a real important contribution to technology. LOL ;-)

iCrap just began using dual core processors in their smart phones...Jeez
what an innovative idea only a genius could have thought of that. Soon they will be inventing the use of 1 gig of ram in smart phones, not to mention larger screens. You cant make this up!!!
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Anonymous
October 16, 2011 7:10:17 PM

Some one try to find out, what kind of DSP processor it has. It sounds like powerhouse, but noone seems to care, as its not so much graphics related.
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October 16, 2011 7:15:16 PM

It doesn't matter how good or bad the iPhone is for the majority of THG's forum members. The fact that its made by Apple makes it a POS for many. Such objectivity.
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October 16, 2011 7:19:28 PM

Heres something for all the apple haters! benchmarks with the latest androids!
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October 16, 2011 7:23:32 PM

flip_xhttp://www.androidpolice.com/2011/ [...] -at-least/

"This can't be right...the testing is rigged...it has to be. Surely, if they'd don't it correctly the iPhones would be in last place."

LOL.
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October 16, 2011 7:29:06 PM

Apple is Marketing over what matters
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October 16, 2011 7:50:17 PM

i hate apple (have iphone4) ONLY due to their genius marketing strategy of releasing basically updates as NEW phones. this isn't revolutionary neither were the last (insert random high value here) iPhone updates they have released. Such a brilliant scam they are running there in apple.
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October 16, 2011 8:03:52 PM

tacoslaveso toms is doing a 2 part on this and not Bulldozer?


I dedicated one week, 12,000 words, and 24 pages to Bulldozer. Our 990FX motherboard round-up is coming up, and we'll have at least one additional story on the architecture's efficiency. Try not to too twisted over one day spent with the iPhone ;-)
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October 16, 2011 8:05:29 PM

Device Unknownman oh man, I woke up this morning, sat down with my normal cup of coffee, sat down in my nice recliner and opened Tomshardware.com and when I seen the title "Apple4S" I about spilled my coffee. First thought was "oh boy, shit gunna hit the fan now!" aaand it did lol. To be honest I didn't read the article at all. I like most of Toms readers could give 2 shits about Apple products.As far as the guy who said "I don't know about you but I also think it is amazing that a year later any iPhone can hold its value much better then its competing Android counterpart. When I purchased my Nexus S it wasn't to bad, but a couple months later and a huge chunk of the value was lost. Whether you like it or not the iPhone can hold its value due to the large demand. " DUHHH when you pay out the friggin ass for something do you really want to sell it at such a huge loss? So like I pay 800 bucks for a iPhone, have it 3 days, despise it and try to sell it for as much as I can to recoup the extreme cost of such a piece of crap. And since most Apple users are ignorant, they will be happy to pay almost new price for a used hunk of crap. hence they "reatain value"


This is an extra bit of weekend content that doesn't affect our normal operations. The usual PC-oriented content resumes tonight at 9 PM PST. :) 
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October 16, 2011 8:12:20 PM

halcyon said:
It doesn't matter how good or bad the iPhone is for the majority of THG's forum members. The fact that its made by Apple makes it a POS for many. Such objectivity.


Also the fact that it still has the same enraging design, no HDMI, no USB-on-the-Go... if I buy an expensive toy, I want it to have ALL the bells and whistles available, not just some.

Well, and yes, if there's something that's not made by crApple and has the same functionality, I'd go for that rather than Apple.
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October 16, 2011 8:13:46 PM

cangelini said:
This is an extra bit of weekend content that doesn't affect our normal operations. The usual PC-oriented content resumes tonight at 9 PM PST. :) 


Glad to hear it, but there's really too much phone/console/tablet/unrelated stuff on this website lately; and the excuse of "It's on Tom's Guide" doesn't work anymore - this is Tom's Hardware ;) 
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October 16, 2011 8:30:54 PM

And have we missed a beat on PC tech? ;-)
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October 16, 2011 9:17:41 PM

cangelini said:
And have we missed a beat on PC tech? ;-)


Sure. Take a look at this thread.

While I'm really happy with the PC hardware articles lately (BD article was great, SSD article arrived exactly when I wanted to read one, etc.), there's still a ton of article suggestions that everybody will welcome much more than the same old iPhone vs Android holywar-starters. LCD roundup? Cases roundup? Server hardware roundup, and written in such a manner that a gamer can learn something from it? :) 

So, you see, Tom's hasn't really missed anything... but it's the equivalent of me building a computer for the client and "not missing anything": the machine boots, works fine, everything is running, client is happy. However, the cables are a mess, the components I chose were not the best for money... get the analogy? :)  I think that every PC enthusiast here will rejoice if the website's resources will be allocated more towards the in-depth PC hardware comparison.

I understand that - for some incomprehensible reason - Tom's needs these tablet/phone/etc. articles, but could you at least kick them ALL out to Tom's Guide and add a little option in every user's profile: "Display Tom's Guide News on the main page news feed - Yes/No"? That way, everyone who truly doesn't want to hear about anything besides PC hardware can be happy, and whoever wants to read about cell phones and consoles can keep doing so.

Oh yeah! :sol: 
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October 16, 2011 9:45:56 PM

I have an LCD story in the system ready to go, we have a case round-up that'll be live in a couple of weeks, and the rest of the beats are firing on all cylinders :) 

Here's the thing: Guide tackles the consumer angle. Rachel and her team aren't as concerned with benchmarks, display uniformity, Wi-Fi performance, and so on; they write about the user experience. So, we decided to add more portable device coverage to the existing content we produce, with all of the Hardware-style testing typical of our other stories.

Again, normally on the weekend, the site would be idle as we all recover from one hell of a Bulldozer-filled week. Yesterday's iPhone piece was "bonus." It really shouldn't bother anyone that much ;-)
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